Static Earth teaching.

[idscience]

Interesting, how do you reconcile these with heliocentrism then:

1 Chronicle 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

So Genesis can't be contradicted but those can?

1 Chronicle 16:30
Let all the earth tremble before him. The world stands firm and cannot be shaken.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun rises and the sun sets, then hurries around to rise again.

What does one have to do with the other? I guess that is what happens when an Atheist teaches bible class.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're Biblically mature when you can pick what you want to believe...

Don't you?

 

[Vanderhaust]

@AV1611VET
I said...

True, but the church did teach that the earth was static.

And you said...

Not my church.

And then said...

In your opinion, does the earth go around the sun in spite of the Bible?

First, you imply that belief is in spite of the bible and not I. Have you considered that the people who claim to understand God and the bible might have gotten it wrong?

And second, what are you implying? That the sun goes around the earth?

To answer your question, the earth revolves around the sun. Our sun is at the center of our solar system and our solar system is not at the center of our galaxy. And our galaxy isn't even at the center or our known universe.

 

[Cromulent]

AV, you're being arrogant again. The creator of the universe has not specifically selected you and your elite band of "Independent Fundamentalist Baptists" to be the sole people "biblically mature" enough to properly understand the bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

First, you imply that belief is in spite of the bible and not I. Have you considered that the people who claim to understand God and the bible might have gotten it wrong?

And second, what are you implying? That the sun goes around the earth?

To answer your question, the earth revolves around the sun. Our sun is at the center of our solar system and our solar system is not at the center of our galaxy. And our galaxy isn't even at the center or our known universe.

Vanderhaust, I'm going to ask you a second time:

Does the earth go around the sun in spite of the Bible?

YES or NO please.

Until you answer that, please do not ask me any questions and expect me to answer you.

Thank you.

 

[Split Rock]

What's so strange about it?

What if God wanted heliocentrism to remain a mystery until just the right time?

Suppose God wanted evolution to remain a mystery until the 1850's... I like this way of thinking.

Genesis 1 cannot be contradicted, since Genesis 1 is literal; the other two passages are obvious metaphors.

In other words, you pick and chose what you want to believe in based on what the majority of the church is doing at the time. Good to know.

It's called Biblical maturity, and it separates the men from the boys.

It seems that "Biblical maturity" means whatever you want is "obviously" literal, like: a talking snake, a man made from dirt, a rib woman and a magic tree of knowledge, while others are "obviously" metaphors (heavy sarcasm). Your "biblical maturity" really separates the people who do the hard work to understand what scripture was meant to say from those people who interpret scripture in the most convenient way that props up their own view of how they want things to be. Guess which group creationists here represent?

 

[CabVet]

1 Chronicle 16:30
Let all the earth tremble before him. The world stands firm and cannot be shaken.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun rises and the sun sets, then hurries around to rise again.

What does one have to do with the other? I guess that is what happens when an Atheist teaches bible class.

They both say the earth does not move and the sun revolves around it. Haven't you gone to Sunday school? And you are using the wrong translations, the only correct Bible is KJV1611, that was established in this forum a long time ago.

 

[[serious]]

Don't you?

I think the point is that everyone picks and chooses how they are going to interpret it. No one REALLY takes everything literally.

 

[razeontherock]

misinformation+ delusional self interest+ internet = garbage like that.

I had forgotten this mathematical formula

 

[razeontherock]

Suppose God wanted evolution to remain a mystery until the 1850's... I like this way of thinking.

Yes, but how much age is embedded into it?

 

[razeontherock]

Interesting, how do you reconcile these with heliocentrism then:

1 Chronicle 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

Pretty simple, really. You honestly have difficulties ciphering these?

 

[razeontherock]

In other words, you pick and chose what you want to believe in

That is not what was demonstrated

 

[Vanderhaust]

Vanderhaust, I'm going to ask you a second time:

Does the earth go around the sun in spite of the Bible?

YES or NO please.

Until you answer that, please do not ask me any questions and expect me to answer you.

Thank you.

I thought my answer was very plain, but very well, my answer is yes the earth goes around the sun.
My questions were only there to clarify your position. If you chose to remain neutral in this discussion that is your choice.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

It's called Biblical maturity, and it separates the men from the boys.

Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

AKA "cherry picking" to support your particular flavor of theism, to the tune of 30,000, give or take.

 

[Vanderhaust]

AKA "cherry picking" to support your particular flavor of theism, to the tune of 30,000, give or take.

What does "to the tune of 30 000" mean?

 

[AV1611VET]

What does "to the tune of 30 000" mean?

They believe there are 38,000 different sects or denominations of Christianity.

 

[Nabobalis]

They believe there are 38,000 different sects or denominations of Christianity.

Number of Christian Denominations:

There are approximately 38,000 Christian denominations in the world. This statistic takes into consideration cultural distinctions of denominations in different countries.
World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)

There you are.

 

[AV1611VET]

There you are.

Don't give it to me, give it to Vanderhaust.

I've been down this road before.

It gets old after awhile.

 

[JustMeSee]

When was it first theorized that our planets revolve around the sun?
Was it accepted, then not accepted, and then accepted again?

 

[Vanderhaust]

When was it first theorized that our planets revolve around the sun?
Was it accepted, then not accepted, and then accepted again?

Try this link Heliocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia