Strange Animals

[juvenissun]

Because there were plenty of tetrapods already occupying the terestrial niches... do Dinosaurs ring a bell? When the dinosaurs became extinct at the K-T boundary, what happened? The mammals diversified to fill all the empty niches. Why didn't they do so before? Because the dinosaurs were occupying them. Is this really hard to understand?


Fishes are fishes? Is the midskipper just a fish? What was Tiktaalik? Acanthostega?

Why wasn't there another species doing the same thing? I told you there were many species doing this in the Devonian. It is not clear how many lines from the information we have. Maybe there was only one line, maybe there were more. As I explained before you need Motive and Opportunity both. Whoever has both first, has a "leg up" (pun intended) on the competition. We don't have all the whys for every species. We don't know exactly what gave and its ancestors an advantage over other lobe-finned lines. You wouldn't be satisfied even if we did... would you, Juvie?

OK, we can not see well on what happened in the past. So let's see what happened today. Are all species of mudskippers jumping onto the land today?
If not, do we have good explanations on why some do but some don't? It would be good if you can give an example on one which has not. (or one which did but got wiped out as result)

 

[juvenissun]

Great article! Very interesting species! But, I think in your heart you know that a fish is a fish is a fish is a fish is a fish and that fish are perfectly happy in the water where God put them. What is Haunting you is the question, why aren't there other species doing this and why didn't they live in logs during the Cretaceous??

Exactly, is it a good question? If this kind of thing happened all the time, then why didn't we have new amphibian species continuously appeared directly from fishes? Why did this only happen once at the Devonian time?

 

[Hespera]

OK, we can not see well on what happened in the past. So let's see what happened today. Are all species of mudskippers jumping onto the land today?
If not, do we have good explanations on why some do but some don't? It would be good if you can give an example on one which has not. (or one which did but got wiped out as result)

We can see very well a great deal of what happened in the past.

Inconvenient truth that it is, there is an excellent fossil record detailing the transition from purely aquatic fish to amphibians. And from there to reptiles. and etc.

What is the reason for your wanting to ask hypothetical questions about obscure matters instead of dealing with the fact that this aspect of evolution is very well documented? We all know, lets hear you say it.

Regardless of you choice to ignore me for knowing more than you do, others read this and know what you are doing.

Any why.

 

[Split Rock]

OK, we can not see well on what happened in the past. So let's see what happened today. Are all species of mudskippers jumping onto the land today?
If not, do we have good explanations on why some do but some don't? It would be good if you can give an example on one which has not. (or one which did but got wiped out as result)

Most species of goby have not adapted to an amphibious livestyle. How about answering my questions?

Exactly, is it a good question? If this kind of thing happened all the time, then why didn't we have new amphibian species continuously appeared directly from fishes? Why did this only happen once at the Devonian time?

You don't really read anything I post... do you?

 

[Hespera]

Most species of goby have not adapted to an amphibious livestyle. How about answering my questions?

You don't really read anything I post... do you?

Doesnt make any difference if he does or not.

Nothing will penetrate anyway. But you are right in insisting on answers and not continuing unless there are some.

The game is to play Socrates, and just ask oh so wise
questions whereby the foolish evolutionists can be led to see the Truth.

To play that game, and earnestly answer his quesitons is to be ignored and presented with yet more would-be Socratic 'teaching".

 

[Split Rock]

Doesnt make any difference if he does or not.

Nothing will penetrate anyway. But you are right in insisting on answers and not continuing unless there are some.

The game is to play Socrates, and just ask oh so wise
questions whereby the foolish evolutionists can be led to see the Truth.

To play that game, and earnestly answer his quesitons is to be ignored and presented with yet more would-be Socratic 'teaching".

YouTube - Homey Don't Play That

 

[visionary]

Aye-aye

 

[visionary]

 

[juvenissun]

Great article! Very interesting species! But, I think in your heart you know that a fish is a fish is a fish is a fish is a fish and that fish are perfectly happy in the water where God put them. What is Haunting you is the question, why aren't there other species doing this and why didn't they live in logs during the Cretaceous??

This question only applied to evolutionists who insisted that environment controlled the change of life. My question is that if so, at least several species of life should change together in a similar way. To creationist, this is not a question at all. We could have as many different strange animals as possible.

Out of several species of mudskipper, there is only one comes to land. This is not a feature of evolution at all. Biologists simply do not know why does it happen.

 

[Hespera]

This question only applied to evolutionists who insisted that environment controlled the change of life. My question is that if so, at least several species of life should change together in a similar way. To creationist, this is not a question at all. We could have as many different strange animals as possible.

Out of several species of mudskipper, there is only one comes to land. This is not a feature of evolution at all. Biologists simply do not know why does it happen.

"at least several species of life should change together in a similar way"

Yes in a cartoon version of reality with a sub-amateur understanding of ecology and evolution. Love that word "should", like someone knows how nature 'should" behave. Hint: its way more complex than any cartoon.

There are 18 species of mudskipper and they all come out on the land. Juvie simply does not know enough to ask a meaningful question.

Again is demonstrated that the only way to raise an objection to evolution is to distort, misrepresent, argue from incredulity and ignorance, tell half truths, or just plain make things up. Like the bit about only one mudskpper species leaving the water. Or how evolution "should" work, according to get this, a creo.

This show is over. Juv, at least learn to check wiki. come back if you ever get an actual idea.

Meanwhile, i think this thread was about odd creatures.

 

[shinbits]

Aye-aye

there's no way that's real

 

[visionary]

there's no way that's real

Aye-Ayes, Aye-Aye Pictures, Aye-Aye Facts - National Geographic

 

[shinbits]

Aye-Ayes, Aye-Aye Pictures, Aye-Aye Facts - National Geographic

woah. then ur pic is pure awesome.

 

[juvenissun]

Aye-aye

What happened to the hair of this aye aye? Is it evolving like early human (shedding ape's hair)? or did it take too much salt?

 

[marlowe007]

Proterix...A legless, armour-plated burrowing hedgehog

Cascoplecia insolitis...A three-eyed, horned insect that deviates from the usual insect body plain

Champ...Aquatic reptile, or floating tree-trunk? You decide.

 

[catzrfluffy]

Deep Sea Hatchetfish:

*AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......
*Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Wouldn't like to be diving...​

 

[catzrfluffy]

The Big Red Jellyfish

Lives in Space

well actually the Sea
Can grow up to 12 Feet across!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_red_(jellyfish)

 

[pgp_protector]

The Immortal Jellyfish (Turritopsis Nutricula)

 

[catzrfluffy]

The Immortal Jellyfish (Turritopsis Nutricula)

How does it die?
And what's the thing in the middle?

 

[pgp_protector]

How does it die?

They Don't (Normally, unless eaten or killed)
Turritopsis nutricula (Immortal jellyfish)

And what's the thing in the middle?

Just parts of it's insides, I don't understand jellyfish biology much, someone else may know better

What happens when they're old, is they revert back to an infant stage & start their life all over, Grow Old, Revert, Grow Old, Revert, Grow Old, Revert, Grow Old, Revert, Grow Old, Revert, Grow Old, Revert, Grow Old, Revert, .....