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Oblio said:
Pink Floyd did it on The Wall. Hardly satanic either. The whole backmasking paranoia is tilting at windmills.

Being a guitarist and songwriter, I can appreciate the talent of folks such as Gilmour and Waters.. although I remember reading the lyrics from the Animals record and seeing that the song Sheep seemed to make a mockery of the 23rd Psalm..

I guess it's just the world.. completely blind to the things of Christ.. of His love and grace to us sinners.

 
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I'm a Fundamental Christian and a Led Zeppelin fan. I don't think their songs are pagan or Satanic. I think Jimmy is probably the best guitarist in rock and Robert Plant loves history and Lord of the Rings. Robert has stated the lyrics for both Battle and Stairway are based on those books and Celtic/ British history. It's really not anything more than that. While many feel Stairway is the "greatest and best song in the world" (Tenacious D reference) I find Kashmir to be what I consider the best rock song ever.
 
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theend0218 said:
A really interesting topic and responses. I must confess to being one who can find spiritual meaning in many "rock" songs. I think it is just a simple fact that most people search for meaning, and many of those involved in rock music have been exposed to a lot of Christian influences. You can find this in a lot of Southern bands,l for example. The Black Crowes are one such band.

Even Nine Inch Nails (a one man band if ever there was one) drifts into the spiritual at times - and I doubt any one would say his songs were given to him by an Angel. Who knows.

While we are on the subject, how about Tool's latest effort? I think it is an extremely spiritual CD. Many fans gave up on it before they really learned to listen to it - I can't get enough of it. To each his own, I guess.

There is alot of Christian influnence in the South and therefore Southern Rock/Blues. Since Blues influenced rock it only makes sence for there to be Christian references and themes in both types of music. Though I don't care much for Ozzy as a person his music has always had referenced to good and evil, Heaven and Hell. Of course many rock stars have substance issues that come out as a good/evil stuggle too. I have always said of Blues that if Gospel is telling God what you have done right in the hopes of gettin to Heaven then Blues is telling God what you have done wrong in the hopes of not going to Hell.
 
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Being a guitarist and songwriter, I can appreciate the talent of folks such as Gilmour and Waters.. although I remember reading the lyrics from the Animals record and seeing that the song Sheep seemed to make a mockery of the 23rd Psalm..

Don't forget Syd Barrett :)

There was also the song Take up thy Stethescope and Walk which may be a bit over the top for a title.
 
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Celticflower said:
Backmasking (hidden messages recorded backwards in lyrics or between tracks on an lp) is in most cases an urban myth or a bizarre coincidence. Usually you will only hear the "message" if you have been told before hand what to listen for. When you consider that in the recording studio time is money, the extra time it takes to record something backwards, or to make sure that the vocal combinations recorded forwards result in the desired message when played in reverse,or that the frequencies of the original recording do not cancel out the backward portion, is not financially feasable. Also you have the problem of being sure that the message will get spun backwards at the correct speed to insure the message is being heard correctly.

I know of only one instance of a message being recorded backwards on purpose. The name of the band escapes me, but in the normally blank space after the last band of recording on an lp they recorded words to the effect that people who believe in backward messages on albums are fools.

Celt (who trained in a recording studio)
Pink Floyd did it on The Wall near the end of the first side of the second LP. If you play it backwards it says to write to Pink at some address which is completely indecipherable. When you play it forwards it is EXTREMELY obvious that there is faint backwards speech. None of the other backmasking claims I've heard of have any obvious backwards sounding speech in them.
 
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I find Kashmir to be what I consider the best rock song ever.
Achilles Last stand is the greatest Rock and Roll song ever recorded.
Pink Floyd did it on The Wall near the end of the first side of the second LP. If you play it backwards it says to write to Pink at some address which is completely indecipherable. When you play it forwards it is EXTREMELY obvious that there is faint backwards speech. None of the other backmasking claims I've heard of have any obvious backwards sounding speech in them.


congratulations. You've just discovered the secret message. Please send your answer to Old Pink, care of the funny farm, Chalfont.
 
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