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Quite the statement from one an SDA mod! I think it's a serious power-play rather than an unbiased mod speaking there. That was uncalled for, and if he feels that strongly then he should be a participant, not a mod.Perhaps it is such statements as these that cause Night to think some mods don't want progressives around:
Originally Posted by thecountrydoc
How is it the right of a minority, who does not hold true to the teachings and doctrines of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to prostitute the Seventh-day Adventist Church name by being designated a sub-forum of the SDA Forum?
I'm still reading through the WHOLE thread and haven't even gotten to your comments Night. I just wanted to voice my support. Trads may not want to accept the MANY other factions of SDAism, but that doesn't really matter. They exist and there's NOTHING they can do about it, no matter how much they jump up and down and kick and scream. It is what it is. I'm heading back to read more of the thread.I posted a few comments in there. I don't think I will get reported as I tried to be diplomatic with my words.
I am getting quite adept at verbally dancing around these hyper-sensitive mods! Tall has taught me well to curb my 'tone'!
Sure you don't get to say what you really want to say exactly how you want to say it, but maybe I can last long enough in there to have at least SOME of my opinions considered.
Anyhow, I am still learning. I have never been much for dealing with administration in any capacity. I would rather just bulldoze over them verbally and to heck with diplomacy and tact. I am not as refined and socially polished as Tall is when dealing with the 'higher-ups'.
I think I did relatively well though. Go and read for yourselves.
Am I missing something here? You're refering to Tall73?Quite the statement from one an SDA mod! I think it's a serious power-play rather than an unbiased mod speaking there. That was uncalled for, and if he feels that strongly then he should be a participant, not a mod.
In CHRIST alone...
Am I missing something here? You're refering to Tall73?
On my radar, he appears to be a regular member, and not staff.
Perhaps he was staff and no longer is, or he can shut off his staff icon (I can't) . . .
No disrespect intended! I am just curious if I'm missing something?
he should be a participant, not a mod.
I was making reference to Doc's statement, not Tall73's, and from a completely different thread. I'll check it to make sure that's how it is stated in my post.Am I missing something here? You're refering to Tall73?
On my radar, he appears to be a regular member, and not staff.
Perhaps he was staff and no longer is, or he can shut off his staff icon (I can't) . . .
No disrespect intended! I am just curious if I'm missing something?
Then, "Thank you Tall!".It is preposterous that the thread was not advertised here when it was first started so that everyone on the forum could be made aware of its existence.
If Tall hadn't brought it to our attention, we would still be posting away out here in blissful ignorance while three Trad mods play a significant role in formulating our FSG's with no Prog input whatsoever!
Dean, the offending statement in question was made by Doc. Both Tall and Free were quoting Doc in thier respective posts.
It is Doc who Free is talking about.
I agree and I have felt this way for a long time now Free. Of course, that is not news to anyone.
It certainly isn't the first outrageous, intolerant statement he has had to be called on and it surely won't be the last.
I was making reference to Doc's statement, not Tall73's, and from a completely different thread. I'll check it to make sure that's how it is stated in my post.
Basically, from what I've read so far, it's the Trad mods pushing their agenda in a thread that most of us (all SDA's) didn't even know existed. It's quite a bit lop-sided to be a fair representation for all SDA's. Par for the course here though!
In CHRIST alone...
It is preposterous that the thread was not advertised here when it was first started so that everyone on the forum could be made aware of its existence.
If Tall hadn't brought it to our attention, we would still be posting away out here in blissful ignorance while three Trad mods play a significant role in formulating our FSG's with no Prog input whatsoever!
Then, "Thank you Tall!".
Secrets, secrets, secrets! Be sure your sins will find you out!
In CHRIST alone...
No, Sophia, they are not. There is nothing in the Bible that says these qualities make one a prophet. If that were so all humans would automatically be prophets!
proposal
stop using the term traditional and historic to refere to the main body of SDA' . they are CONSERVATIVE. HISTORICS are those who agree with the pre-1950's QUESTIONS ON DOCTRINE, theology. There has already been a split in the main body and EVANGLICALS AND PROGRESSIVES just the contuination of the split, some have already questioned, these questions have come up 40 years ago and do effect Adventism. They are pertianate and relevant.
I have found for many Adventists it seems to be more important to be an Adventist than to be a Christian.
I personally agree that countrydoc should not be a mod, and would like to remove him, but do not know how (and I doubt if it would be possible).
JM
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you.
But, you asked how to go about removing a member from the staff. I'd start here, I think (but I'm not sure). First, remember this rule:
"Issues with staff decisions should be taken to the staff member, then the reconciliation team, period. Don't post them, don't PM them to others, don't take them to Lee. "
After exhausting this avenue, I'd consider this option:
http://christianforums.com/f883-suggestion-complaint-box.html
why are they willing to put up with them, a few reasonsThis is very true, and the 'traditional' forum here is an alliance between the CONSERVATIVE and HISTORIC groups. This is highly negative as I would not agree to be in a church espousing the HISTORIC position, and so would not want them to be the only ones allowed to post/answer questions in the main SDA forum (I wonder that the CONSERVATIVES seem so willing to put up with them, but not with the EVANGELICAL and PROGRESSIVE groups (I am probably personally closer to the EVANGELICAL camp).
JM
As a clarification, all staff were informed of the beginning of the FSG update process. In addition your moderators (christian73, DarylFawcett, FreeinChrist, reddogs, Svt4Him, thecountrydoc, visionary) were PMed when the SDA-specific discussion thread was opened. Moderators were free to invite members to participate in the thread. I think that some moderators didn't realize it was intended to be an open discussion.It is preposterous that the thread was not advertised here when it was first started so that everyone on the forum could be made aware of its existence.
If Tall hadn't brought it to our attention, we would still be posting away out here in blissful ignorance while three Trad mods play a significant role in formulating our FSG's with no Prog input whatsoever!
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