St. Patrick Was Not a Protestant

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Is it possible that St. Patrick wasn't Catholic? Some Protestants say so.​


St. Patrick was born in 385 into a high-ranking Roman Christian family in western Britain; he died in Ireland in 461, though some accounts put his death later. His grandfather was a priest, and his father, a deacon, was a prosperous nobleman and a local Roman official. The family’s native language was Latin.

Patrick writes that as youths he and his companions “turned away from God, did not keep his commandments, and did not obey our priests, who used to remind us of our salvation” (Conf. 1). His youth ended abruptly when, at age sixteen, he was kidnapped by Irish pirates and sold into slavery, being assigned to work as a shepherd. This revolutionized his life. His faith and zeal for God were ignited, and he spent much time praying and fasting.

After six years, he escaped, led by private revelations along a safe route back to Britain. In another revelation, he was commissioned to serve as a missionary to Ireland. To prepare, he traveled to France and spent two decades as a monk—studying, praying, and practicing penance.

He was ordained to the priesthood and in 432 was sent to Ireland to serve Palladius, who had been consecrated bishop by Pope Celestine. When Palladius died on a trip to Britain, Patrick was chosen as his successor and was consecrated bishop by Germanus, the papal representative overseeing the Irish mission.

Patrick experienced enormous success in converting the Irish, and three assistant bishops from France were sent to help him, among them Sechnall (AKA Secundinus). Within his generation, the Irish had been transformed by God’s grace into a Christian (and Catholic) people. In 441, Patrick went to Rome to seek approval of his ministry in Ireland, and the newly elected Pope Leo the Great confirmed Patrick’s full adherence to the Catholic faith.

This is significant, since today, some assert that Patrick was not even Catholic! The challenge is made mainly by Irish Americans who were brought up Protestant or who have abandoned the Church for Protestantism and wish to co-opt Patrick and represent him as a non-Catholic figure.

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The cognitive dissonance necessary to claim he wasn't Catholic is WILD
True, but it's not untypical of the kind of tortured, twisted reasoning that has come out of the unhappy province of Ulster ever since the Battle of the Boyne in 1690.

The mythology that supported the "cognitive dissonance" you refer to is unlike anything you're likely to encounter anywhere else in the world. Anything felt to be "papist" must be denigrated; after all, the sinister pope and his evil minions are out to take over the world and slaughter good, God-fearing Protestants by the hundreds of millions, unless the Loyal Orange Lodge and the Apprentice Boys can head them off.

As a result, St. Patrick has to be "de-Latinized" in order to fit into the anti-Catholic, "Good gravy, lads, we're still facing an apocalyptic threat from James II and that ravening horde of paganistic mackerel-snappers that want to drive us into the bloody sea!"-type thinking that was spread by bigoted demagogues like Martin Smyth and Ian Paisley for so many years.

Fortunately, most of the worst excesses have gone by the wayside in the "Wee Province o' Stormont", but you'll still run into the odd hardliner now and then who still staunchly adheres to the old fables and sputters about Bogside and the Provos and upholds "IN GLORIOUS REMEMBRANCE" the shining event of the ages, when Good King Billy and his byes chased James 'round a cow pasture---sure, and wasn't it a foine day?" :rolleyes: Ah, let's break out the Lambeg drums!

Everybody else (on both sides) seems to have moved beyond such nonsense, and let's hope that it stays that way. The last thing Ireland needs is a repeat of "the Troubles" and nightly battles between the Provos, the Royal Ulster Constabulary, the Ulster Defense Association, the B-Specials, and the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
 
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St Patrick is Catholic. That is what the Church teaches. You however are not. And you are debating what was posted in the op.
 
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