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Originally posted by LewisWildermuth
Leviticus and I belive it is Philimon is used to support salvery let me repeat slavery.
How many times have you seen Jesus painted with black hair or even looking halfway middle eastern? That in itself can be concidered bigotry.
As strange as it may sound most caucasians picture Jesus as being caucasian.
About that site you just used... Funny, it makes my point about the bible being misused for evil purposes and bigotry for me...
And notice how they conveinently forgot about Jesus being Jewish but concidered him "Aryan".
Originally posted by LewisWildermuth
What? Are you saying that I said that everyone believed the bible promotes slavery? Or are you saying that before Abe Lincolin there were no christian slaves?
I would like to know where exactly I said that everone belived in biblical slavery.
Originally posted by alexgb00
Nick, the darwinian theory is the scientific proof for our thesis.(do you get the hidden joke?)
Originally posted by LewisWildermuth
So the Bible has never been missused (sic) to support slavery or bigotry or any other evil thing?
Originally posted by alexgb00
Nick, get it? People today are dumber, and darwin is proof?
Originally posted by LewisWildermuth
Is the misuse of the scientific ideas behind biology physics and evolution proof that the ideas themselves are bad?
Originally posted by npetreley
Of course not. Funny you should ask that, though. I don't ever recall seeing anyone make the claim that because science has been abused, science is immoral or should be abandoned and not studied.
But I see a LOT of evolutionists repeatedly cite the misuse of the Bible as evidence that believing the Bible is bad. Interesting double-standard.
But I see a LOT of evolutionists repeatedly cite the misuse of the Bible as evidence that believing the Bible is bad. Interesting double-standard.
1. The operative word is misused. You do have to misuse and torture the text of the Bible if you want to use it to promote racism or slavery.
When you dig up your Biblical references, be sure to compare them to Darwinian views ("higher races like the Caucasian would develop into more advance species while barbaric races like Negroes... would be eliminated." and "No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average Negro is the equal, still less the superior of the average white man.").
I don't ever recall seeing anyone make the claim that because science has been abused, science is immoral or should be abandoned and not studied.
Freodin, please visit this webpage: target=_blank>http://www.creationism.org/ackerman...WorldChap09.htm
It talks about a case where an 80-foot whale was buried in diatomacious earth, standing on end! If you know what diatoms are, doesn't it seem strange that this could've happened? In our world, if a sea animal dies, it settles to the floor and is picked apart quickly by different critters. Here is an example of a full skeleton preserved in <I>diatoms</I>. To cause this, there must've been something that kicked up so many diatoms and buried a whale standing up. Like... a flood, for instance?
<B>The Real Story: Just the Facts</B> Had anybody taken the time and trouble to check the facts, they would have found that the story by Russel (1976) took some liberty with the facts and lacked very important information. First, the skeleton was not found in a vertical position, but was lying at an angle 50 to 40 degrees from horizontal. Finally, although at this angle, the whale skeleton lay parallel to the bedding of strata which at one time was the sea floor on which the dead whale fell after its death. These facts were confirmed by inquiring with the people at the Los Angeles Museum of Natural History who excavated the whale. Although nothing had been published on the whale, Russel (1976) clearly identified the staff who excavated the skeleton and they could have been easily called at the Los Angeles Museum of Natural History in Los Angeles, California. The strata containing the whale consists of diatomites that accumulated within deep bays and basins that lay along the Pacific coastline during Miocene times. As a result of folding and tectonics associated with the formation of the Transverse Ranges, the strata containing the enclosed skeleton has been tilted into a less-than vertical position. These sediments lack any sedimentary structures that would indicate catastrophic deposition. Rather, the strata exhibit laminations indicative of slow accumulation on an anoxic bay bottom. Within the adjacent strata, several hardgrounds occurs. A hardground is a distinctive cemented layer of sedimentary rock that forms when the lack of sediments being deposited over a very long period of time on the sea bottom allows the surface sediments to become cemented (Isaac 1981, Garrison and Foellmi 1988). In fact, identical sediments are currently accumulating without the involvement of a Noachian-like flood within parts of the Gulf of California (Curray et al. 1992; Schrader et al. 1982). Furthermore, a partially buried, articulated whale skeleton slowly being covered by sedimentation in the deep ocean off the coast of California was observed by oceanographers diving in submersibles. It is an excellent modern analogue of how this particular whale fossil was created without the need of a Noachian Flood (Allison et al. 1990; Smith et al. 1989). The geology of these quarries is documented by publications of the California Division of Mines and Geology (Dibblee 1950, 1982) United States Geological Survey geological maps (Dibblee, 1988a, 1988b), graduate students at University of California, Los Angeles (Grivetti 1982), and field trip guidebooks (Isaacs 1981). The other whale skeletons which have been found in these quarries lie parallel to the bedding and owe their modern attitude to tectonics rather then some mythical catastrophe. The written documentation for the attitude of the whale skeletons is contained within field notes and locality records of the Los Angeles Museum of Natural History in Los Angeles, California.
Originally posted by LewisWildermuth
So the Bible has never been missused to support slavery or bigotry or any other evil thing? Okay... Well that is against all of the rest of history but you are intitled to believe the sky is pink too I guess.
And you love Physics and Biology except for all those pesky little parts that go against a litteral interpretaion of the Bible... That is fine too.
As far as I am concerned though the truth is more important than any literal interpretation of the Bible. I believe that the Bible is worth far more and holds far more truth than just the simple deffinition of it's words.
Originally posted by Freodin
Strange. I have seen quite a few people who claimed that science was responsible for moral decay, crime, pornography and all kinds of "immoral" acts.
Goes to show that stupidity is not connected with philosophy.
Originally posted by Jerry Smith
Oooh, humble.. looks like you have been indoctrinated by those evil chemicalists. You probably believe the chemicalist lie that water is made from hydrogen and oxygen. But did you know that hydrogen and oxygen make hydrogen peroxide? It's been proven in a lab! Yet the godless chemicalists still tell you that water is made of hydrogen and oxygen!!
Originally posted by alexgb00
Jerry, you must agree that evolution is a controversial topic. Biology isn't, chemistry isn't, physics isn't.
I, being a Christian, have never had a problem with astronomy, chemistry or physics -- i enjoy learning all three. They teach me about the basics of this world and how things are set up. There is nothing in either of the three that disagrees with God's Word.
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