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Hmm, it seems you are taking everything at face value, consider the culture of that time, and consider everything else before making the claim your making. It is nice and cozy to think that it was on the confession I suppose but consider the entirety of what Jesus told Peter.
Matthew 18. "Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means rock), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it. 19. And I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.
Leevo. Firstly, any bible scholar will tell you, you can't make a doctrine, or dogma out of one scripture. " By two or three witnesses let all things be confirmed.!" 2 Corinthians 13:1... And the keys have been given to all those In Christ, and filled with His Spirit. We are all enabled to bind and loose. Matthew 18: 15 ¶Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Why would Jesus have given Peter the "keys to the Kingdom of Heaven," if it was only his confession that Jesus was building his church on? He said that first to Peter, and later at Pentecost, to the other apostles. Not to all of his followers, Jesus had hundreds.
Leevo not Peters confession of who Jesus was.....but WHO GAVE PETER THE REVELATION OF WHO CHRIST WAS!
Jesus later asks Peter to, "Feed my sheep." Speaking of the other apostles. And the other followers.
Leevo, all believers are to be teachers to the younger christians..!
Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Also, Peter is made distinct several times throughout the New Testament. Mark 16 7. "But go and tell his disciples and Peter, He is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him, as he told you.
Leevo.... Peter had a ministry to the Jews, as Pauls ministry was to the gentile. And don't forget Pauls ministry was later than Peters, so why wouldn't he be mentioned. BUT Peter isn't given any importance by Paul, if you read Galations through. Galatians 1: 16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lords brother.
And Galatians 2: 1 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no mans person
for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision wasunto Peter;
8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Why is Peter made distinct from the other disciples here?
Also, here, in Luke 24. The resurrected Christ appears first to Peter when he showed himself to the apostles.
33.They got up and returned at once to Jerusalem. There they found the Eleven and those with them, assembled together 34. and saying, It is true! The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon.
Why is that? Could it be that Peter is the head of the apostles and the Church?
Not on your life Leevo, not on your life. The Lord is no respector of persons. Have you never read that before?
Peter lead them in the Book of Acts.
Acts 2 14.Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice, and proclaimed to them, You who are Jews, indeed all of you staying in Jerusalem. Let this be known to you, and listen to my words.
Peter was the one who stood up and lead. You cannot deny that Peter had his place as head of the apostles. You see Peter everywhere as a leader. Also, later in Acts 2, Peter receives the first converts into the Church. He leads several other times throughout Acts. You always see, Peter and the apostles, not just the twelve apostles when reading the Bible. In Acts 8, Peter excommunicates the first heretic. Peter is also the first to recognize Gentiles in the Church in Acts 10. Paul also goes to visit Peter specifically in Galatians. Not any of the other apostles. I wonder why? Maybe because Peter is the leader.
Leevo, you are like talking to a brick wall. Do you really have eyes to see, but see not? Read Galatians 2 again, and see what PAUL had to say about Peter. This one you report as being head of the Apostles.... You gotta be kidding..
Bar-Elohim.
Hmm, it seems you are taking everything at face value, consider the culture of that time, and consider everything else before making the claim your making. It is nice and cozy to think that it was on the confession I suppose but consider the entirety of what Jesus told Peter.
Matthew 18. "Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means rock), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it. 19. And I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.
Leevo. Firstly, any bible scholar will tell you, you can't make a doctrine, or dogma out of one scripture. " By two or three witnesses let all things be confirmed.!" 2 Corinthians 13:1... And the keys have been given to all those In Christ, and filled with His Spirit. We are all enabled to bind and loose. Matthew 18: 15 ¶Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Why would Jesus have given Peter the "keys to the Kingdom of Heaven," if it was only his confession that Jesus was building his church on? He said that first to Peter, and later at Pentecost, to the other apostles. Not to all of his followers, Jesus had hundreds.
Leevo not Peters confession of who Jesus was.....but WHO GAVE PETER THE REVELATION OF WHO CHRIST WAS!
Jesus later asks Peter to, "Feed my sheep." Speaking of the other apostles. And the other followers.
Leevo, all believers are to be teachers to the younger christians..!
Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Also, Peter is made distinct several times throughout the New Testament. Mark 16 7. "But go and tell his disciples and Peter, He is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him, as he told you.
Leevo.... Peter had a ministry to the Jews, as Pauls ministry was to the gentile. And don't forget Pauls ministry was later than Peters, so why wouldn't he be mentioned. BUT Peter isn't given any importance by Paul, if you read Galations through. Galatians 1: 16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lords brother.
And Galatians 2: 1 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no mans person
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision wasunto Peter;
8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Why is Peter made distinct from the other disciples here?
Also, here, in Luke 24. The resurrected Christ appears first to Peter when he showed himself to the apostles.
33.They got up and returned at once to Jerusalem. There they found the Eleven and those with them, assembled together 34. and saying, It is true! The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon.
Why is that? Could it be that Peter is the head of the apostles and the Church?
Not on your life Leevo, not on your life. The Lord is no respector of persons. Have you never read that before?
Peter lead them in the Book of Acts.
Acts 2 14.Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice, and proclaimed to them, You who are Jews, indeed all of you staying in Jerusalem. Let this be known to you, and listen to my words.
Peter was the one who stood up and lead. You cannot deny that Peter had his place as head of the apostles. You see Peter everywhere as a leader. Also, later in Acts 2, Peter receives the first converts into the Church. He leads several other times throughout Acts. You always see, Peter and the apostles, not just the twelve apostles when reading the Bible. In Acts 8, Peter excommunicates the first heretic. Peter is also the first to recognize Gentiles in the Church in Acts 10. Paul also goes to visit Peter specifically in Galatians. Not any of the other apostles. I wonder why? Maybe because Peter is the leader.
Leevo, you are like talking to a brick wall. Do you really have eyes to see, but see not? Read Galatians 2 again, and see what PAUL had to say about Peter. This one you report as being head of the Apostles.... You gotta be kidding..
Bar-Elohim.
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