Start of a New World War

[TerranceL]

I'm confused as to why people here seem to think that conspiracy theories don't need supporting evidence.

Well, if they had supporting evidence they wouldn't be conspiracy theories.

 

[Caretaker]

Well, I'm still waiting for a reply to my inquiries to the "senior staff" who, I have been told, instructed the mod to move this thread here.

I guess I'll attempt another tack by starting a chat with them in the "Chat with Staff" forum in the "Lounge".

 

[Rick Otto]

Well, if they had supporting evidence they wouldn't be conspiracy theories.

Thanks for trying to explain the difference between theory and fact.

 

[Rick Otto]

We're either talking past each other, there's a language barrier, or a reading comprehension problem. We've all read the article. It is speculative and sensationalist. The facts, or things that could be facts, are unsubstantiated due to a lack references. There is no need to quote the article, which once again we have read. By ignoring this, and not backing up any of the claims the article makes you are further engaging in conspiracy theory behavior.

Welcome to the Conspiracy Theory Forum.
That should solve your comprehension problem, and mitigate your anxiety about speculation and the sensations your having about them.

 

[crjmurray]

Why do you seem to think that a theory doesn't require supporting evidence?

 

[pgp_protector]

I'm looking forward to the next major Global war, hopefully it will bring into effect the wonderful worlds we've been promised by movies like Mad Max or Water World.
I'm not sure which future I would prefer though, While the barren desolate world of Mad Max brings joy to my INTJ heart of not having to deal with people anymore, the clear water of Water World has it's advantages also.

 

[crjmurray]

I'm looking forward to the next major Global war, hopefully it will bring into effect the wonderful worlds we've been promised by movies like Mad Max or Water World.
I'm not sure which future I would prefer though, While the barren desolate world of Mad Max brings joy to my INTJ heart of not having to deal with people anymore, the clear water of Water World has it's advantages also.

It depends on what your life is now. If you're a cop, then Mad Max would work out. If you're a traveling sailor, boom waterworld. Hobo? Fallout. Rich business man? Jetsons.

 

[tatteredsoul]

The next world war will be Muslim vs Christian vs Jewish believers, then MvCvJ VS atheists, pagans, humanists, spiritualist - until all ideologies are exhausted mentally, physically and psychologically. (Of course, there will be devestating war, but that will be quick even with nooks, and that isnt the point.)

Then, a golden age will rise from the ashes and "unite" the world.

It has already been planned a long time ago.

 

[pgp_protector]

It depends on what your life is now. If you're a cop, then Mad Max would work out. If you're a traveling sailor, boom waterworld. Hobo? Fallout. Rich business man? Jetsons.

We might get lucky though, a nice genetically engineered virus and we get a nice Zombie Apocalypse

 

[crjmurray]

We might get lucky though, a nice genetically engineered virus and we get a nice Zombie Apocalypse

That fits my Jack of all trades lifestyle so I'm fine with that.

 

[TerranceL]

Welcome to the Conspiracy Theory Forum.
That should solve your comprehension problem, and mitigate your anxiety about speculation and the sensations your having about them.

You do realize the post you are responding too was made before this thread was moved to this forum right?

 

[Rick Otto]

Why do you seem to think that a theory doesn't require supporting evidence?

Of course it does, but whether or not the evidence is evidence, or that it actually supports the theory, is always arguable.

 

[crjmurray]

Of course it does, but whether or not the evidence is evidence, or that it actually supports the theory, is always arguable.

Oooooh, so the people over here don't know what does and does not constitute evidence. Gotcha.

 

[Rick Otto]

Oooooh, so the people over here don't know what does and does not constitute evidence. Gotcha.

Please.
Don't pretend you haven't seen evidence presented by one party, declared unfit for a standard of evidence by the other.

...homey don't play gotcha.

 

[crjmurray]

Please.
Don't pretend you haven't seen evidence presented by one party, declared unfit for a standard of evidence by the other.

...homey don't play gotcha.

I've seen not-evidence presented as evidence. Kinda like a kid presenting a petrified dog turd as a dinosaur fossil.

 

[Rick Otto]

I've seen not-evidence presented as evidence. Kinda like a kid presenting a petrified dog turd as a dinosaur fossil.

So you you don't just get my point, you are my point.

 

[stephen583]

Here are several reasons why I strongly believe we are definitely headed towards a Third World War in the immediate future (that will likely include at least the limited use of thermo-nuclear weapons). Some of this is based on actual news reports. statements by world leaders, journalists, the Council on Foreign Relations and geo-political experts.. and some of it falls into the category of Conspiracy Theory. You be the judge.

In July 2015 Vladimir Putin threatened to use nuclear weapons against NATO if the West intervened in the civil war in the Ukraine, as reported by all the major news agencies at the time. Take your pick, Reuters, the A.P, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC. Putin also threatened to invade the Baltics as well.

According to a recent book released by Marvin Kalb (a respected geo-political analyst and advisor to the Council on Foreign Relations), Vladimir Putin's stranglehold on Western Europe's supply of Russian natural gas supplies will be broken if the West completes it's cross Mediterranean gas pipeline from the Leviathan natural gas fields of Israel to Turkey.

Since the Russian intervention in Syria, Putin has staged the (nuclear capable) heavy guided missile cruise Moskava and a Typhoon Class nuclear sub in the Eastern Mediterranean very close to these Leviathan gas fields. Might be a coincidence, but I don't think so, and neither does Marvin Kalb.

Kalb goes on to say the Syrian/Iraqi refugee crisis in Western Europe has plunged the E.U. into political chaos. In March 2016 the foreign minister of Belgium announced NATO was not going to intervene on Turkey's behalf, if Russia and Turkey end up going to war over ISIS and Kurdish forces being driven into Turkey by the fighting in Syria and Iraq. If NATO balks at intervening in the Ukraine, Baltics, or Turkey, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would likely collapse overnight according to Kalb.

In June 2016 England will hold a referendum vote to withdraw from the European Union, (dubbed the Britexit vote by the press). This move could precipitate an exodus of European countries from the E.U. and plunge Europe into a period of unparalleled economic "turmoil and disaster", the likes of which have not been seen since the Second World War.

Iran and Hezbollah have also used the situation in Syria and Iraq to send thousands of Iranian Republican Guard troops and Hezbollah fighters into Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Hezbollah in particular has stockpiled nearly a hundred thousand modern Russian missiles on the border of Israel, which will now operate under the protection of Russian fighter aircraft and ECM facilities that are blocking NATO, Israeli and U.S. satellite and drone surveillance.

These aren't the old style short range "kytusha" rockets from the last Lebanon War a decade ago. Hezbollah is now in possession advanced GPS guided, super sonic speed, over the horizon cruise missiles, capable of targeting five Israeli cities, as well as ships in the Israeli port city of Haifa.

What is Israel going to do when Hezbollah rains these missiles down on Israeli territory ?! Go head to head with Russia on the ground and in the air ?! Not likely. Nuke Damascus ?! Way more likely.

Marvin Kalb and other analysts believe Vladimir Putin has positioned himself to take-down NATO, Western Europe and Israel. Kalb believes Putin would be "foolish" not to test NATO and Europe's resolve at this juncture.

In fact, a Russian bomber was shot down a month ago when it flew several miles into Turkish airspace. The French have also reported recently a Russian Typhoon nuclear sub was detected in the Bay of Biscayne off the coast of France. It seems Putin is already testing Europe's and NATO's resolve.

Here comes the Conspiracy Theory Part. Ask yourself why it's so important now (after decades of hostility) for the U.S. to normalize relations with Cuba ?! Don't you find it strange the U.S. can invade Grenada, Panama, Iraq, take out Moumar Kadaffi and Libiya, kill Ben Ladin in Pakistan, but for the last forty years we can't do anything about the Castro regime and Cuba ?!

Do you think our lack of resolve and inaction, as well as our urgent and sudden need to normalize relations with Cuba could have anything to do with any fissible material the Soviets probably left in Cuba when they pulled their missiles out during the Cuban Missile Crisis ??? You think ?!

Now you know one of the best kept secrets of the U.S. government. Cuba has tactical nukes people, and they always have had them. The one thing you don't want, is a nuclear capable hostile country on your doorstep if you are on the verge of a nuclear confrontation with Russia and China. Bad idea.

Now let's look at this thing called Jade Helm 15. Does anybody seriously believe it was a dress rehearsal for a military take-over of the United States ?! Lol. The U.S. Government says it was training combat troops for future deployment overseas.

Why were thousands of elite special forces troops dispersed all over the South Western United States In remote locations, far away from military bases and reservations where combat has always been simulated and combat training conducted in the past ?! Strange way to train troops, huh ?!

The answer is simple. Jade Helm 15 was not about training ground forces for combat deployment overseas. It was however a dress rehearsal, but not for that, or any military take-over either. My sources in the military tell me, it was a dress rehearsal for the dispersal of over a million U.S. ground forces away from military bases that will be targeted in a nuclear conflict.

The elite special forces used in Jade Helm 15 were in fact "pathfinder" units, preparing the ground for hundreds of thousands of follow-on troops that will be dispersed throughout the South Western United States in the case of an imminent nuclear attack. Just look at the radiological fall-out maps, and it's obvious why those special forces troops deployed where they did.

That's also why local and state law enforcement officials and emergency services personnel, as well as Homeland Security personnel took part in Jade Helm 15. Did you know radiological dose pens and meters have been issued to those personnel and agencies ?!

Sorry, but there is no plan to evacuate civilians from U.S. cities. The plan is to contain the civilian population in cities and shelter in place. You can imagine the hysteria and panic, if news of that plan ever got out.

Hence the unbelievable cover story of an impending U.N. invasion, or a martial law military take-over of America, replete with paranoid public objections from the governors of Texas and Colorado. It was all about disinformation and damage control. You can bet, the leaders of China and Russia know "exactly" what Jade Helm 15 was really about.

Given all the signs, (including reports by British intelligence the Saudis are buying nuclear missile warheads from Pakistan right now), I think it's reasonable to assume we are presently about three moves away from checkmate and a Nuclear Apocalypse.

Unfortunately the ex-KGB, Stalinist leader of Russia, sociopath and megalomaniac dictator, (our ally in the War on Terror?, who just announced recently Russia has met all its' goals in that regard), Vladimir Putin... is calling all the shots.

 

[Armoured]

Not only a dime a dozen, but definitely showing how desperate you are!

Why are you trying SO hard to distract from the content? You really are doing yourself a tremendous disservice!

Here's a direct quote from the article:

"Few seem aware that the bikini swimsuit was named to celebrate the nuclear explosions that destroyed Bikini island. Sixty-six nuclear devices were exploded by the United States in the Marshall Islands between 1946 and 1958 — the equivalent of 1.6 Hiroshima bombs every day for 12 years.

"Bikini is silent today, mutated and contaminated. Palm trees grow in a strange grid formation. Nothing moves. There are no birds. The headstones in the old cemetery are alive with radiation. My shoes registered “unsafe” on a Geiger counter."

That's pure and simple fact.

That's very interesting if you care about the history of nuclear testing, or the history of Bikini Atoll.

What's it got to do with the OP?

 

[Armoured]

Here are several reasons why I strongly believe we are definitely headed towards a Third World War in the immediate future (that will likely include at least the limited use of thermo-nuclear weapons). Some of this is based on actual news reports. statements by world leaders, journalists, the Council on Foreign Relations and geo-political experts.. and some of it falls into the category of Conspiracy Theory. You be the judge.

In July 2015 Vladimir Putin threatened to use nuclear weapons against NATO if the West intervened in the civil war in the Ukraine, as reported by all the major news agencies. Putin has also threatened to invade the Baltics as well.

According to a recent book released by Marvin Kalb (a respected geo-political analyst and advisor to the Council on Foreign Relations), Vladimir Putin's stranglehold on Western Europe's supply of Russian natural gas supplies will be broken if the West completes it's cross Mediterranean gas pipeline from the Leviathan natural gas fields of Israel to Turkey. Since the Russian intervention in Syria, Putin has staged the (nuclear capable) heavy guided missile cruise Moskava and a Typhoon Class nuclear sub in the Eastern Mediterranean very close to the Leviathan gas fields.

Kalb goes on to say the Syrian/Iraqi refugee crisis in Western Europe has plunged the E.U. into political chaos. In March 2016 the foreign minister of Belgium announced NATO was not going to intervene on Turkey's behalf, if Russia and Turkey end up going to war over ISIS and Kurdish forces being driven into Turkey by the fighting in Syria and Iraq. If NATO balks at intervening in the Ukraine, Baltics, or Turkey, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would likely collapse overnight.

In June 2016 England will hold a referendum vote to withdraw from the European Union, (dubbed the Britexit vote by the press). This move could precipitate an exodus of European countries from the E.U. and plunge Europe into a period of unparalleled economic turmoil and disaster. Europe has not seen this scale of political uncertainty and instability since the Second World War.

Iran and Hezbollah have also used the situation in Syria and Iraq to send thousands of Iranian Republican Guard troops and Hezbollah fighters into Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Hezbollah in particular has stockpiled nearly a 100 thousand modern Russian missiles on the border of Israel, which will now operate under the protection of Russian fighter aircraft and ECM facilities capable of blocking NATO, Israeli and U.S. satellite and drone surveillance.

These aren't the old style short range "kytusha" rockets from the last Lebanon War a decade ago. Hezbollah is now in possession advanced GPS guided, super sonic speed, over the horizon cruise missiles, capable of targeting five Israeli cities, as well as ships in the Israeli port city of Haifa. What is Israel going to do when Hezbollah rains these missiles down on Israeli territory ?! Go head to head with Russia ?! Nuke Damascus ?!

Kalb and other analysts believe Vladimir Putin has positioned himself to take-down NATO, Western Europe and Israel. Marvin Kalb believes Putin would be "foolish" not to test NATO and Europe's resolve at this juncture. In fact, a Russian bomber was shot down a month ago when it flew several miles into Turkish airspace. The French have also reported recently a Russian Typhoon nuclear sub was detected in the Bay of Biscayne off the coast of France. It seems Putin is already testing Europe's resolve.

Here comes the Conspiracy Theory Part. Ask yourself why it's so important now (after decades of hostility) for the U.S. to normalize relations with Cuba ?! Don't you find it strange the U.S. can invade Grenada, Panama, Iraq, take out Moumar Kadaffi and Libiya, but for the last forty years we can't do anything about the Castro regime and Cuba ?! Do you think our lack of resolve and inaction, as well as our urgent and sudden need to normalize relations with Cuba could have anything to do with any fissible material the Soviets probably left in Cuba when they pulled their missiles out during the Cuban Missile Crisis ???

Now you know one of the best kept secrets of the U.S. government. Cuba has tactical nukes people, and they always have had them. The one thing you don't want, is a nuclear capable hostile country on your doorstep if you are on the verge of a nuclear confrontation with Russia and China.

Now let's look at this thing called Jade Helm 15. Does anybody seriously believe it was a dress rehearsal for a military take-over of the United States ?! Lol. The U.S. Government says it was training combat troops for possible deployment overseas. Why were thousands of special forces troops dispersed all over the South Western United States In remote locations, far away from military bases and reservations where combat has always been simulated and training conducted in the past ???

The answer is simple. Jade Helm 15 was not about training ground forces for combat deployment overseas. It was however a dress rehearsal, but not for that, or any military take-over. My sources in the military tell me, it was a dress rehearsal for the dispersal of over a million U.S. ground forces away from military bases that will be targeted in a nuclear attack. The elite special forces used in Jade Helm 15 were in fact "pathfinder" units, preparing the ground for hundreds of thousands of follow-on troops.

That's also why local and state law enforcement officers and emergency services personnel, as well as Homeland Security personnel took part in Jade Helm 15. Did you know radiological dose pens and meters have been issued to these personnel and agencies ?! There is no plan to evacuate civilians from U.S. cities. The plan is to contain the civilian population in cities and shelter in place. You can imagine the hysteria and panic, if news of that plan ever got out.

Hence the unbelievable cover story of an impending U.N. invasion, or a martial law military take-over of America, replete with paranoid public statements from the governors of Texas and Colorado. It was all about disinformation and damage control. You can bet, the leaders of China and Russia know "exactly" what Jade Helm 15 was really about.

Given all these signs, (including reports by British intelligence the Saudis are buying nuclear missile warheads from Pakistan right now), I think it's reasonable to assume we are about three moves away from checkmate and a Nuclear Apocalypse.

Ooh, we haven't had a good Jade Helm post in a while!

 

[Caretaker]

Here are several reasons why I strongly believe we are definitely headed towards a Third World War in the immediate future (that will likely include at least the limited use of thermo-nuclear weapons). Some of this is based on actual news reports. statements by world leaders, journalists, the Council on Foreign Relations and geo-political experts.. and some of it falls into the category of Conspiracy Theory. You be the judge.

In July 2015 Vladimir Putin threatened to use nuclear weapons against NATO if the West intervened in the civil war in the Ukraine, as reported by all the major news agencies at the time. Take your pick, Reuters, the A.P, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC. Putin also threatened to invade the Baltics as well.

According to a recent book released by Marvin Kalb (a respected geo-political analyst and advisor to the Council on Foreign Relations), Vladimir Putin's stranglehold on Western Europe's supply of Russian natural gas supplies will be broken if the West completes it's cross Mediterranean gas pipeline from the Leviathan natural gas fields of Israel to Turkey.

Since the Russian intervention in Syria, Putin has staged the (nuclear capable) heavy guided missile cruise Moskava and a Typhoon Class nuclear sub in the Eastern Mediterranean very close to these Leviathan gas fields. Might be a coincidence, but I don't think so, and neither does Marvin Kalb.

Kalb goes on to say the Syrian/Iraqi refugee crisis in Western Europe has plunged the E.U. into political chaos. In March 2016 the foreign minister of Belgium announced NATO was not going to intervene on Turkey's behalf, if Russia and Turkey end up going to war over ISIS and Kurdish forces being driven into Turkey by the fighting in Syria and Iraq. If NATO balks at intervening in the Ukraine, Baltics, or Turkey, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would likely collapse overnight according to Kalb.

In June 2016 England will hold a referendum vote to withdraw from the European Union, (dubbed the Britexit vote by the press). This move could precipitate an exodus of European countries from the E.U. and plunge Europe into a period of unparalleled economic "turmoil and disaster", the likes of which have not been seen since the Second World War.

Iran and Hezbollah have also used the situation in Syria and Iraq to send thousands of Iranian Republican Guard troops and Hezbollah fighters into Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Hezbollah in particular has stockpiled nearly a hundred thousand modern Russian missiles on the border of Israel, which will now operate under the protection of Russian fighter aircraft and ECM facilities that are blocking NATO, Israeli and U.S. satellite and drone surveillance.

These aren't the old style short range "kytusha" rockets from the last Lebanon War a decade ago. Hezbollah is now in possession advanced GPS guided, super sonic speed, over the horizon cruise missiles, capable of targeting five Israeli cities, as well as ships in the Israeli port city of Haifa.

What is Israel going to do when Hezbollah rains these missiles down on Israeli territory ?! Go head to head with Russia on the ground and in the air ?! Not likely. Nuke Damascus ?! Way more likely.

Marvin Kalb and other analysts believe Vladimir Putin has positioned himself to take-down NATO, Western Europe and Israel. Kalb believes Putin would be "foolish" not to test NATO and Europe's resolve at this juncture.

In fact, a Russian bomber was shot down a month ago when it flew several miles into Turkish airspace. The French have also reported recently a Russian Typhoon nuclear sub was detected in the Bay of Biscayne off the coast of France. It seems Putin is already testing Europe's and NATO's resolve.

Here comes the Conspiracy Theory Part. Ask yourself why it's so important now (after decades of hostility) for the U.S. to normalize relations with Cuba ?! Don't you find it strange the U.S. can invade Grenada, Panama, Iraq, take out Moumar Kadaffi and Libiya, kill Ben Ladin in Pakistan, but for the last forty years we can't do anything about the Castro regime and Cuba ?!

Do you think our lack of resolve and inaction, as well as our urgent and sudden need to normalize relations with Cuba could have anything to do with any fissible material the Soviets probably left in Cuba when they pulled their missiles out during the Cuban Missile Crisis ??? You think ?!

Now you know one of the best kept secrets of the U.S. government. Cuba has tactical nukes people, and they always have had them. The one thing you don't want, is a nuclear capable hostile country on your doorstep if you are on the verge of a nuclear confrontation with Russia and China. Bad idea.

Now let's look at this thing called Jade Helm 15. Does anybody seriously believe it was a dress rehearsal for a military take-over of the United States ?! Lol. The U.S. Government says it was training combat troops for future deployment overseas.

Why were thousands of elite special forces troops dispersed all over the South Western United States In remote locations, far away from military bases and reservations where combat has always been simulated and combat training conducted in the past ?! Strange way to train troops, huh ?!

The answer is simple. Jade Helm 15 was not about training ground forces for combat deployment overseas. It was however a dress rehearsal, but not for that, or any military take-over either. My sources in the military tell me, it was a dress rehearsal for the dispersal of over a million U.S. ground forces away from military bases that will be targeted in a nuclear conflict.

The elite special forces used in Jade Helm 15 were in fact "pathfinder" units, preparing the ground for hundreds of thousands of follow-on troops that will be dispersed throughout the South Western United States in the case of an imminent nuclear attack. Just look at the radiological fall-out maps, and it's obvious why those special forces troops deployed where they did.

That's also why local and state law enforcement officials and emergency services personnel, as well as Homeland Security personnel took part in Jade Helm 15. Did you know radiological dose pens and meters have been issued to those personnel and agencies ?!

Sorry, but there is no plan to evacuate civilians from U.S. cities. The plan is to contain the civilian population in cities and shelter in place. You can imagine the hysteria and panic, if news of that plan ever got out.

Hence the unbelievable cover story of an impending U.N. invasion, or a martial law military take-over of America, replete with paranoid public objections from the governors of Texas and Colorado. It was all about disinformation and damage control. You can bet, the leaders of China and Russia know "exactly" what Jade Helm 15 was really about.

Given all the signs, (including reports by British intelligence the Saudis are buying nuclear missile warheads from Pakistan right now), I think it's reasonable to assume we are presently about three moves away from checkmate and a Nuclear Apocalypse.

Unfortunately the ex-KGB, Stalinist leader of Russia, sociopath and megalomaniac dictator, (our ally in the War on Terror?, who just announced recently Russia has met all its' goals in that regard), Vladimir Putin... is calling all the shots.

The propagandists are working overtime to try to inflame people to fear and hate Russia.

That was pointed out by the writers in the OP and the other posts I cited. The above quoted post simply reinforces what they said.

Except for more recently in the mideast, the US has virtually always goaded, connived, and provoked the object of its aggression to attack first, or failing that, to invent an attack that never occurred (i.e., the Gulf of Tonkin). More recently in the mideast and the Ukraine the US has attempted flat out lies (Iraq is targeting the US with WMD's, Syria is using nerve gas on its own people, a "popular uprising" overthrew the democratically elected government in the Ukraine) to cover its aggression.

Yes, this will end badly, no doubt. But the protagonist here is not Putin but the neocons who are still trying to use the US military, covert operations, and political double dealing and inrigue to establish themselves as the undisputed rulers of the world.

There is no "conspiracy theory" here. They set out their plans for all to see in their "Plan for the New American Century", including the need for a "new Pearl Harbor". Were they responsible for 9/11? Even that is more of a serious question than a conspiracy theory.

Brave New World is alive and well on the Christian Forums where the powers that be attempt to denigrate serious discussion of serious issues by relegating such discussion to a "conspiracy theories" forum.

That's not good. Not good at all.