St Peter

[Kristos]

Simon, Peter

Born in Bethsaida in Galilee, he was a fisherman and was named by Jesus Christ "Cephas" (in Greek, Peter), and called to be a fisher of men, an Apostle. In all lists of the Twelve he is named first, and belonged to the inner group of Apostles. He was present at the Transfiguration and at the Agony of Christ. When he professed his belief that Jesus is the Christ, the Lord promised that "Thou art Peter and on this rock will I build My Church". Peter's confession of faith was soon followed by a sharp rebuke, from the Lord. Peter said that he would never leave his Lord, and was answered by the prediction of his triple denial, which later took place. Later, Peter made reparation for his triple denial by a triple protestation of love.
After the Ascension, Peter took the leadership of the Apostles. He spoke on the day of Pentecost and was the first to perform a miracle in the name of Jesus. He accepted Cornelius for baptism and thus opened the Church to the Gentiles. His authority is evident at the Apostles' Council at Jerusalem, although Paul rebuked him for giving in to the demands of the Jewish Christians to disassociate himself from the Gentiles.
Peter is the founder of the Church in Antioch. He probably went to Rome and was crucified head downward during the reign of Nero (54-68).

 

[Kristos]

 

[Angel of God]

He is the rock of Christ...!!!
Without the rock... nobody, from S.Thomas... to S.James the minor, goes in Heaven...

 

[Catholic Christian]

He is the rock of Christ...!!!
Without the rock... nobody, from S.Thomas... to S.James the minor, goes in Heaven...

Wow. I like this thread

 

[simonthezealot]

He is the rock of Christ...!!!
Without the rock... nobody, from S.Thomas... to S.James the minor, goes in Heaven...

What's this mean?

 

[Catholic Christian]

What's this mean?

...that you're in trouble? LOL

 

[k2svpete]

No, Peter was not head of the apostles. That is untrue. Was he one of the 'inner circle' of disciples, yes he was. Was Peter himself the rock that the church was built on? Certainly not as Christ is the cornerstone and the statment made by Peter is the foundation for the church.

Peter headed up the spreading of the gospel among the Jews and Paul the gentiles.

From Peter himself (1 Peter 5:5 Likewise you younger people, submit yourselves to your elders. Yes, all of you be submissive to one another, and be clothed with humility, for “ God resists the proud,But gives grace to the humble.”

 

[mont974x4]

He is the rock of Christ...!!!
Without the rock... nobody, from S.Thomas... to S.James the minor, goes in Heaven...

Who needs Christ when we have Pete.

 

[Ormly]

I would like to know where it reads Christ made him a promise to build his Church upon him?

 

[Lilmissykato]

Who needs Christ when we have Pete.

no one said that

 

[Lilmissykato]

I would like to know where it reads Christ made him a promise to build his Church upon him?

You are peter (rock) and upon this rock i shall build my church..... and then what so ever you bindith on earth shall be binded in heaven

 

[k2svpete]

Taken out of context, scriptures can be made to mean just about anything.

A patent falsehood my dear. As the teachings of the gospel and apostles all come from the Old Testament, I'd be very intersted in seeing the pre-cursor to the concept of a man being the foundation of God's Kingdom.

 

[mont974x4]

no one said that

I just paraphrased what so many rc's spout.

 

[Ormly]

no one said that

Don't have to when your organisation intimates it.

It is not arguable that for centuries one could buy their way to heaven in the RCC..

 

[Ormly]

You are peter (rock) and upon this rock i shall build my church..... and then what so ever you bindith on earth shall be binded in heaven

That wasn't a promise but a statement of fact concerning what was revealed as a result from Peter's hungering and thirsting after Jesus; intimacy, i.e., seeing Jesus as the "Rock"; the Rock of revelation.. This "Rock of revelation" is what the true Church of Jesus Christ is founded upon. Not Peter. "Revelation truth" is how the Church has survived through the centuries. "Revelation truth" as Peter had at that moment is the life blood of the Church. Upon that "Revelation truth", of many since Peter, Jesus has built and maintained His Church.

 

[Catholic Christian]

Taken out of context, scriptures can be made to mean just about anything.
A patent falsehood my dear. As the teachings of the gospel and apostles all come from the Old Testament, I'd be very intersted in seeing the pre-cursor to the concept of a man being the foundation of God's Kingdom.

That wasn't a promise....

The keys "in the context" of Jewish culture are a symbol of authority.

In ancient times, keys were the hallmark of authority. A walled city might have one great gate; and that gate had one great lock, worked by one great key. To be given the key to the city—an honor that exists even today, though its import is lost—meant to be given free access to and authority over the city. The city to which Peter was given the keys was the heavenly city itself. This symbolism for authority is used elsewhere in the Bible (Is. 22:22, Rev. 1:18).

Biblically the keys recall the symbol of office for the Prime Minister of the Davidic kings. So, when Jesus, who is the King of Kings and son of David gives "the keys" to Peter, the Jewish men who were there knew EXACTLY what Jesus was doing: Making Peter the Prime Minister of the Kingdom, and thus establishing the office of what we call the Papacy.

THAT is the context, my friends: The context of the culture in which the scriptures were written.

 

[k2svpete]

And truth is finding scripture, in context, that supports such an assertion. I haven't seen one.

 

[Ormly]

And truth is finding scripture, in context, that supports such an assertion. I haven't seen one.

Truth lies in understanding the context. The "keys" to our understanding lies in the revelation of God's word when it is received by us. Authority lies with those who receive what God reveals and receives. What was revealed to Peter was by revelation. You know the rest of the story.

 

[Catholic Christian]

Truth lies in understanding the context. The "keys" to our understanding lies in the revelation of God's word when it is received by us. Authority lies with those who receive what God reveals and receives. What was revealed to Peter was by revelation. You know the rest of the story.

That ain't what the Bible says, Big O

 

[Ormly]

That ain't what the Bible says, Big O

When you come to understand the context; "the rest of the story", you will see it.