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Stephen Miller on Bostson judge who ordered flight grounded

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Okay. That is fair. They do pay more in federal taxes. But it doesn't explain their over a half tillion debt that keeps growing. Who is going to pay for that?
Californians.
As far as I know the federal government has never bailed out California or any other state's debt since the Revolutionary War era.
 
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California, by itself, is the world's fourth largest economy. I don't think you need be concerned.
And the United States is the World's 1st largest economy. But $38 trillion in debt is a concern.
 
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As far as I know none of the illegals convicted of these crimes protested that they did not receive a fair trial or a jury of their peers or were gagged during their trials.
The question is not about their criminal proceedings, but about their immigration proceedings.
Now I believe Garcia has seen 14 judges, and we still hear Democrats cry he has not received due process.
Do you mean 1 district court judge + a 3-judge appeals court panel + the 9-judge Supreme court?

Garcia is getting his due process now.
There is no number that is going to satisfy the Democrats, the idea is to ideally keep them in the country forever. These illegals are future votes and have already given states like California extra representatives in Congress.
They have pills now for paranoia.
Let me also point out again that the Supreme Court decisions over the years, while being all over the place, have recognized that someone entering the country illegally does NOT have the same due process as a citizen.
 
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As far as I know none of the illegals convicted of these crimes protested that they did not receive a fair trial or a jury of their peers or were gagged during their trials. Now I believe Garcia has seen 14 judges, and we still hear Democrats cry he has not received due process. There is no number that is going to satisfy the Democrats, the idea is to ideally keep them in the country forever. These illegals are future votes.
Some of these guys have been convicted of murder. This farcical claim that the Democrats want to keep people here to vote is abject nonsense.
Supreme Court decisions over the years, while being all over the place, have recognized that someone entering the country illegally does NOT have the same due process as a citizen.
Hey, you are beginning to grasp it. Yes, depending on the circumstances some people don't have the same due process are native born citizen. The SC has never determined that some people shouldn't be allowed no due process.

Maybe the penny is beginning to drop.
 
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Some of these guys have been convicted of murder. This farcical claim that the Democrats want to keep people here to vote is abject nonsense.

Hey, you are beginning to grasp it. Yes, depending on the circumstances some people don't have the same due process are native born citizen. The SC has never determined that some people shouldn't be allowed no due process.

Maybe the penny is beginning to drop.
Illegal immigrants don't have to vote to make an impact. They are counted in the census
 
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Illegal immigrants don't have to vote to make an impact. They are counted in the census
I'll word this as I normally would. The person who told you that the Democrats are for illegal immigration and against deporting them (Trump is lagging behind the numbers that Biden deported anyway) is an idiot. Tell him or her I said so.
 
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This farcical claim that the Democrats want to keep people here to vote is abject nonsense.
A Democrat takeover is the only possible reason behind flooding the country with over 10 million illegals in four years and lying so extensively about it. They also had planned to pack the Supreme Court but couldn't get away with it.
 
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“A local judge in Boston ordered the flight grounded and has now trapped ICE officers in Djibouti with these savage monsters! Having to guard and protect them 24-7 in a location with no appropriate facilities! No detention space! No detention beds! Nothing! Putting their lives on the line! They have to watch them 24-7. There aren’t enough resources to ensure the safety of these ICE officers! Is this judge mad? Is this judge a lunatic? What kind of country are we living in where we are even having this kind of conversation!?” Stephen Miller said during an appearance on Newsmax this weekend.

I absolutely concur with Mr. Miller.

.....if Mr Miller and the DHS had provided the deportees due process before they rushed them out of the country, holding them on a foreign soil would not be an issue.
 
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A Democrat takeover is the only possible reason behind flooding the country with over 10 million illegals in four years and lying so extensively about it. They also had planned to pack the Supreme Court but couldn't get away with it.
The conspiracy section is just down the hall. Second door on the right. On the far right.
 
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I'll word this as I normally would. The person who told you that the Democrats are for illegal immigration and against deporting them (Trump is lagging behind the numbers that Biden deported anyway) is an idiot. Tell him or her I said so.
Trump is lagging way behind Biden in the number that get in
 
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A Democrat takeover is the only possible reason behind flooding the country with over 10 million illegals in four years and lying so extensively about it. They also had planned to pack the Supreme Court but couldn't get away with it.
Has Sec. Kristi had a chance to produce a document showing this 10 M extra undocumented persons over those four years, or is she too busy with her cosplay?
 
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.....if Mr Miller and the DHS had provided the deportees due process before they rushed them out of the country, holding them on a foreign soil would not be an issue.
I’m not so sure about that. There would be no problem deporting them back to their country of origin, but to a third country halfway around the world? Particularly to one in the midst of war such as South Sudan.
 
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ICE officers stuck in Djibouti shipping container with deported migrants

Trump officials transferred the migrants to the East African nation in response to a judge’s order. They now face threats that include rocket attacks from Yemen.
Trump officials could have flown the immigrants back to the United States. Instead, they were taken to Djibouti, where in late May officers turned a Conex container into a makeshift detention facility on U.S. Naval Base Camp Lemonnier, according to Mellissa Harper, a top ICE official, who detailed the conditions Thursday in a required status update to the judge.
Three officers and eight detainees arrived at the only U.S. military base in Africa unprepared for what awaited them. Defense officials warned them of “imminent danger of rocket attacks from terrorist groups in Yemen,” but the ICE officers did not pack body armor or other gear to protect themselves. Temperatures soar past 100 degrees during the day. At night, she wrote, a “smog cloud” forms in the windless sky, filled with rancid smoke from nearby burning pits where residents incinerate trash and human waste.
The Trump administration has urged the Supreme Court to stay Murphy’s April order requiring screenings under the Convention Against Torture, which Congress ratified in 1994 to bar the U.S. government from sending people to countries where they might face torture. In a filing in that case Thursday, officials told the Supreme Court that Murphy’s order violates their authority to deport immigrants to third countries if their homelands refuse to take them back, particularly if they are serious offenders who might otherwise be released in the United States.

Is it hypocritical to complain about the conditions the ICE officers are facing, which are abominable, when those are the exact conditions inflicted on the deportees?
 
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Is it hypocritical to complain about the conditions the ICE officers are facing, which are abominable, when those are the exact conditions inflicted on the deportees?
Especially considering they could have just, y'know, obeyed the court order and brought everyone back to the US.
 
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