If everything needs a cause, what caused God's existence? If nothing caused God's existence, why must physical reality as such need a cause?
God is not a thing. is the universe a thing? I don't know, it seems real to me, but then again it is constantly changing, maybe it only seems real.
I don't need an image of reality in my mind. I experience it in everyday life. This is what I have to explain, and I see no reason to invent entities in order to do so.
it is true that we are reality but your brain has to interpret the information and thus it has to draw some kind of picture, which is not the entire reality but only part of it. you don't invent entities? i beg to differ, you invent them all the time, you have one in you called noxot and yet you don't know him like I do, do you? you have one you invented called "yourself" too, because you think you are what you are just as much as you think things about what is reality. you are just part of reality and you do with it whatever you want, going in certain directions that you believe are the good and the truth. all humans seem to do this. you know what works really good in reality? love and truth. this is also what God is, because the highest reality is not physical, it is whatever God is, which I call "Gods thoughts". the funny thing about reality is thinking is just as much part of it as the physical universe is. I think part of the cause of reality is thinking and you do not. you depend greatly on the physical universe because you have faith that it is real and a solid structure for knowing all of reality.
though you can not see the invisible reality that is always right here, the thinking reality. you don't seem to have faith in very complex concepts of reality that have not been well understood and documented and seemingly proven. you want to be as close to as much proofs as possible, for you, proof = truth and yet if only you could learn how much proofs are fickle compared to the totality of reality, how everything is multifaceted depending on how you look at it. i don't offer proofs, there is that all over and you reject them by interpreting the data differently by assuming God is a fairy tale. I say that to know God you have to experience God. anyone who thinks they find God due to proofs and logic has never really seen God because only God can show himself to the ones seeking him. to use knowledge and information is to have second hand information and we can derive all kind of thing out of just information and different mindsets of reality.
Are you saying that my views are self-evident as well? Then what use is self-evidence?
everything is useful or a danger depending on what you do with it. the human heart plays a key role in determining if he will be helped or harmed by something.
Not really. I would see the term "God" as superfluous and little more than poetry unless this entity was conscious. I would think of whatever it was as a force of nature, similar to gravity. That would make a poor God.
true a force alone would make a poor God, that is why i believe God to be "mind". i know that because you believe the physical reality to be the be all end all of reality and that you can see that everything functions in a physical manner and that you think that rules out God, but what i'm saying to you is that you don't understand that the physical reality is not even what you think it is, it only works because it does what it was made to do and that is how it is possible to think about God. the physical reality is not separated from God, it is part of God.
Then what good is the word?
humans think the bible is the word of God, it is funny because the word of God is the entire universe and all of reality.
On that note, I have to get to work. Perhaps I'll continue my reply later today. I will just note that nowhere in your post do you provide a proof of God's existence. You merely say that your views are self-evident, and bizarrely that mine are too.
proof, you want proof from something that proceeds proof, so then look at the results of what is but you disagree with why and what it is and does. the problem is not the proof, it is the subject interrupting the proof. just because your kind of reasoning is popular, does not make it any more valid than mine. seriously, all you are doing is conforming to popular opinion of one kind or another.
if noxot = 13 and proof = 11 then noxot + proof = 24.
if eudaimonist = 33 and proof = 11, eudaimonist + proof = 44
look, same proof, different number, cause we are different variables of reality. there are a bunch of equations and outcomes, you keep asking for a special number to convince you of something that is not a number, but all numbers and more. you can not know God no matter how many numbers you know, you know God by going past the numbers, it is called spiritual contemplation.
honestly, you are probably better off not believing that there is a God, who knows what kind of person you would be if you were religious. that is some dangerous junk to get involved in when you depend so much on your own mind to know God. you can't know God with your own mind alone, that is why proofs are so worthless, just like reading a bible is worthless when it is only your own self looking for all the answers. that is what atheist and most religious people have in common, they depend on their own brain to tell them the truth. it is funny because religious people will be like "no! i depend on THE BIBLE" and atheist are all like " NO, i depend on SCIENCE".... they completely forget who is using the thing they say is their guide.
no one can tell someone else about God, they have to experience him. spiritual reality is so much different from the common human perspectives of the bible, this has only been a strong proof that humans are hard wired to think and learn in a certain way which makes them never develop other aspects of thinking and introspection and contemplation. everyone is so scattered by various lesser concepts and ideas about reality that they don't see the one behind it all. I know there is a God, because you don't know and most people don't know even though they have faith that he might be.
