Stop Abortion!!

[lincolngreen50]

I'm not a feminazi who's involved in Women's Lib movement on campus. But if the question is asked of me, I do lean to the pro-choice side.

And again, I think this is another example of you not actually reading what I've posted. I don't know how you can an inferrence that I am constantly in support of female rights when I in fact, have talked mostly in the posts you've quoted about CO2 emissions and the like.

If you had said "Quirk, you're a Gore-worshipping, Green Peace loving, Save the Whales! idiot" I'd understand at least some point you were trying to make. As its a reasonable inferrence. To suggest I'm a feminazi based on my pro-choice views just makes you look uninformed, and makes me doubt whether you have actually read any post I've made that you've decided to quote.



There are other things I think are more important, yes. I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

And no-one here supports abortion. The support is in the right to CHOOSE.

Human choice is destroying the environment as is Womans freedom of choice to have an abortion is destroying human life.
It is a Womans choice and a duty to ensure that adequate precautions are taken to prevent pregnancy.
As you are passionate about the environment ,then you can appreciate that I am passionate pro life.
There are many alternatives to abortion but that is a Human Choice.
Spiritual choice is an entirely different thing.
There is freedom of choice to believe or not to believe in God but if one does believe and does become a Christian then I believe there is No Choice to choose.
We as believers have to promote Gods Word and sanctify life.

 

[Trashionista]

Human choice is destroying the environment as is Womans freedom of choice to have an abortion is destroying human life.

Umm. There are plenty of feminists - and well known ones - who have given birth and had children.

It is a Womans choice and a duty to ensure that adequate precautions are taken to prevent pregnancy.

I actually do agree with you. But I'd say if a man doesn't want kids, he has as much duty to be involved in reminders or using methods to avoid pregnancy as well.

But - and I assume you again, haven't stayed on topic - I have said in multiple threads that I am for contracepion, and have no ethical issues with the Pill or Depo or the patch or what have you.

As you are passionate about the environment ,then you can appreciate that I am passionate pro life.

I can appreciate that you're attached to a cause. Thats great.

There's just none of YOU in there. It's all Bible passages and quotes from pro-life websites. There's none of your opinion in there. Which wouldn't bother me - but regurgitation is not holding an opinion or having a connection to a cause. That's copy and pasting.

There are many alternatives to abortion but that is a Human Choice.

That's been brought up, and I've responded to it.

Spiritual choice is an entirely different thing.

Not everyone shares the same belief as you on who holds the ultimate decision when it comes to pregnancy. And if you're so into personal freedom as you say you are - and you think fighting for the Right to Life is a right - that's a right of free speech. Therefore, a pro-choice woman has the right to choose what is right for her. And if that includes abortion and a belief that life doesn't start at conception, she has much right to be passionate about that as you do.

There is freedom of choice to believe or not to believe in God but if one does believe and does become a Christian then I believe there is No Choice to choose.

And not everyone makes that choice.

We as believers have to promote Gods Word and sanctify life.

You do that.
However, I'm not going to force a belief system upon all. That's the beauty of freedom - that we can believe what we choose to believe. Whether it is a pro-choice or pro-life view.

 

[anonymous1515]

Hey Quirk, you might as well stop wasting your time; they wont listen to your position, no matter how logical your points are (and logical they certainly are!).

Congrats on making an excellent point, but I fear it is lost on some...

 

[ClausJohn]

Human choice is destroying the environment as is Womans freedom of choice to have an abortion is destroying human life.

Bad analogy. The environment belongs to all of us, the fetus belongs only to the mother. You are indeed welcome to do whatever you want to any land you own, but you're not entitled to do anything to mine.

 

[lincolngreen50]

Hey Quirk, you might as well stop wasting your time; they wont listen to your position, no matter how logical your points are (and logical they certainly are!).

Congrats on making an excellent point, but I fear it is lost on some...

I have a question for all you pro choicers out there.
A teenage girl is pregnant. She’s not married. Her fiancé is not the father of the baby, and he’s upset. Would you recommend abortion?

 

[ClausJohn]

Could this teenage girl be...Mary? The mother of Jesus?

Wow, what a most clever question indeed!

Let me ask you a question as well:
If you could travel back in time and the mother of Hitler would ask you if she should get an abortion or not. What would you, as a pro-lifer recommend?

 

[lincolngreen50]

Could this teenage girl be...Mary? The mother of Jesus?

Wow, what a most clever question indeed!

Let me ask you a question as well:
If you could travel back in time and the mother of Hitler would ask you if she should get an abortion or not. What would you, as a pro-lifer recommend?

You didnt answer my question?
Would pro choicers recommend abortion in this case or not?

 

[lincolngreen50]

My answer to your question is that God is the author of life, and He has given every single individual supreme value. Each life whether inside or outside the womb should therefore be valued by us. God knows the plans He has for each individual and has written in His book all the days ordained for us before one of them came to be.

 

[ClausJohn]

You didnt answer my question?

Oh, you can keep your stupid straw man...

Besides, i answered a similar question in a thread here some time ago. The argument that abortion could kill the next genius in some field is easily countered by that it could also be the next mass murderer that is prevented. You gain and lose nothing. And of course we haven't taken into account that by staying pregnant with child a, a woman will not have child b instead, which would have been the genius as well. Or not. We simply can't know.

And it sure is comforting to know that god had a plan all along by allowing for millions to be killed.

 

[anonymous1515]

I think I'm just about done debating abortion on this site. You can only spin your wheels in the mud for so long before you run out of gas....

 

[Calliso]

I have a question for all you pro choicers out there.
A teenage girl is pregnant. She’s not married. Her fiancé is not the father of the baby, and he’s upset. Would you recommend abortion?

No I would try to help her find a solution other then abortion However if she still chose abortion I would support her in her choice.

 

[lincolngreen50]

The question is irrelevent because there was no reason why Hitler`s mother would need an abortion,there was a legitimate reason why Mary would have an abortion in todays society.

 

[ClausJohn]

The question is irrelevent because there was no reason why Hitler`s mother would need an abortion,there was a legitimate reason why Mary would have an abortion in todays society.

Hitler's mother was his own half-niece. Reasons enough? Not that the actual reasons matter in my or in your example. Your argument, along with your straw man, has already been refuted anyway.