Star of Bethlehem

[Brain Damage]

This is not just a question...it is also a puzzle for those who want to test their bible skills .

 

Who sent the star that led the three wise men to baby jesus..was the star sent by God or was it sent by Satan .

The story can be found in : Matthew 2

Have fun !   

 

[Evee]

Hey this is a trick question. I believe it to be astrologers. Matt. never told who sent it did it? Evee

 

[Brain Damage]

No..it's not a trick question Evee , I also believe they were astrologers .
A lot of people believe the star was sent by God..I was hoping to prove otherwise , but unfortunately no one seems interested .
You see...those three guys ended up at herods place and not Bethlehem , why ?.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Originally posted by Brain Damage
This is not just a question...it is also a puzzle for those who want to test their bible skills .

 

Who sent the star that led the three wise men to baby jesus..was the star sent by God or was it sent by Satan .

The story can be found in : Matthew 2

Have fun !   

Maybe Satan? The star was sent to guide the wise men to Jesus at Herod's bidding.
God interfered with Satan's plans and sent warning through dreams and the angel.
Interesting Brain. I never looked at it that way.

 

[Evee]

They knew where to go since they had something to do with the star anyway.
Don't give up maybe people haven't seen the thread yet.
I just discovered it myself.
Yes I believe it was the Astrologers. Evee

 

[Evee]

Satan told the astrologers yes that makes sense.
Satan told them and that is how they knew.
That is better yet.
What do you think Brain Damage? Evee

 

[Annabel Lee]

I don't know. I'm confused as usual.

 

[Brain Damage]

Well the star dissapears from their sight when they get to jerusalem...and yet it never took them directly to Bethlehem .
So if you were in jerusalem and looking for a child to be born a king...where would you go ?

 

[Evee]

I get so fuzzy when I get tired!

 Hey it is almost 2 am here. Evee

 

[Annabel Lee]

Originally posted by Brain Damage
Well the star dissapears from their sight when they get to jerusalem...and yet it never took them directly to Bethlehem .
So if you were in jerusalem and looking for a child to be born a king...where would you go ?

To the King's palace. King Herod.
I'm getting fuzzy too and it's not even 11 pm here.
Goodnight all.

 

[T-roi]

Hi guys,

strange topic you have here. May I play devil's advocate? First in verse 2 the Magi, after arriving in Jerusalem, begin asking "where is the one born king" and verse three says Herod "heard this he was disturbed". Wouldn't that be an obvious move on the part of the Magi. They see a star and (only God knows how) they know that the star means that a king has been born to rule the Jews. Wouldn't it only make sense to go to Herod and see "his new child". That is probably what they expected. I will guarantee they never expected the child to be the son of God and to be in a stable lying in a feeding trough in the tiny town of Bethlehem!!! Maybe it was customary for men of status from foreign countries to greet the King of a land they were visiting or passing through?

One point on your side, verse 9 says that as they left Herod the star "went ahead of them". Does anyone know how a star goes ahead of you? Think of the physics required in that! Then it stops (???) over the place where the baby was? If it moved ahead of them when they left Herod maybe, as you were saying, it was over Herod originally thus leading them to him! If that is true... then why would satan have a star leading strange men from the east to Jerusalem? What is the motive here? What does he stand to gain?

Don't keep us in suspense too long Brain Damage!!!

 

[Brain Damage]

Originally posted by Evee
I get so fuzzy when I get tired!

 Hey it is almost 2 am here. Evee

If you think your fuzzy now Evee...try reading the story ,  you will be totaly fuzzed out .  

 

[Brain Damage]

Originally posted by T-roi
Hi guys,

strange topic you have here. May I play devil's advocate? First in verse 2 the Magi, after arriving in Jerusalem, begin asking "where is the one born king" and verse three says Herod "heard this he was disturbed". Wouldn't that be an obvious move on the part of the Magi. They see a star and (only God knows how) they know that the star means that a king has been born to rule the Jews. Wouldn't it only make sense to go to Herod and see "his new child". That is probably what they expected. I will guarantee they never expected the child to be the son of God and to be in a stable lying in a feeding trough in the tiny town of Bethlehem!!! Maybe it was customary for men of status from foreign countries to greet the King of a land they were visiting or passing through?

One point on your side, verse 9 says that as they left Herod the star "went ahead of them". Does anyone know how a star goes ahead of you? Think of the physics required in that! Then it stops (???) over the place where the baby was? If it moved ahead of them when they left Herod maybe, as you were saying, it was over Herod originally thus leading them to him! If that is true... then why would satan have a star leading strange men from the east to Jerusalem? What is the motive here? What does he stand to gain?

Don't keep us in suspense too long Brain Damage!!!

 

You have made some good points there  T-roi ,  but the bottom line is...why didn't the star lead them directly to Bethlehem ?

I gota get off line too , it's dinner time .  ( "I'll be back" )

 

[Evee]

Night folks see you tomorrow.
I am in for a few winks now. Evee

 

[Brain Damage]

Quote T-roi

One point on your side, verse 9 says that as they left Herod the star "went ahead of them". Does anyone know how a star goes ahead of you? Think of the physics required in that! Then it stops (???) over the place where the baby was? If it moved ahead of them when they left Herod maybe, as you were saying, it was over Herod originally thus leading them to him! If that is true... then why would satan have a star leading strange men from the east to Jerusalem? What is the motive here? What does he stand to gain?


If the star had led those three guys directly to Bethlehem...then jesus life would not have been in danger , however...in a round about way it led them to Herod who then set out to destroy the child and thus fulfilling Satans motive of wanting to kill the child .


Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.


It is believed that those three guys came from either Iraq or Iran and were dabbling in Astrology...and we all know that God forbids the use of astrology , and so those three guys became the tools of Satan .
I believe the reason God allowed these men to visit his son was because they came to worship him...not harm him .

 

[stumpsitting101]

Hi Brain D:
As always, you have posed a different look for us to consider. You have not let us down in this respect. I had to go back and reread this passage to refresh my mind, and I couldn't find any implication of the Wise Men following the "Star" from their homeland to Jerusalem. I do agree with one of the above mentioned post that if you knew that the first appearing of the "Star" meant that a king of Israel had been born, one would naturally think of the Capital City, These Wise Men, if they were the same sect from Iran/Iraq, were known to believe in only one creative god, whereas most of the world at that time believed in many gods. (this information May Help some?) There is an indication that the "Star" reappeared to the Wise Men upon their leaving the king and Jerusalem. I 'm thrilled you pointed out that now the "Star" was able to move about and able to lead, didn't seem to be fixed in the sky at this time. May have been the glory of a Heavenly Host....?? I can't say for sure, just my hunch. No, personally, I don't think the Star was sent by Satan. One also must remember that the slaughter of the Babies during this time, was a fulfillment of an old prophecy. I do believe that Satan tried to kill Jesus while Jesus was a baby, but I do not believe Satan led the Wise Men to Jesus. Satan could have just as easily led the religious leaders of Jerusalem to the baby. It seems that only those who were anticipating something to happen got to see something happen in their lives. I also agree with you that the Wise Men intentions was to worship the babe, who we know as Jesus.
It also shows me that Satan don't know everything.
Thanks Brain, A Good Post.
Blessings
Ken