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Strife in the church

jamtjoy

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We have a woman in our church who has become very nasty and rude with several people in our congregation. The sad part is, she is our church (volunteer) secretary and has managed to "fool" our Pastor and other important people (elders, etc.) into thinking she is a very sweet, nice person.

She has become very combative and argumentative. When none of the church officials are around she becomes very demanding, pushy, and almost intimidating at times. The amount of venom that comes out of her is overwhelming. She is a massive control freak all the way down to the last detail - including having to drive everywhere she goes with people and picking out the restaurant we eat at.

It has gotten to the point where I and several others of us in the church, basically avoid her so as not to get another butt-chewing from her, usually for something we have nothing to do with nor any control over.

We feel she has taken her (volunteer) job as our church secretary completely out of context. She has assumed authority where she doesn't have it. And basically walks around "barking" orders at different people when the Pastor is out of earshot.

Several of us have caught her lying, as well as going behind the Pastor's back and making decisions she should not be making. She has even undercut some of us in our ministries - she makes decisons for us without consulting with us and giving us a headsup.

Three of us get the distinct impression she has a major "thing" for our Pastor -who by the way is married - because of some things we have witnessed.

We have tried to talk to her face-to-face as the bible says to, but it has thus far been to no avail. She becomes very combative and defensive and there is just no talking to her about it. With one of us, she "appeared" to have atoned for her sin against that person, then turned around and started several problems with her just after that.

We have prayed and prayed; studied the Word on strife, dissension, and contention in the church - but we are still leary of contacting the Pastors and the Elders about this. I know how easily she has fooled them so far.

At first I just thought it was me she had difficulty with but then just over the last week or so, three other people have come to me and told me similar stories like I went through, with her in my ministry.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you and God Bless!:pray: :cry: :sigh:
 

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I know I maybe young but you've got to think...is this hurting my walk with God? Because if it is damaging your Church then she should be confronted. Paul wasn't shy about saying that. You should approach your minister after praying with others. 'They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as Deacons.' 1 Timothy 3v10. You should carefully think about it and gather imformation then show the Pastor. But be careful not to let this dominate your thinking. For although God wants rid of hinderance for his church he does not want devisions caused by friction.
Anyway has anyone ever tried to get to know her and find out what she really wants. If she is a Christian she needs to be shown the Way using the Bible as evidence. If not then someone should try and introduce her to God. If she is a hinderance then she is a pawn of Satan just now so how great a victory would it be if you could turn Satan's messenger to God!! Now that would be something!
 
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Thank you so much for your help with this. Ironically she is not only our (volunteer) church secretary but a member of our church. I was starting to get close to her as a friend myself, but then our friendship took a nasty turn.

Pete - I have tried talking to her about some of the things that have happened but it is as I said in the first post - to no avail. She literally acts like she doesn't know what I'm talking about. It's kind of odd.

One of our congregation members did manage to get her to address her "ice queen" habits but very quickly (within days) turned around and pulled a couple more not so nice things on her.

It is a very uncomfortable position to be in. I've never run across something like this in the secular world, let alone my church. We are a fairly small body of believers and it makes it even harder.

Clayman - I will do as you suggested. I've already tried talking to her alone. So the next step is going to her with another. Then to the church leaders.

Bound4glory - That's a good question. I'm not sure if she's been baptized or not.

Again, thank you so much for your help!
 
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Yes, we are to directly go to people with whom we have problems.

However, this is not a personal matter. This is a matter that concerns the whole church. A few of you need to speak to the pastor and one or two other people in positions of leadership in one private meeting. Spell out specific things that you know about, first hand. You want to use concrete examples wherever possible.

Beware! The tables could all be turned and you will be considered the trouble maker. This is likely to happen if the pastor feels that he has been blindsided or if he has been embarassed by this going on and feels that he was fooled by her. It should not happen that way, but it would hardly be the first time! This is a problem that the postor should have been aware of.

Often people do not know how to supervise volunteers. The answer is that they should be treated exactly like employed workers except they get no pay, but often volunteers are given more freedom to do things as they please, and that can create a dangerous situation in a church. the bottom like is that this woman's actions are harmful to the church. If the leadership will not take action - time to walk.
 
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