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You are aware that ice floats and melts.Proves that ice is pretty stable.
Oh, I've read your nonsense, and couldYou haven’t listened to anything I’ve said. You keep going back to the cookie-cutter teaching that all the things you mention had to happen gradually over very lengthy periods of time, layer after layer, and present an order of evolution. I have told you the difference is it was done rapidly, the Genesis Flood, and the layers reflect only the order in which the remains were buried by catastrophic fountain of the deep eruptions, great land mass break-ups, deluge, and wave after wave with run-off. Animals could have been buried in their tracks; petrified trees and animal fossils in the same layer may not have even lived at the same time. Volcano eruptions probably encircled the globe, and you think you know what happened.
Here is more on Spurgeon's views-- Charles H. Spurgeon and the Age of the Earth.Spurgeon explicitly taught that the earth is many million of years old. For example, in his sermon, “The Power of the Holy Spirit” that he preached on June 17, 1855, he said (as is shown in his manuscripts of his sermons),
In the 2d verse of the first chapter of Genesis, we read, “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.” We know not how remote the period of the creation of this globe may be—certainly many millions of years before the time of Adam. Our planet has passed through various stages of existence, and different kinds of creatures have lived on its surface, all of which have been fashioned by God. But before that era came, wherein man should be its principal tenant and monarch, the Creator gave up the world to confusion. He allowed the inward fires to burst up from beneath, and melt all the solid matter, so that all kinds of substances were commingled in one vast mass of disorder.
You are aware that ice floats and melts.
If you have to deny that to keep your beliefs
afloat there may be a flaw in your beliefs.
Isn't glacier ice a type of rock?Oh, I've read your nonsense, and could
refute every made- up claim one by one,
but the fact that there was no flood
disproves all of them at once.
Saying "ice is stable", an obvious falsehood,
hardly adds value to your claims.
There were no polar ice caps prior to the Flood.No red flag goes up when you
realize a global flood when float
the ice off of Antarctica and Greenland?
It's still there. Proves there was no flood.
Simple.
Ice is ice. It floats. Then it melts.Isn't glacier ice a type of rock?
What are the two 'musts' for a glacier?Ice is ice. It floats. Then it melts.
Surely you know that.
A wwf would have floated the polar ice.
It's a super simple concept.
What polar ice?A wwf would have floated the polar ice.
Not before the Flood, you didn't.I've walked on glaciers. They are made of ice.
I'm going to drop the questioning angle. It's obvious at this point that your scientific reasoning in regard to glaciers is as full of holes as TOE. Personally, I agree with AV's comment that there were no polar ice caps prior to the Flood anyway.You tell me. Never heard of any "musts'.
I've walked on glaciers. They are made of ice.
There are no "holes". You just made thatI'm going to drop the questioning angle. It's obvious at this point that your scientific reasoning in regard to glaciers is as full of holes as TOE. Personally, I agree with AV's comment that there were no polar ice caps prior to the Flood anyway.
Is that taking into consideration the age of the water in the fountains of the deep that make up the ice?The ice is far older than the purported flood.
You're thinking (?) of icebergs.Ice floats. It's silly to deny it.
Is that why you switched to denying that there was any ice?
As opposed to what?Your source of reliable information
claims excess flood water was wafted to
Neptune where it shines to this day as a warning
beacon against incoming rogue angels.
Is that taking into consideration the age of the water in the fountains of the deep that make up the ice?
You're thinking (?) of icebergs.
There is no way to date the age of water.Is that taking into consideration the age of the water in the fountains of the deep that make up the ice?
You're thinking (?) of icebergs?
Fresh water floats on top of salt water, too.The ice in the ice sheets is dated by the consecutive layers caused by snowy and non-snowy seasons building the ice sheet slowly. It can be cross checked by trapped gases where applicable, and they match.
All water ice at near freezing temeperatures (the ones where liquid water exists) is less dense than liquid water. It will float.
Was ash found in any of those ice layers from the Toba eruption?These things are clearly evident and quite easy to understand.
You believe that the earth was created in 4004 BC. In what sense are you not a young earth creationistI'm not a young earth creationist.
"Embedded agers" believe that the earth was created so that it looked old. They would claim that all those rocks down there that look like millions of years of deposits were there from day one, and only look like they took a long time to deposit.Mr. Morton and I duked it out on this site some time ago.
He ended up calling me a Last Thursday or Omphalos -- (if I remember correctly) -- and that was the end of it.
I consider myself an embedded ager.
That is correct.You believe that the earth was created in 4004 BC.
Because I believe the earth was created with age embedded into it.In what sense are you not a young earth creationist.
It looks old because it was created old."Embedded agers" believe that the earth was created so that it looked old.
That is Omphalos.They would claim that all those rocks down there that look like millions of years of deposits were there from day one, and only look like they took a long time to deposit.
No."Embedded age" and the Omphalos hypothesis are the same thing.
No navel, no scars, no physical evidence of passage of time.See Omphalos hypothesis - Wikipedia , In what sense are you "embedded ager" and not believe in the Omphalos hypothesis?
Nope.The problem with the embedded age view, as we discussed before, is that there are millions of fossils under those rocks.
They weren't there from Day One though.If those rocks and fossils were there from day one, that means that none of those dinosaurs under those rocks ever lived?
From various cataclysms in the Old Testament.And if they were not there from day one, how did miles of rocks and fossils get buried down there?
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