Steps toward civil discourse in this sub-forum

[Texas Lynn]

Dear TexasLynn,

Sorry? In what way? Can you respond to the points I have made without a baseless comment. please? [/size]
Not at all sex and love are different things.


Again that is just a baseless comment, whether a view is Christian needs to be tested against the Biblical testimony, the forum advises this, if you can offer alternatives please do so .[/size]

Sorry, Phineas, I cannot respond to word salad.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Texas Lynn,
I have never heard the expression 'word salad', but unless you can give some evidence apart form your feelings about the topic your whole argument is scripturally baseless.
I suggest a civil discourse should involve some substance to reason with in the debate, most importantly Biblical as it is a Christian forum.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Dear Texas Lynn,
I have never heard the expression 'word salad', but unless you can give some evidence apart form your feelings about the topic your whole argument is scripturally baseless.
I suggest a civil discourse should involve some substance to reason with in the debate, most importantly Biblical as it is a Christian forum.

Wikipedia says

Word salad is a string of words that vaguely resembles language, and may or may not be grammatically correct, but is utterly meaningless. An example of word salad would be

They give their example but your posts suffice.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Texas Lynn,

Wikipedia says

Word salad is a string of words that vaguely resembles language, and may or may not be grammatically correct, but is utterly meaningless. An example of word salad would be

They give their example but your posts suffice.

Clearly sour grapes ... have you heard of that expression?
Sorry but your comment is out of order. I suggest when asking people to be civil you remove the plank from your own eye first.

Now, if there is anything not clear to you from my post I will be happy to try and clarify.
Bless you

 

[Texas Lynn]

Dear Texas Lynn,
Clearly sour grapes ... have you heard of that expression?
Sorry but your comment is out of order. I suggest when asking people to be civil you remove the plank from your own eye first.

Now, if there is anything not clear to you from my post I will be happy to try and clarify.
Bless you

All of it. I'm wondering if you've got a diagnosis on Axis II. Not that there's anything wrong with that. The inability to be coherent would seem to be too difficult to maintain if it wasn't real.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Texas Lynn,

All of it

Then there is probably not much I can do for you. Revelation 22 says outside are the dogs, the sexually immoral. So I seek not to be sexually immoral, I am not offended that for example fornication outside marriage is immoral, are you offended that same-sex sex is? You see Jesus tells us that all sin leads to death, but He has made the way to eternal life when we trust in Him and repent

 

[Polycarp1]

I don't know about anyone else, but I strive to follow the Word of God -- meaning our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ -- and to follow His teachings and keep His commandments.

It's my impression that a surprising number of people who call themselves Christian seem not the least bit interested in what He had to say about starting the effort to live a life pleasing to God with oneself, and not to presume to usurp His role and sit in judgment of others, instead of showing them Christian love and fellowship.

Further, people use their opinions concerning what the Bible says and doesn't say as if the Living God who inspired it was not a sure presence and capable of calling sinners to repentance -- whether that be sexual sin or the sin Jesus condemned more emphatically, that o self-righteousness and believing oneself to be guaranteed a place in Heaven and thus justified in standing in judgment over sinners.

When someone takes Paul's thorough analysis of the idea that we are saved only by the grace of God and begins lifting prooftexts from it out of context to use in judging the morality of others, I wonder if they themselves have any idea of what the Gospel is.

It is not Christian behavior to clothe oneself in the robes of the Almighty and arrogantly set forth the One True Interpretation of God's Word. Paul told the Philippians how to behave; perhaps some of the Redeemed and Chosen (in their own eyes) who do the former might stand to read the latter -- and begin doing the Word instead of using it as a weapon to smite others.

 

[BreadAlone]

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[Phinehas2]

Dear Polycarp1,

I don't know about anyone else, but I strive to follow the Word of God -- meaning our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ -- and to follow His teachings and keep His commandments.

Ok so do I and thus I know that same sex sex is error hence passages in Gen 2, Gen 19, Matt 19, Mark 10, Ep 5, 1 Cor 5-7, Romans 1, 1 Tim 1, 2 Peter 2, Hebrews 13 and Jude 1.
Instead of you continually giving your opinion on other posters how about explaining which of the Jesus Christ’s NT teachings you follow to support same-sex sex. ?

 

[Hentenza]

What portions of the NT support homosexual marriage or any other homosexual activity? :o

Inquiry minds want to know.

 

[KCKID]

What portions of the NT support homosexual marriage or any other homosexual activity? :o

Inquiry minds want to know.

What portions of the NT support birth control, condoms, the RC Church, or influenza shots?

 

[Texas Lynn]

What portions of the NT support homosexual marriage or any other homosexual activity? :o

Inquiry minds want to know.

What part support airline travel, computers, and lawn mowers? You are asking the Bible to do something it is not able to do. It is not the 'answer book' about such things and the concept it is is an insult to it. What portions support a Ford Focus? What portions support the air conditioning in your fundamentalist church? Your question has as much relevance as those but no more. It is a cop out, an appeal to illegetimate authority to silence opposition. Most Christians are not fundamentalist and regard such crawfishin' as the absurdity it is.

 

[BreadAlone]

I guess since the NT doesn't mention child pornography, that's okay too?

 

[Texas Lynn]

I guess since the NT doesn't mention child pornography, that's okay too?

Ask Henentza, he's the one asking such things.

 

[Hentenza]

What portions of the NT support birth control, condoms, the RC Church, or influenza shots?

Again, what potions of the NT support homosexual marriage or any homosexual activity?

 

[Hentenza]

What part support airline travel, computers, and lawn mowers? You are asking the Bible to do something it is not able to do. It is not the 'answer book' about such things and the concept it is is an insult to it. What portions support a Ford Focus? What portions support the air conditioning in your fundamentalist church? Your question has as much relevance as those but no more. It is a cop out, an appeal to illegetimate authority to silence opposition. Most Christians are not fundamentalist and regard such crawfishin' as the absurdity it is.

LOL!!! Again, what portions of the NT support homosexual marriages or any kind of homosexual activity?

Please answer the question. It is an honest question.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Again, what potions of the NT support homosexual marriage or any homosexual activity?

The answer to this is not a significant matter. It is an effort to mask your impotence in this debate. It doesn't matter if there's no such references or 1000 such references because it is a complete distraction and irrelevancy.

 

[Texas Lynn]

LOL!!! Again, what portions of the NT support homosexual marriages or any kind of homosexual activity?

Please answer the question. It is an honest question.

I am not sure how it is "honest" but it is certainly incredibly stupid. This sort of distractor only is attempted to mask the impotence of the argument for your side. The answer is entirely irrelevant and not of concern to rational individuals.

 

[Polycarp1]

What part of the Bible commands, or indeed even enables, Christians to hurl invective towards others for disagreeing with them? What part of the Bible enables any Christian to set him/herself up as the authority to whom others should turn for the authoritative meaning of the Biblical text?

Whether or not homosexual people may marry each other (and no Phinehastic quibbling, what is meant by that usage is same sex marriages) is immaterial to the duty of members to be civil to each other under the rules of the board, and the duty of Christians to show courtesy and respect towards others, even returning good for evil and a soft word for a bitter one.

What has been shown in this forum by and large is the inability of people who call themselves followers of Jesus Christ to obey even his simplest commandments as regards how they should bear witness to others. (Of course many such people believe in the Bible rather than in Jesus, and found their insults on selective quotation supposedly justifying them as "proclaiming righteousness," and I sincerely hope that He does not hold that idolatry against them.)

For the gay person, the "Good News" seemingly is that they are fated to live a life without love, and choose between being sneered at and castigated by the "good Christians" or living a lie about themselves. There is no promise of joy, acceptance, fellowiship, God's love, or anything but legalistic condemnation. If any of you wonder why your "witness" is so barren, consider what you are witnessing about. You have as much as told gay people that God's grace is not sufficient for them.

And for that you should be ashamed.

 

[Hentenza]

Ask Henentza, he's the one asking such things.

And you are yet to answer.