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Do you have any other sources besides this that are making similar claims?

In reading this, and some other articles they have, it smells of "hype news" and "scare media"

Some of the their books they're selling on the website also seem as if they'd fall into the "conspiracy theory" genre...
 
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Do you have any other sources besides this that are making similar claims?

In reading this, and some other articles they have, it smells of "hype news" and "scare media"

Some of the their books they're selling on the website also seem as if they'd fall into the "conspiracy theory" genre...

Hmmmm... sounds like what you're attempting to do is counter the rational arguments of the author with vague attempts to cast doubt on the author's credibility. Why not just address directly what the author has to say?

Seems to me you only bring suspicion upon yourself and your own motives when you make such vague and baseless comments about the author.
 
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Hmmmm... sounds like what you're attempting to do is counter the rational arguments of the author with vague attempts to cast doubt on the author's credibility. Why not just address directly what the author has to say?

Seems to me you only bring suspicion upon yourself and your own motives when you make such vague and baseless comments about the author.

The author raises doubts for the same reason I'd have doubts about someone like Jim Marrs or Alex Jones making these sorts of claims.

When they're the only ones making the claim, and I can't find another single reputable media source making that claim, there's nothing really to address other than simply saying that I don't feel what the author's saying is true and it sounds like conspiracy theories to me, personally.
 
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The author raises doubts for the same reason I'd have doubts about someone like Jim Marrs or Alex Jones making these sorts of claims.

When they're the only ones making the claim, and I can't find another single reputable media source making that claim, there's nothing really to address other than simply saying that I don't feel what the author's saying is true and it sounds like conspiracy theories to me, personally.

I'm so sorry you can't seem to comprehend how badly you're damaging yourself!

I encourage you to make the attempt to salvage your reputation by addressing the content of the author's article.
 
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I'm so sorry you can't seem to comprehend how badly you're damaging yourself!

I encourage you to make the attempt to salvage your reputation by addressing the content of the author's article.

I already did...

The author thinks that another world war is coming...I don't believe them. What else is there to say? According to this article, Hillary, Trump, Obama (and even Bernie) are part of a massive conspiracy (and of course, the author has to throw in the bit about "the Israel lobby"...which is a dead giveaway)

I'm damaging myself because I don't believe what one particular author (that you happen to agree with) says??? lol

Do you honestly believe this stuff?

You do realize this is the same kind of stuff you can find here right?:
http://www.infowars.com/
 
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I'm so sorry you can't seem to comprehend how badly you're damaging yourself!

I encourage you to make the attempt to salvage your reputation by addressing the content of the author's article.
His reputation is fine, he's not the one who posted someone who reads like Alex Jones.
 
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(and of course, the author has to throw in the bit about "the Israel lobby"...which is a dead giveaway)

It's always the jews.

No doubt we'll be reading about the blood libel soon.
 
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I already did...

The author thinks that another world war is coming...I don't believe them. What else is there to say? According to this article, Hillary, Trump, Obama (and even Bernie) are part of a massive conspiracy (and of course, the author has to throw in the bit about "the Israel lobby"...which is a dead giveaway)

I'm damaging myself because I don't believe what one particular author (that you happen to agree with) says??? lol

Do you honestly believe this stuff?

You do realize this is the same kind of stuff you can find here right?:
http://www.infowars.com/

Too bad! You're stuck in the world of imagining that character assassination works. That's a mean and nasty place to be. Obviously you have not addressed the content of the article because you can't detract from it directly, so you attempt to discredit the author with vague accusations. Sorry, but your credibility with me is shot.
 
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By John Pilger

To pilger - To present information in a sensationalist manner to reach a foregone conclusion.

So we can categorize this here.

http://www.christianforums.com/forums/conspiracy-theories.1225/

Not only a dime a dozen, but definitely showing how desperate you are!

Why are you trying SO hard to distract from the content? You really are doing yourself a tremendous disservice!

Here's a direct quote from the article:

"Few seem aware that the bikini swimsuit was named to celebrate the nuclear explosions that destroyed Bikini island. Sixty-six nuclear devices were exploded by the United States in the Marshall Islands between 1946 and 1958 — the equivalent of 1.6 Hiroshima bombs every day for 12 years.

"Bikini is silent today, mutated and contaminated. Palm trees grow in a strange grid formation. Nothing moves. There are no birds. The headstones in the old cemetery are alive with radiation. My shoes registered “unsafe” on a Geiger counter."

That's pure and simple fact.
 
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Not only a dime a dozen, but definitely showing how desperate you are!

Why are you trying SO hard to distract from the content? You really are doing yourself a tremendous disservice!

Here's a direct quote from the article:

"Few seem aware that the bikini swimsuit was named to celebrate the nuclear explosions that destroyed Bikini island. Sixty-six nuclear devices were exploded by the United States in the Marshall Islands between 1946 and 1958 — the equivalent of 1.6 Hiroshima bombs every day for 12 years.

"Bikini is silent today, mutated and contaminated. Palm trees grow in a strange grid formation. Nothing moves. There are no birds. The headstones in the old cemetery are alive with radiation. My shoes registered “unsafe” on a Geiger counter."

That's pure and simple fact.

Are you.....are you gloating because you found a fact in your article? That's not having the effect you think it is. Your post belongs in the conspiracy theory forum for the same reason the rest are there. It's speculation and sensationalism, not news or current events.
 
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Are you.....are you gloating because you found a fact in your article? That's not having the effect you think it is. Your post belongs in the conspiracy theory forum for the same reason the rest are there. It's speculation and sensationalism, not news or current events.

More fact from the article:

"The Obama administration has built more nuclear weapons, more nuclear warheads, more nuclear delivery systems, more nuclear factories. Nuclear warhead spending alone rose higher under Obama than under any American president. The cost over 30 years is more than $1 trillion.

"A mini nuclear bomb is planned. It is known as the B61 Model 12. There has never been anything like it. General James Cartwright, a former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said, “Going smaller [makes using this nuclear] weapon more thinkable.”
 
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More fact from the article:

"A mini nuclear bomb is planned. It is known as the B61 Model 12. There has never been anything like it. General James Cartwright, a former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said, “Going smaller [makes using this nuclear] weapon more thinkable.”

"In the last 18 months, the greatest build-up of military forces since World War Two — led by the United States — is taking place along Russia’s western frontier. Not since Hitler invaded the Soviet Union have foreign troops presented such a demonstrable threat to Russia."

With no references given.
 
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With no references given.

More facts from the article:

"In the last 18 months, the greatest build-up of military forces since World War Two — led by the United States — is taking place along Russia’s western frontier. Not since Hitler invaded the Soviet Union have foreign troops presented such a demonstrable threat to Russia.

"Ukraine – once part of the Soviet Union – has become a CIA theme park. Having orchestrated a coup in Kiev, Washington effectively controls a regime that is next door and hostile to Russia: a regime rotten with Nazis, literally. Prominent parliamentary figures in Ukraine are the political descendants of the notorious OUN and UPA fascists. They openly praise Hitler and call for the persecution and expulsion of the Russian-speaking minority."
 
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More facts from the article:

"In the last 18 months, the greatest build-up of military forces since World War Two — led by the United States — is taking place along Russia’s western frontier. Not since Hitler invaded the Soviet Union have foreign troops presented such a demonstrable threat to Russia.

"Ukraine – once part of the Soviet Union – has become a CIA theme park. Having orchestrated a coup in Kiev, Washington effectively controls a regime that is next door and hostile to Russia: a regime rotten with Nazis, literally. Prominent parliamentary figures in Ukraine are the political descendants of the notorious OUN and UPA fascists. They openly praise Hitler and call for the persecution and expulsion of the Russian-speaking minority."

The references still aren't there. And your second quote sounds speculative.
 
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The references still aren't there. And your second quote sounds speculative.

More facts from the article:

"I made a film called The War You Don’t See, in which I interviewed distinguished journalists in America and Britain: reporters such as Dan Rather of CBS, Rageh Omar of the BBC, David Rose of the Observer.

"All of them said that had journalists and broadcasters done their job and questioned the propaganda that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction; had the lies of George W. Bush and Tony Blair not been amplified and echoed by journalists, the 2003 invasion of Iraq might not have happened, and hundreds of thousands of men, women and children would be alive today."
 
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