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Stem Cell Research

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Pentecostal Boy said:
what do u think bout it? good or bad? I think it is wrong to take someones life to MAYBE save someone else.

It is a common misconception, primarily amongst Christians (surprise, surprise) that in order to research stem cells, massive amounts of fetii must be indiscriminately slaughtered, first. Same misconception goes for using them in treating others.

Got Alzheimer's? Hang on while we abort a fetus and we'll have that cleared up for ya in a jiff.

Doesn't quite work that way.
 
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Silent Bob

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Pentecostal Boy said:
what do u think bout it? good or bad? I think it is wrong to take someones life to MAYBE save someone else.

It is good. As long as abortions happen it is wasteful to let the outcome of them not to be put in good use. It would be unethical to abort fetuses just to harvest their cells but this is NOT what is happening. It is like asking if donating ones body -or parts- after death to science -or others- is moral or not. You can pick to give your eyes and heart to someone, you can decide to be donated for anatomy class or you can pick to become 100% worm food, its your choice.
 
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Silent Bob said:
It is good. As long as abortions happen it is wasteful to let the outcome of them not to be put in good use. It would be unethical to abort fetuses just to harvest their cells but this is NOT what is happening. It is like asking if donating ones body -or parts- after death to science -or others- is moral or not. You can pick to give your eyes and heart to someone, you can decide to be donated for anatomy class or you can pick to become 100% worm food, its your choice.

Stem cell research doesn't just require aborted fetuses. That is another misconception.
 
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I know that stem cell research does not require the use of abortions in order to be operational. However, I'm still a little iffy on governmental funding for it. Why? Not religious reasons, but economic ones. It's not a gurantee that the research will bear fruit, and if it does it might take 50 years. Who knows?:scratch: :sorry:
 
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KalEl76 said:
It's not a gurantee that the research will bear fruit, and if it does it might take 50 years. Who knows?:scratch: :sorry:

Government invest is not required to be economically in the business sense.
 
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one love said:
Its science, who cares whether it bares fruit or is good or bad (you is being harmed in the first place)? Can't it be beutiful in its own right without having to have some economical use, like math?


Umm, to the best of my recollection the government doesn't fund stem cell research. Therefore, if they begin to utilize the taxpayers' money to fund this type of research, we would like a gurantee that something will come out of the money being spent. It's a serious issue and allot of people are all for the government spending on this research. I'm taking the side of caution from an economical view right now. Then of course, we spend billions of dollars as it is on ridiculous stuff. :doh:
 
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Well that could bring up a bunch of other misconceptions.:)

I was thinking of research using adult stem cells.

I know about them but to quote wikipedia quoting NIH:

Embryonic stem cell research is "thought to have much greater developmental potential than adult stem cells," according to the National Institutes of Health.

I say if it is dead and you have consent use it.
 
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The government already spends billions of dollars funding science. There is never any gurantee that it will produce anything usefull in the near future. If that was a necessary condition of science we would still be living in the dark ages.



KalEl76 said:
Umm, to the best of my recollection the government doesn't fund stem cell research. Therefore, if they begin to utilize the taxpayers' money to fund this type of research, we would like a gurantee that something will come out of the money being spent. It's a serious issue and allot of people are all for the government spending on this research. I'm taking the side of caution from an economical view right now. Then of course, we spend billions of dollars as it is on ridiculous stuff. :doh:
 
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I believe stem cell research is useful.

Adult stem cell research has produced more results than embryonic stem cell research. However, I have to wonder how much of that is because people are fighting the issue. There are researchers out there that are working on methods of removing embryonic stem cells without killing embryos, but I wonder if that would really be an amicable solution for the anti-embryonic stem cell research groups.

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,66113,00.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/10/17/MNGRHF9FK31.DTL
 
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