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Stripping of the Anointing

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It seemed to have happened from recommitting a sin & from there it seemed like the glory cloud left as well as His anointing & presence. Literally felt like life itself was sucked out of me. It's an awful experience.

Are you baptized? That is, were you baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit? If so, then you have been sealed in Christ. You belong to Him. His seal is upon you, you have received the Holy Spirit, and you have God the Father as your Father.

Don't rely on things like "glory clouds", or things like feelings, sensations, or even your guilt. Trust in the Gospel of what God has done for you. Christ has died for you, He suffered, bled, and redeemed you from the pit of death, He has redeemed you and reconciled you to God, giving His Father to you, that you might be the child of God. Heir of God, joint-heir with Christ, with the Spirit of God's Son in you crying out 'Abba! Father!'.

Trust in God's work, He has accomplished it for you. Believe the good news!
You have the faithful and good promise, "That if we confess our sins then He is faithful to forgive us our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness", therefore do not enter with trepidation, but come before the Throne of Grace and confess your sins, daily. Confess that you are a sinner, and that you have nothing of your own to present to God, you are a beggar, with upturned hands, saying "Have mercy on me". Always believe in God's mercy. Always believe in the Christ who suffered and bled and died for you.

When the devil comes and throws your sins in your face, you tell that coward and snake this (paraphrasing/ripping off Martin Luther):

"Yes, I know that I am a sinner that deserves both death and hell, but what of it? For I know the One who has made satisfaction on my behalf and is my righteousness, His name is Jesus Christ the Son of God and He says "Where I am you shall be also"!" One little word shall fell him, he is a liar.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Are you baptized? That is, were you baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit? If so, then you have been sealed in Christ. You belong to Him. His seal is upon you, you have received the Holy Spirit, and you have God the Father as your Father.

Don't rely on things like "glory clouds", or things like feelings, sensations, or even your guilt. Trust in the Gospel of what God has done for you. Christ has died for you, He suffered, bled, and redeemed you from the pit of death, He has redeemed you and reconciled you to God, giving His Father to you, that you might be the child of God. Heir of God, joint-heir with Christ, with the Spirit of God's Son in you crying out 'Abba! Father!'.

Trust in God's work, He has accomplished it for you. Believe the good news!
You have the faithful and good promise, "That if we confess our sins then He is faithful to forgive us our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness", therefore do not enter with trepidation, but come before the Throne of Grace and confess your sins, daily. Confess that you are a sinner, and that you have nothing of your own to present to God, you are a beggar, with upturned hands, saying "Have mercy on me". Always believe in God's mercy. Always believe in the Christ who suffered and bled and died for you.

When the devil comes and throws your sins in your face, you tell that coward and snake this (paraphrasing/ripping off Martin Luther):

"Yes, I know that I am a sinner that deserves both death and hell, but what of it? For I know the One who has made satisfaction on my behalf and is my righteousness, His name is Jesus Christ the Son of God and He says "Where I am you shall be also"!" One little word shall fell him, he is a liar.

-CryptoLutheran


Hello, thank you for reaching out.
I believe I am dealing with Heb. 6:4
I've already received the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the rest of what Heb 6:4 mentions of what one in Christ may possess
 
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About the unforgivable sin:

The language and grammar of that part means "continually blaspheme the Holy Spirit". When you read it in modern versions it is translated to present tense. But you should understand that in the original greek language, which is what the new testament was written in, present tense verbs in greek can mean continually doing that action, and is what Jesus meant by blaspheme. Blasphemy in those parts then means continual blasphemy.

If you repent now, that means you didn't commit the unforgivable sin, because when you repent, you do not continually blaspheme.

The Holy Spirit showed me this and has confirmed this word to me through miracles,


Anthony, I havent been able to find repentance
I may be dealing with Heb. 6:4 :(
 
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Hello, thank you for reaching out.
I believe I am dealing with Heb. 6:4
I've already received the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the rest of what Heb 6:4 mentions of what one in Christ may possess

Hebrews 6:4 is a warning to those who would, in fear, abandon Christianity. The context here can partially be found in the very name of the work, it is the Epistle to the Hebrews, that is to say, it is a general letter addressing Jewish Christians. It has been conjectured that the background of the epistle is that the Roman authorities had began to harass and persecute Christians, since Christians were being specifically targeted then it may have been very tempting for many to abandon Christianity and return to their former pre-Christian life. In the case of Jewish Christians that would mean leaving Christianity and going back to Judaism.

So the author, in very potent terms, argues that if one were to deliberately apostate themselves, they are throwing away their salvation. There remains no "sacrifice for sins" for them, not because Christ's atoning work could in any way ever be nullified, but because if one rejects, refuses, denies, and throws away Christ and all He did, they are throwing away its benefits. They refuse forgiveness, and thus live in deliberate non-forgiveness.

However, Christianity has never taught that if someone becomes apostate that they cannot repent and be restored. This is clear enough in the rejection of the false doctrines of the Novatians. And more importantly, it is the lesson of the Good Shepherd and the Prodigal Son from the Lord Himself.

But deliberately rejecting our salvation and turning away (and note that this isn't an accident, or even just "deconversion", but is a very deliberate act of apostasy here) is a very serious thing. And should be treated with seriousness; but it should not be cause for alarm as though the Gospel has ceased to be the Gospel to us, as though God would ever leave or forsake us. He specifically says He will not leave nor forsake us.

-CryptoLUtheran
 
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Anthony, I havent been able to find repentance
I may be dealing with Heb. 6:4 :(

Hebrews 6:4 does not apply to you here.

I don't know what kind of church you are part of or how your church does repentance.

But in my tradition repentance is just humbly confessing to God, bearing grief of your sin; to understand that one has sinned and needs God's forgiveness. And his forgiveness is yours, freely, through the Gospel.

This is why I believe it is so very important that there be a rightful distinction and dichotomy made between the Law and the Gospel, and that this must be clearly taught and preached in the churches.

In my church every service includes what's known as the Penitential Rite, it's an element of the way Christians have worshiped since the the New Testament. It simply refers to that part of the worship where we as a congregation collectively confess our sin and guilt before God in what we call the General or Public Confession, here is an example:

"Most merciful God, we confess that we have sinned against you in thought, word, and deed, by what we have done, and by what we have left undone. We have not loved you with our whole heart; we have not loved our neighbors as ourselves. We are truly sorry and we humbly repent. For the sake of your Son Jesus Christ, have mercy on us and forgive us; that we may delight in your will, and walk in your ways, to the glory of your Name. Amen."

After this the pastor pronounces the word of Absolution, whereby as an ordained minister of God's Word he speaks in Christ's name and stead the words of God's forgiveness which are ours freely by God's grace,

It must be understood that this is not the pastor taking God's place, but is simply the pastor being a pastor to God's sheep, it is the pastor's responsibility to speak Christ's word, and His word is forgiveness; the authority to do this can be found in John 20:23 where Christ specifically gives the earliest pastors--the apostles--the authority to pronounce forgiveness of sins.

Why this can be so important is that hearing "You are forgiven" can be, from a purely psychological level, very powerful. But when you understand that this word isn't just noise, but is the very truth of God spoken, that "You are forgiven" means you are forgiven.

Do not dread repentance, but throw yourself to your knees, let yourself feel, weep if you must weep. Even if you cannot utter a word out loud, be honest with yourself, that you're a sinner. That you have hurt others, you have not done as you should have. Confess your guilt freely, even boldly! Boldly confess you are a sinner.

But then remember this.
Christ saves sinners.

Then rejoice and worship God with thanksgiving and praise. Rejoice, for the Lord of heaven and earth was crucified for you, suffering death for your sake, and by His stripes you are healed. The word of God has been spoken to you, the Gospel of your forgiveness, of the invincible mercy and love of God that is for you, a sinner, a beggar.

Let your heart let out a hallelujah, for Christ the Lord was crucified, buried, dead, and rose on the third day. Death, hell, and the devil have been destroyed, the power of sin abolished, and you are alive in Christ, alive to God, and the Spirit dwells in you--because the Spirit dwells in all who belong to Christ. And if you belong to Jesus, then the gifts and promises are yours. And therefore confess this Gospel. The Lord is your refuge.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Hi K Phillips I believe I may have experienced a similar thing. I heard Jesus/the Holy Spirit tell me to repent internally and I refused and felt the Holy Spirit physically leave my body. I know what you mean when you say people don’t understand and think you can just come back to God.
 
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Ephesians 4:30 NSAB 1995
"Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption."

We are sinners at the root, which means it won't go away till we depart our bodies. Even after salvation, we still struggle with sin, but we have the Christ with us to help break us free from the power of sin. Thru the process of sanctification and trials/tribulations. We work out a lot of that sin, but we will never be fully sinless. Thankfully the Lord is more faithful than us, and he doesn't give up on us and intercedes for us.
 
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