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That is why we all need the Holy Spirit to teach us and lead us into all truth. We need no man to teach us. Men may preach and read the bible but it is God Himself through the Holy Spirit that quickens it to our hearts and minds..
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No, I out right asked you if you wee implying that I don't rely on Christ's for redemption?
because if your answer is yes, I will report it because that is what i was told to do... dems the rules, bro don't get mad at me, I don't make the rules.
you can avoid all of this by just being nice and leaving the irrelevant snide comments out of it.
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I'm not. You said "our teachers are fallible," Okay, then how the heck can they be TEACHERS then?
Mine is Christ and His Church that He ordained and sent as teaches to "go and TEACH".. so for that reason, i ask, is Christ fallible?
No of course not.. so out goes the window the illogical argument that I have to be infallible to listen to the Church.
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She's not. She's just interpreting your words in light of the mistaken impression that Christ is the One teaching her denomination.
Ooops....
I just said Benedict was mistaken, which means that I'm insinuating that she is decieved which could cause someone to request that I be banned. I've heard there are people around that do that sort of thing...
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Wow...you'll report someone???? That's so unlike you...
By all means, I'm just following your lead, course I'll stop short of actually requesting that you be banned. Not really my style. Other people make those requests though, or so I've heard.
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Can you objectively prove that our Church is not His?She's not. She's just interpreting your words in light of the mistaken impression that Christ is the One teaching her denomination.
Ooops....
And this is a yes or no question.
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Exactly, it been proven over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over around here and her opinion is still faulty.
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Well, I am trying to avoid nonsense. Figured it was as good a place to start as any....
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I know it's a big bible, but pretty soon you are going to run out of verses. then you'll have to quote the ECF
I know it's a big bible, but pretty soon you are going to run out of verses. then you'll have to quote the ECF
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And here's the non sequitor and circular conclusion to your argument.
Your christian tradition does not recognize Saints because it is unbiblical, according to your christian tradition and has no means of doing so.
Your christian tradition has no hope that God will wash away sins in this lifetime.
Your christian tradition has no means of recognizing Saints but yet the debate is against those that have the means and in the practice of doing so.
And people want to call others Saints with out a means solely because there are others that do have Saints and have the means to do so.
Also the debate wasn't mean vs means. It was argument from silence criticicizing those that do have a means of recognizing Saints solely, because it's a Catholic practice.
This debate is over
Peace
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Wrong, again. Becoming a trend with you. My beliefs do not give authority to your denomination to identify or establish anything with regard to a person's sanctification, in this life or the next. You err, yet again, in assuming that your denomination's empty pronouncement of perfected sanctification carries any weight with anyone but those who misguidedly acknowledge your leaders as authoritative.
That would depend on how you employ the phrase. I am most certainly justified, right now, before the judgment seat of God and He is, through His indwelling, sanctifying me daily. This is an ongoing process and will remain an ongoing process so long as I reside in sinful flesh.
Your denomination has nothing beyond its own inflated, overblown, and unjustified proclamation of authority, which gives you nothing beyond fealty from those who subject themselves to her error and ridicule and disdain and, at times when God is giving us pause, compassion from all others that you are such a large group of misguided people. Just because your denomination pompously and pretentiously presumes to speak for God means nothing more than that their sense of self-worth is egregiously inflated. I do not debate your denomination's practice of "canonization" because it is a non-thing to me, barely a blip on the radar of things with which I need concern myself. Once again, and for your enlightenment, it is your world that revolves around the lies of your denomination, not mine.
It was over before it started because all of the bluster by those in your camp is based on nothing more than your denomination's pretentious presumption that she even has, much less exclusively has, the authority to establish or recognize who is and is not worthy of veneration.
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