States look to hire illegal immigrants to fatten struggling police departments

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Good thing that illegals won't become police officers in the US. Quit trying to gaslight, as it says "non-citizens" (as in those who have immigrated her legally) not illegals.
I took the headline directly from the article. You present false information; and you want to talk to me about gaslighting?

LOL!

Get real.
 
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I'm not sure you intended to say that "illegal aliens can legally become police officers" as your article -- and the law itself -- says the exact opposite. Non-Citizens can become police officers, under the law, if they have a permit to work in the United States. Illegal aliens, not being here legally, cannot get a work permit for the US.
Yea, typo on my part. Cannot become police officers!
 
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Defunding the police is now a right-wing Republican agenda.
The Republicans didn't defund these departments; and the Republicans are trying to fill those positions with low wage criminals.

Is that you best attempt to shift the blame?
 
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I'm not sure you intended to say that "illegal aliens can legally become police officers" as your article -- and the law itself -- says the exact opposite. Non-Citizens can become police officers, under the law, if they have a permit to work in the United States. Illegal aliens, not being here legally, cannot get a work permit for the US.
That covers DACA recipients and those who arrived illegally but have been granted tentative status because of rough conditions in their home countries. It could even encompass some illegal immigrants caught and released into the U.S. under Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’ “parole” power.

 
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I took the headline directly from the article. You present false information; and you want to talk to me about gaslighting?

LOL!

Get real.
We were all gaslit by the august Washington Times?
 
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How isn’t this “goading”?
Based on the evidence that I provided, I believe it's a fair question to ask to back up that bare assertion with some evidence to refute my source.

That's how logical arguments work.
 
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That covers DACA recipients and those who arrived illegally but have been granted tentative status because of rough conditions in their home countries. It could even encompass some illegal immigrants caught and released into the U.S. under Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’ “parole” power.

Due process, yes.
 
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Based on the evidence that I provided, I believe it's a fair question to ask to back up that bare assertion with some evidence to refute my source.

That's how logical arguments work?
I axed that, you can delete this if you’d like but I withdrew the query.
But asking for a source for why an unqualified candidate would be excluded strains credulity.
 
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I axed that, you can delete this if you’d like but I withdrew the query.
But asking for a source for why an unqualified candidate would be excluded strains credulity.
I provided my source.

Where is yours?

See: Burden of Proof
 
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Would you need a source for the assertion that the sun will rise in the East tomorrow?
I would consider that an axiom.

Do you have anything to add that might be relevant, in absence of anything to support your bare assertion?
 
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A clue is in the title of the thread. According to the article, departments are struggling to hire; because they have been defunded.
<Rereads article> I see that no where in the piece you linked.
So we get low paid police officers whom, of some, owe money to the cartels for illegally entering the country.
The article mentions people like DACA. It only speculates that people owing cartels "might" happen without any explanation of how people smuggled in illegaly would be granted work visas.
I'm not sure that this is the best approach to solving the crime problem, nor inhibiting the possibility of corrupt cops.

The article mentions those who think this is a good approach. Namely police officers and bipartisan supporters.

The push to expand police forces to noncitizens is often driven by former officers now serving in state legislatures.

The effort is also strikingly bipartisan. Illinois’ measure cleared the state House on a 100-7 vote
 
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The article mentions people like DACA. It only speculates that people owing cartels "might" happen without any explanation of how people smuggled in illegaly would be granted work visas.
I already posted an excerpt of that portion of the article in Post# 65.
 
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The article mentions those who think this is a good approach. Namely police officers and bipartisan supporters.
That's because the Moonie Times offers balanced reporting, unlike most of these Liberal yellow journalistic "news" outlets.

They present opinions from both sides of an issue. You might want to explore their articles more often. It's quite refreshing.
 
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