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i am a christian and a victim of sexual abuse from women as well as men. and my struggle in the area of sexuality has been same sex attraction. i agree with what the bible says about it. inside its like i know the truth but my emotions and wires are all mixed up. i hear a lot of denominations changing their stance on this sin and wonder what is going on because how could it be right now and have been wrong like twenty years ago.
i wish i had a lot of answers on that. i ve read a lot of things on this thread and i am glad that truth is something held high here.
i just feel alone in my struggle because sometimes i've been hurt by christians who think i'm stupid for not getting it, like they say i'm a girl so enough said like i dont know that.
i ve just come to these forums and i really need to know how to deal with this.
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I know exactly how you feel, sweetie.. and it is a very hard place to be. I don't have any answers, really, except trusting God and trying to walk in obedience.
If you need someone to talk to, please PM me any time... sometimes just sharing helps.
Praying for you,
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I can only echo Criada here, and also add that from my personal experience that a life in the flesh, following the lusts, is not a life to be preferred above a life in the Spirit. Living close to God might sometimes feel like eating dry bread, and you see all those others that feast on meat and wine, but still if you would try the same I'm pretty sure you would miss the dry bread. And I am also sure that those that follow Him will find a life after death that have blessings that are beyond anything this life can ever offer.

Prayed for you sister. God bless.
 
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thanks Criada, but I have to have so many posts to PM you, but I'm getting there. I know that i'm glad that this forum is here and that i can write a little about what is happening in my life. i wonder if they have a place to journal? anyway i've felt like being sexually abused by women, might have made me like i am, but i know that choices are like in there too. i dont want to do the blame thing. i heard someone mention the 'identity', thing, i know my identity is/was wrapped up in being gay but i think my true identity is in christ. knowing the truth is half the battle or maybe not, it might be a matter of opinion. but i dont know if knowing the truth is half the battle or 1/4 of it. who knows. i know that i hear what the truth is, my insides look like spaghetti though, with all these live wires and stuff that need to be straightened out. i have so many isses and some many different posts on here for different issues its not funny. i find that its hard to really deal with one when you are dealing with so many at the same time. i know that in the past, i have had to repent just recently for having unforgiveness against the church and being angry for their responses to me and my struggle yet taking on non christians offenses against the church in the way this issue has been handled. so i had to go to God for that. and its all a part of my own healing and truth encounter.

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Satan would like nothing more than to make you believe that you can live a sexually immoral life style and be right with God. The moral standard for human sexuality is set early in Bible and states that any sex outside of a sexual relations between a man and a woman within the sanctuary of marriage is immoral. You might consider removing yourself from any ministry that would try to convince you over wise because that is sure sign that Satan has his hands in that ministry. Satan deceptions are powerful and are designed to see you in hell.
 
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Dear Struggler,
I will be praying for you as well. You know, you've been hurt so much by so many people... Their selfishness and their own torment has touched your life in a way that few if any could understand or comprehend. But I am assured that the Lord identifies with you... He really knows your deepest woundings, and the fact that you are searching for help, searching to understand, searching to find healing at CF (and in other ways, I imagine), is a good indication that you WILL find help, you WILL find healing, you WILL come to a place of understanding yourself, and most of all, you WILL be used by the Lord to bring healing to so many others who will suffer their own abuse stories.

I think if you examine same sex brokenness, you already know, by your own conscience, that something isn't right about it. When you are in that situation and practice it, your conscience issues a warning to you that you've crossed a line, that you need to go back across that line to be safe.

Did you know that the Bible talks about conscience quite extensively? Over 25 times in the New Testament. If you're not a believer in Christ, it is a bit more difficult, but even nonbelievers will have a sense when they do something that is "wrong."

GOD loves us, but He will not force His love upon us, nor force us to obey Him. He is a gentleman who only comes when He is invited. The fact is, we can invite Him to leave our lives, to open the door, see Him depart, and shut the door loud as He goes out. And this is described in Romans 1 & 2 when the apostle Paul writes that God can give people over to the mindset that they want to have.... If you want to be a homosexual, or an adulterer, or a fornicator, or a drunk, God will allow you to go into those things, to practice them, to even enjoy such a lifestyle. But this is in itself a deception that originates from our own flesh, and the enemy of God, the unseen forces that seek to enslave and destroy us. The deception says you are all right, that you can do it because it "feels right," because you were "born that way," because you are a victim of abuse, etc. But it is still deception that leads to great suffering and misery, and eventually, eternal separation from Him and all that is good.

Read Romans 1 & 2 for yourself. There are other passages, but the point of it is that we can either couple ourselves with Him, or try to walk life's journey without Him. We are the ones who have been designated the power to choose. We have been given a limited power to choose, but that choice is huge. It is important to choose wisely what we will do, for it will lead to our eternal destiny.

You may be tempted till you die regarding same sex brokenness. But that does not mean you must comply with those temptations. You must obey the Lord first and foremost. You may always be tempted, but temptation is not sin. As long as you reject temptation's advances, you will remain close to the Lord.

When you are tempted, often it is because you feel a need to feel something...like to feel loved, to shake off that numbness of life, or just plain boredom that we suffer. Whatever the core reasons, we need to learn to run to the Father in Heaven... He is Abba to you, sweet sister. He will take you into His arms, by the Spirit, and release His love upon you. He is quick to forgive you, but never take advantage of His generosity or His grace. Run to Him when you feel wounded, empty, hurt. Run to Him even more when you awaken from a nightmare or when the past's painful memories paralyze you. Run to Him... His throne is a throne of grace...

I'm praying for you... I care about your life, even though I don't know you. As I wrote this, as I read your question, I felt a burden for you... Thus my response. If I feel this way toward you whom I've never met, never seen, how much more must the LORD love you and care for you. Perhaps He is using my words to reach to you..to tell you that YOU ARE SPECIAL, that your past is the past...that you CAN overcome, to go forward, to never look back, to use the pain and works of darkness so that they glorify your God, so that they help others who have also been violated. Our Lord died upon the Cross... He understood the utter hellish loneliness upon that tree... Remember, He became the curse. He became sin for us...

And one more thing... You must forgive those who hurt you. This may seem impossible. And it is, without God's supernatural power working in you. You must see those people as Christ sees them. Don't worry...God will judge them thoroughly. But pray that God's mercy and grace would reach them... Release them (and yourself) of any unforgiveness, hatred, or bitterness. This is a big part of being able to move forward and allow the past to be less impacting in the present and future of your life.

I am, in the LORD, your friend,
Sean
 
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i know that i hear what the truth is, my insides look like spaghetti though, with all these live wires and stuff that need to be straightened out. i have so many isses and some many different posts on here for different issues its not funny. i find that its hard to really deal with one when you are dealing with so many at the same time.

The various things you find yourself struggling and battling with may be numerous, but in all of them, the answer truly is simply one: running to the LORD in all of them. In other words, keeping your eyes on the Lord, and not removing them. Aim to fix your relationship vertically, and the horizontal will become easier to manage and less painful. We all must do this, to make the Lord Most High our strong Tower, a refuge to hide within. We do this in faith, and we do this trusting the Holy Spirit to reveal more and more of the LORD in our pursuit of Him. You really can escape the gravity of the things that want to pull you down and choke the very life out of you... You can! :) And there is always hope when we run to Him.

If I were you, I would live in Him...abide there. Isn't that what the Scriptures tell us to do, to abide in Him as He abides in us? We were never meant to journey thorugh life without Him abiding in us...

Is He welcome in your life, in you? Make that your highest priority, and the spaghetti insides will start to be made right again... There will come healing, because that is exactly what the King has come to do, to heal brokenhearts. Are you broken hearted? Are you twisted up inside from so much pain and abuse? You are a candidate for His healing touch.

You know, He's like a spiritual heart surgeon. He lays us down, then the scalpel of His Word begins to bring healing to us... Read His Word, and it will help you in ways that escape human language. He'll clear out spiritual arteries so you are alive with Him. But we have to surrender to Him first.

I'm praying for you along with others.

~Sean
 
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although i do struggle i havent acted on my struggle for years. recently last month, god had me wash the feet of a couple i had sinned against years ago. and i knew for a fact that god wanted me to minister to them and ask forgiveness but i didnt want to. i fought it until I said yes to god in obedience. the experience more so in what was going on in my heart was so strong. it was the repentance and godly sorrow i felt after a long number or years.

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thanks Sean for your words. i had a brother named Sean who got adopted when i was younger. my parents got us from the adoption agency so he went back and got adopted.
I hear what you are saying Sean. I know my only hope is in the Lord. The first time these things happened to me I was very young, I didnt understand myself what was happening in me. On top of that, my family was teasing me about it. I always felt like I was being hounded like from some invisible spirit. Then, I find my birth family, well, some of them and find out that two of my sisters were into that lifestyle and then just recently finding out about how my birth family is generations into the occult and incest and all that. that finding out that i am the result of a rape. so yes my only hope is in Christ. when does christ heal our hearts?
 
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Then, I find my birth family, well, some of them and find out that two of my sisters were into that lifestyle and then just recently finding out about how my birth family is generations into the occult and incest and all that. that finding out that i am the result of a rape. so yes my only hope is in Christ. when does christ heal our hearts?

When will He heal your heart? He'll heal your heart when you begin to give away the love He has given you. In reaching out, He will reach in! :) I felt a strong confirmation of that last sentence as I typed it by the Holy Spirit... Like the foot washing, reach out to help other who have been hurt. That's how healing will begin to come. You may never forget what happened to you, but it can always be judo-moved into glorifying the Lord, of being used for good, and for blessing. Imagine that: the enemy tries to destroy your life, to push you down, yet it will be used to bring GOOD into others' lives.

Being the result of rape does not mean that God did not plan for you. Many people who experience that violence in their lives go on to have the child BECAUSE the child is the beauty in the midst of the evil act. God saw you before the world began. I'm quite sure I was conceived before my mom married...so though it wasn't a rape, it was fornication.

Anyway, if I can help any more, feel free to write me.

Be blessed, sweet sister of God!
~Sean
 
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you know Sean, I always thought I couldnt help anyone or I didnt have anything to say to people who have been hurt. I didnt think I was qualified to do so, but since I've been on this forum, I've asked God to help me to say something in my replies that will help someone else. when i was struggling the most, I felt that my life had no credibility so I stopped talking to others about christ or anything else. i felt i was so bad that i could never speak for christ at all.
but i do accept what you said about helping those who have been hurt, i have wanted to do just that. actually there was an opportunity at my church for this ministry for people to help children who have been abused, but at the time, i was not in the place i am now. i feel that my opportunity has passed. anyway i ve felt that my struggle had disqualified me from helping others.

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God does not see any sin as worse than any other. I say that because sometimes a particular sin spends time in the limelight and anyone who practices or is tempted by that sin is put in the hotseat.

We all struggle with areas in our life that do not honor God. There are seasons in life that are easier than others, but we all have had a time that God has had to deal with us.

Remember this: God created you. He loves you. He has plans for you. He has never forsaken you. When you were hurt, He was hurt too. He wants to heal and comfort your broken heart. He knows what you need. Trust Him.

I was abused as a child too. I have struggled in many areas. I'm 51 years old now and just realizing how deep and precious God's love is. It is humbling to realize that there really is nothing we can do to make God love us more and nothing we can do to make Him love us less.

I am praying for you.
 
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I've been having these dreams about sexuality lately. I am not sure whether or not this means I am having a problem that I don't know about, but in the last three days I have had two. One thing that I asked the Lord was that He would show me something that I have not yet given up to him. I had other dreams in which I felt the direction the dream was taking, it involved another area of my life, but, now I feel that it has something to do with this struggle. Sometimes I think I don't really see what is underneath. I don't really deal completely with something like this struggle so I feel like its already taken care of, like if I am not attracted to someone than, well, I'm okay. But in my heart, there is still areas that are not under control of the Lord. I know this to be true, but even though I struggle with same sex attractions, I cannot see myself as my struggle. And so I know that the Lord has been speaking to me about going further and dealing with the underlying issues of this struggle, and listening to a bible teacher the other day, she mentioned that God wanted the 'pet sin' of ours. Its the sin we dont want to have to give up to him. What I am trying to say is, if I cannot give this totally to the Lord, give it up, then, I will never have victory over it, no matter if I am in a relationship or not. It's just one area of my life that the Lord doesnt have and that prevents me from growing totally in the Lord.'

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issues and issues.
i almost didnt make it back here or anywhere. a friend of mine mentioned to me the other day, what difference does it make to God if you have someone who loves you? i thought i had been talking to someone who viewed being gay as something against God. and then, that caused me to fall further in the opposite direction from where i wanted to go. i was already on faulty footing but then that put me over the cliff. and i have only one finger holding me.
i said to god, forget it, i wanted someone to love me and i was going to go out there and forget God to get what i wanted. i didnt realize the decision i thought i had made for him, wasnt a decision at all. i yelled at god, what do you want from me? what did he want? i didnt know. i wanted to give up so much and just get this struggle out of my mind and heart. i wanted the torment to end finally and i really thought just giving in to my own ungodlly decision would bring me some peace. at least it would stop the emptiness in my soul. it would stop me from trying to stop the desires and fantasizing that was going on in my heart. i did feel some relief from just saying to god, i give up and i didnt care what happened. i dont have the strength to keep up the stiff upper lip. i just cant do it anymore. if i fall, i hope i fall into his arms.
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so today is another day, and with what the lord has sustained me i am grateful for his help. its hard going it alone and trying to get support from just reading posts online. i had wanted to start the setting captives free course on homosexuality but didnt yet. i think sexuality is a deep issue and i think it points to more than just the sex aspect. i think its tied to who we really are, and our deep issues about ourselves and God. some how i think thats right. i dont know, maybe i'm thinking too much. i dont think its always so easy to just cast out spirits and stuff from people who struggle. but its a day to day walk which is harder to die to yourself and ungodly desires.
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