Standing by the bible

[Stjernkvist]

I wouldn't call me a conservative christian, more a fundamental-person (fundamental for me = faith built through basic foundation bible faithful Christianity) which makes it hard for me to deal with some fundamental principles like marriage, same-sex-relations and so on. My mom who is also a christian is way, way, WAY more liberal than me (all this HTBQ it called in sweden Homo, bi, Trans, queer-sexual stuff). and she simple just deals with me like "well you are more right wing-christian than me" when we get in to the discussions. that make me even more upset and mad inside because it's not about politics and "statements" like that. I base my believes on what i read in the bible, which i do believe is flawless divine words from our LORD written by man. so I do wounder sometimes, what does she really believe in? if a christian do not accept the bible as absolute truth , how do they know what they believe in? "i believe what ever feels right" but if a other christian goes against that "right feeling" fore one because it feel right for him. who is right? both? this makes me so extremely sad how a person can act against what is word of GOD. I am not a saint but i am mostly aware of my sin and try to repent. but i just cant understand these kind of people, GOD may forgive me if i am judging but, i just cant... are they "really saved" because i know one day i will stand before judgement seat of Christ and he will judge me for every action and MOTIVE.

Anyone else that have been here? close family/friends who is "liberal" and just ignores the bible even tho they call them self Christians?

 

[miamited]

Hi stjernkvist,

Sure, and Jesus has given us fair warning that such would be the case.

But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven. "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn " 'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-- a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[createdtol0ve]

It would not be my place to speculate whether a person is saved or not. I definitely feel that there are many people who appear to be lukewarm Christians or don't feel the need to follow the Bible in its entirety.

However, I try daily to just focus on myself and my walk. As I am strengthened in a certain area or if I feel moved to say something to someone else, it will be to encourage them to live more in alignment with God's will. We are all on different parts of our journey. Our convictions will differ. God will be working on different areas in different people.

So as believers in the Bible, let's just remember to speak the truth in love.

What comes to mind is Francis Chan's book, "Crazy Love," which really challenges Christians to assess their walk and to seek to follow Christ completely.

 

[Sketcher]

Yes, unfortunately. I even have one that went to a very liberal "seminary" that basically enabled her further.

I believe it is important to act with grace to them without compromising your stand. As in, don't be the first to get mad and frustrated. Don't be the bad guy in the conversation. This means practicing James 1:19. Also, take what they give you. By this, I mean that these people tend to make accusations against those who believe what you do, and present weak arguments for their stances. By committing these errors, they have proven that they don't know everything, and have presented you with an opportunity to debunk their argument. You can call them out on hypocrisy and contradictions, they're full of them, but do so indirectly if possible so you won't seem to be attacking them, but their argument.

 

[saintandrew4life]

keep reading your Bible

 

[LilLamb219]

We're all still being molded by God and He continues to teach us by His Word. Unless people outright reject the Christ, I wouldn't question their salvation. I would question their doctrine...sometimes only in my head.

 

[chapmic]

I think its good that you brought this up and I would continue having these conversations. Begin by asking your Mom this question, would you make a cookbook with Recipes and ingredients you don't use or don't think is necessary? Give her a moment to think about it and then ask do you God the perfect Father would allow his book to be flawed? Sometimes parables are the best way to reach someone. I hope everything goes well, God bless!

 

[Emmy]

Dear Stjernkvist. I like what you said about Jesus: Jesus died for me now I live for Jesus. What does Jesus want from us? He told us in
Matthew 22: 35-40: " First and great Commandment is: Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. The second is like it: Love our neighbour as we love ourselves." Jesus does point out: On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. Love is very important to God and Jesus. God our Heavenly Father wants loving sons and daughters
In Matthew 7: 7-10: we are told: " ask and you shall receive," then we thank God and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour, all we know and all we meet. We keep asking for Love and Joy, then thank God and share all with our neighbour. God sees our loving efforts to follow these two Commandments, and God approves and blesses us.
The Bible tells us: " Repent and be Born Again," we are getting rid of our selfish wishes and wants, and change into loving and caring men and women.
Love is very catching, and God will approve and bless us. We might stumble and forget some times, but then we ask God to forgive us, and carry on loving and caring. Jesus our Saviour will help and guide us; JESUS IS THE WAY.
We might stumble and forget, but then we ask God to forgive us, and carry on loving and caring, Jesus will lead us aright. I say this with love, Stjernkwist.
Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

 

[JimmyH]

In his introduction to "Studies In The Sermon On The Mount" Reverend D.Martyn Lloyd-Jones starts out by saying that,

"There is nothing more important in the Christian life than the way in which we approach the Bible and the way in which we read it. It is our textbook, it is our only source, it is our only authority.

We know nothing about God and about the Christian life in a true sense apart from the Bible. We can draw various deductions from nature (and possibly from various mystical experiences) by which we can arrive at a belief in a supreme Creator. But I think it is agreed by most Christians and it has been traditional throughout the long history of the Church that we have no authority save this Book.

We cannot rely solely upon subjective experiences because there are evil spirits as well as good spirits' there are counterfeit experiences. Here, in the Bible is our sole authority."

Without the Bible I think we would have a god of our imagination, rather than a God of our understanding. Pray for your Mom that she is led by the Spirit to embrace the Scriptures.

 

[miamited]

Hi stjernkvist.

I would also add that I have exactly the same relationship with my mother. We have, sadly, both learned that Scriptural beliefs and understandings are things that we're better off not discussing if we want to get along. As I mentioned in my first post, I believe that Jesus gave us fair warning that faith in him and belief in the things of God, is likely to make our enemies those of our own household. A part of me wants to believe that she knows the truth, but the more I develop my relationship with my Creator, the more I'm concerned for her that she doesn't.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted