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Speaking of the 1888 message, that most precious message, Mrs. White wrote, "The light that is to lighten the whole earth with its glory was resisted, and BY THE ACTION OF OUR OWN BRETHREN has been in a great degree kept away from the world." 1 S.M.235. *emphasis mine

Not only has it been kept away from the world but from the church as well. And, she warned, "The prejudices and opinions that prevailed at Minneapolis are NOT DEAD BY ANY MEANS; the seeds sown there in some hearts are READY TO SPRING UP and bear a like harvest." T.M.467. *emphasis mine

The 1888 message presented in clear, distinct lines how true "spiritual formation" (forming a Christian character) can be achieved.

"Habitually dwelling upon Christ and His all-sufficient merits increases faith, quickens the power of spiritual discernment, strengthens the desire to be like Him, and brings an earnestness into prayer that makes it efficacious." Gospel Worker, 166.

If that were the only statement from the SoP that we could find on 1888 "spiritual formation," it would be sufficient. HOwever, in the SoP there is a plethora of statements emphasizing the necessity of continually looking to Jesus and trusting in His all-sufficient merits alone in order to find the approval of God, teaching that the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour are the fountain that has been opened for sin. This fountain of the merits of Christ is opened, not for the spiritually proud, but for the poor in spirit only:

"The Gospel is to be proclaimed to the poor. NOT TO THE SPIRITUALLY PROUD, THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE RICH AND IN NEED OF NOTHING, is it revealed, but to those who are humble and contrite. One FOUNTAIN has been opened for sin, a fountain for the POOR IN SPIRIT." D.A.300.

"Those who know that they cannot possibly save themselves, or of themselves do any righteous action, are the ones who appreciate the help that Christ can bestow. They are the poor in spirit, whom He declares to be blessed." M.B.7.

"Faith is the condition upon which God has seen fit to promise pardon to sinners. Not that there is any virtue in faith whereby salvation is merited, but because faith can lay hold of the merits of Christ, the remedy (fountain) provided for sin." F.W.100,101.

Conclusion:

"Unless he makes it his lifebusiness to behold the uplifted Saviour and to accept the merits which it is his privilege to claim, the sinner CAN NO MORE BE SAVED than Peter could walk upon the water unless he kept his eyes fixed steadily upon Jesus." T.M.93. *emphasis mine

Unless we habitually dwell upon Christ and His all-sufficient merits, and claim them, there can be no spiritual formation for it is the only way for us to obtain the gift of the Holy Spirit to help our infirmities and to form a Christian character.

This last statement is found under the subtitle, "Rejecting The Light," in 1888 from T.M.93.

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Be careful using the term 'spiritual formation' as it has been co-opted by teachers of occult, mystic meditations and chants to acheive a higher form of spirituality. Also known as contemplative prayer, centering prayer, etc...

People from all protestant denominations, including our own, are being deceived by this innocuous sounding practice.
 
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ECR, I posted the above to show what true spiritual formation is (to form a Christian character),,, to expose the counterfeit. The best way to expose error is to present the truth, right?

sky :)

Yes.... except when someone is deceived into spiritualism thinking they are trying to gain true spiritual formation. I'm sure the sorcerers that teach this, don't present it as an occult ritual.
 
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On a different adventist forum someone wrote:

For many years, I was very active in some of the organizations mentioned in Groups 1, 2 and 3 (Hartland, Hope International, and Steps to Life). While these groups may currently vary in their support of the corporate SDA church, there was a time 15 - 20 years ago when all of these groups were on the verge of calling the church Babylon (although I don't think any of them ultimately did). I was part of that movement because I wanted a deeper experience with my Lord; and what I mostly got was a sense of unworthiness and condemnation - neither one necessarily a Kingdom blessing. I constantly questioned my salvation. As I began noticing cracks in the infrastructure of the "independent ministries" (as they were called in the 1980's and 1990's), I became aware of other movements within the church where people were also seeking a deeper relationship; although these groups were considerable more liberal and open-minded than the groups associated with "historical" Adventists. Although I was initially offended by some of their practices, I noticed more character and positive growth in these groups than I did in my previous relationships; so I stuck with them; and continue to be blessed. I will never give up my SDA culture or principles; but I hope I never go back to the closed-minded legalism as defined by a man-made denomination (or sub-movement in that denomination), either.

I raise these points not to be arrogant or rebellious; I ask for feedback from both sides of the issue. In trying to open my mind, I reserve the right to be wrong (Ive been wrong before); and reserve the right to change my mind at any time. I just want to be in an ever-increasing relationship with the Giver - with or without the gifts.

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To this I replied:


JM, I can truly indentify with your experience until one day the Lord impressed the following statement upon my mind as I was re-reading the book Patriarchs & Prophets, searching for answers:

"In all our helpless unworthiness we must trust in the merits of the crucified and risen Saviour. None will ever perish while they do this." p.203.

None will ever perish while they do what? Trust in the MERITS of the crucified and risen Saviour.

Could it be that simple?

Some time after that I came across these words: "The matter of salvation is just as simple as ABC. But we don't understand it." Faith & Works,64.

The statment from P.P.203 had hit me like a brick. I had been in the church (even as a pastor and Bible worker) for more than 20 years when the Holy Spirit impressed this simple truth into my soul. I had been crying out to Him at a time when I, like never before, had been made to realize my utterly helpless condition.

I had been thirsting and hungering for the 1888 message for many years. I kept on reading and on page 432 I received another comfirmation of the words the Spirit had already impressed upon my mind on page 203:

"If we are conscious of our needs, we should not devote all our powers to mourning over them. While we realize our helpless condition without Christ, we are not to yield to discouragement, but rely upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour. Look and live. Jesus has pledged His word; He will save all who come unto Him. Though millions who need to be healed will reject His offered mercy, not one who TRUSTS in His MERITS will be left to perish."

It wasn't long before I was led to discover that this was the very foundation of the 1888 message, the very foundation of the third angel's message itself as Mrs. White explained that as we lay hold by faith of the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, by claiming them on a daily basis, His righteousness is brought into the life and it is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God. See Faith & Works,65,66 and Testimonies to Minsters, 92,93,97. (Rev.14:12)

This, she declared, is the third angel's message in clear, distinct lines.

Over the years, even before I made this discovery, I had examined the writings of many independent ministries such as Hartland, Steps to Life, Hope International, The 1888 Message Study Committee, just to mention these, and today I can say that none of them, including the main stream, were or are today teaching this simple truth, the simplicity of trusting daily in the MERITS of a crucified and risen Saviour in order to find the approval of God that we may become vessels fit the Master's use.

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sky wrote:

"In all our helpless unworthiness we must trust in the merits of the crucified and risen Saviour. None will ever perish while they do this." PP; p.203.

"If we are conscious of our needs, we should not devote all our powers to mourning over them. While we realize our helpless condition without Christ, we are not to yield to discouragement, but rely upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour. Look and live. Jesus has pledged His word; He will save all who come unto Him. Though millions who need to be healed will reject His offered mercy, not one who TRUSTS in His MERITS will be left to perish." PP; p432

Thank you for these quotes, Skyblue; they are truly a blessing! I agree wholeheartedly that it is solely through the merits of our crucified and risen Savior that we are saved. What beauty there is in the simplicity of this eternal truth!

"In all our helpless unworthiness we must trust in the merits of the crucified and risen Saviour. None will ever perish while they do this." PP; p.203.

If we are conscious of our needs, we should not devote all our powers to mourning over them. While we realize our helpless condition without Christ, we are not to yield to discouragement, but rely upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour. Look and live. Jesus has pledged His word; He will save all who come unto Him. Though millions who need to be healed will reject His offered mercy, not one who TRUSTS in His MERITS will be left to perish." PP; p432

Thank you for these quotes, Skyblue; they are truly a blessing! I agree wholeheartedly that it is solely through the merits of our crucified and risen Savior that we are saved. What beauty there is in the simplicity of this eternal truth!

This seems to confirm that my relationship with my King is what saves me; not my relationship and conformity with a denomination (although my denomination holds more truth for me than any other group). I come to Christ just as I am and confess my sins; and He is faithful and just to forgive my sins and cleanse me from unrighteousness. I don't need to cleanse myself from unrighteousness before I come to Christ; I come to Christ and He cleanses me. So why are people required to understand and conform to all 28 pillars of our faith before they are allowed to "join the club" (be baptized)? Isn't it our righteousness in Christ that saves us; and not the "club" we join or the "pigeon hole" to which we are assigned? Aren't the members of other "clubs" who are truly seeking intimacy with their King just as "saved" as we are?

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JM, Your reply truly resonates with what I have come to understand of the most precious message ever sent to our people. Allow me to add a couple of statemetns that perfectly harmonizes with what you just stated:

"Some seem to feel that they must be on probation and must prove to the Lord that they are reformed before they can claim His blessing. But these dear souls may claim the blessing even now. They must have His grace, the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, or they cannot form a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him just as we are, sinful, helpless, dependent."

"He who will lay hold of Christ's righteousness need not wait one moment that he himself may blout out his own sins. He need not wait until he has made a suitable repentance before he may take hold upon Christ's righteousness. We do not understand the matter of salvation. It is just as simple as ABC. But we don't understand it." Faith & Works,38,64.

"How long will you hate and despise the messengers of God's righteousness? God has given them His message. They bear the word of the Lord: There is salvation for you (pardon and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit) but only through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy spirit has been offered to you again and again." T.M.97. *parenthesis mine

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I have a couple of questions:

1. what is the MERIT?

2. how do you trust the MERIT? Or what do you do to trust the MERIT?

What is the merit? What else but the merits of the infinite sacrifice that was made! What merits could it be but the merits of the blood that was shed, the merits of the blood that is of value beyond estimate!

I was raised and taught to trust in the merits of the virgin Mary or of the "saints". These were said to be in Heaven and to have a bank of merits which they could plead before God in behalf of sinners. No catholic asks, What is the merit? They all understand that it is the merits of their good works.

Shame on us if we fail to discern the merits of Christ's infinite sacrifice.

"The intercession of Christ in our behalf is that of presenting His divine merits in the offering of Himself to the Father as our substitute and surety; for He ascended up on High to make atonement for our transgressions." Faith & Works,105.

When the Reformers were led to discover the "true light" it is written that "they cast themselves wholly upon the merits of Jesus." The Great Controversy,74.

One of them declared, "Father, we had devised for ourselves many useless follies, but You have placed Your word before me like a torch, and You have touched my heart, in order that I may hold in abomination all other merits save those of Jesus." The Great Controversy,221.

For "the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour are the foundation of the Christian's faith." 73.

"Present your case before God pleading the merits of the blood shed for you upon Calvary's cross." Faith & Works,106.

Besides our great need, this is our only plea.

How do we trust in the merits of the crucified and risen Saviour?

Well, I will answer your question by asking you another question, How do catholics trust in the merits of their good works?

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I agree the 1888 message of Christ and His Righteousness is as important today, even more so in some ways, than it was back then. I'm sure you have read Waggoners book on the subject. We found it to be a great blessing to our group.
 
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With all due respect Sky, (from what I gather you worked as a pastor (that puts you in a special position...))

the thing is, its not that simple,

- personally - my faith is solely based on Jesus Christ, as my personal savior! He is the rock of my salvation... I will stick to Him for the rest of my life (whatever that means...)

SDA theology is somewhat contrary or lets use the word different...

EGW might claim in one writing that salvation is as easy as ABC, and since you are presenting that one to me, I guess, you accept the rest of the package as well... but in other writings EGW will come up with other things, and these things make the sum of its parts...based on that you will find many more things...

So if salvation is that easy Sky ( and I dont wanna insult your intelligence, but claimed to have been a pastor...) then why do we have to go through a certain set of baptismal vows? which definitely do interfere with our everyday life?

maybe that is because the merits of Christ do involve more than just relying on the merits of Christ? why do I have to vow? if it was that easy? really? come on...

You know I have spent quite some time in the SDA, observed it from different angles, different situations... I think I have had my share...

Personally I will rely only on Jesus and if it were to turn out in the end that that hadnt been enough, and that I should have taken the whole SDA package... wow... my bad I guess...



sky wrote:


JM
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JM, Your reply truly resonates with what I have come to understand of the most precious message ever sent to our people. Allow me to add a couple of statemetns that perfectly harmonizes with what you just stated:

"Some seem to feel that they must be on probation and must prove to the Lord that they are reformed before they can claim His blessing. But these dear souls may claim the blessing even now. They must have His grace, the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, or they cannot form a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him just as we are, sinful, helpless, dependent."

"He who will lay hold of Christ's righteousness need not wait one moment that he himself may blout out his own sins. He need not wait until he has made a suitable repentance before he may take hold upon Christ's righteousness. We do not understand the matter of salvation. It is just as simple as ABC. But we don't understand it." Faith & Works,38,64.

"How long will you hate and despise the messengers of God's righteousness? God has given them His message. They bear the word of the Lord: There is salvation for you (pardon and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit) but only through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy spirit has been offered to you again and again." T.M.97. *parenthesis mine

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So if salvation is that easy Sky ( and I dont wanna insult your intelligence, but claimed to have been a pastor...) then why do we have to go through a certain set of baptismal vows? which definitely do interfere with our everyday life?

If you don't mind, may I ask what issues you have with the baptismal vows, and how they interfere with everyday life?
 
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If you don't mind, may I ask what issues you have with the baptismal vows, and how they interfere with everyday life?

well, they do...

I dont know if I have the strength but I will use an easy example...

ALCOHOL ;)

first of all I am not sure if people had to take a vow before being baptized that they are not gonna drink anymore

slight interference with life as it will limit options in life

but lets not start a discussion on this one...

besides I think the vow further states that we are not even to work at places where there is alcohol much less produce that type of thing

I remember a story about a young woman who couldnt find a job and was finally offered a job as a waitress, not in a shady bar, but at a restaurant in a hotel...

so the family was definitely against it and I think the whole church was praying against her taking the job...

now thats interference...

besides I wonder if one could work at a supermarket in this case scenario as alcohol and tobacco are sold there as well...
 
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well, they do...

I dont know if I have the strength but I will use an easy example...

ALCOHOL ;)

first of all I am not sure if people had to take a vow before being baptized that they are not gonna drink anymore

slight interference with life as it will limit options in life

but lets not start a discussion on this one...

besides I think the vow further states that we are not even to work at places where there is alcohol much less produce that type of thing

I remember a story about a young woman who couldnt find a job and was finally offered a job as a waitress, not in a shady bar, but at a restaurant in a hotel...

so the family was definitely against it and I think the whole church was praying against her taking the job...

now thats interference...

besides I wonder if one could work at a supermarket in this case scenario as alcohol and tobacco are sold there as well...

Still not seeing how that's getting in the way of everyday life. I know your stance on drinking, but not everyone has that stance. I see something as getting in the way of everyday life when it keeps you form doing something necessary/good for you. The baptismal vows really get to the heart of ones commitment.

And I used to work at a grocery store, and I had some reservations about it but it is what it is. Since then God has blessed me to work jobs where I don't have to worry about selling goods I know are bad for people, and where I don't have to be concerned about working on the sabbath.
 
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Still not seeing how that's getting in the way of everyday life. I know your stance on drinking, but not everyone has that stance. I see something as getting in the way of everyday life when it keeps you form doing something necessary/good for you. The baptismal vows really get to the heart of ones commitment.

And I used to work at a grocery store, and I had some reservations about it but it is what it is. Since then God has blessed me to work jobs where I don't have to worry about selling goods I know are bad for people, and where I don't have to be concerned about working on the sabbath.

OK, drinking shouldnt be everyday life, you got me here, but like I suggested its not what I was heading to, the stuff with the grocery store would be one of them

you know its all about how serious you take all that stuff, all those little details and how much you allow those things to interfere with your decisions and thus everyday life...

working at a grocery store, huh? I dont wanna be judgmental here, but I guess some SDAs would have had a major struggle with doing that and others not so much, there again seems to be no right and wrong but still it interferes....

What I was basically referring that I suppose it was easier to get baptisez by John the Baptizer than by the SDA, I can be mistaken here since I wasnt there which is due to obvious reasons...
 
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OK, drinking shouldnt be everyday life, you got me here, but like I suggested its not what I was heading to, the stuff with the grocery store would be one of them

you know its all about how serious you take all that stuff, all those little details and how much you allow those things to interfere with your decisions and thus everyday life...

working at a grocery store, huh? I dont wanna be judgmental here, but I guess some SDAs would have had a major struggle with doing that and others not so much, there again seems to be no right and wrong but still it interferes....

What I was basically referring that I suppose it was easier to get baptisez by John the Baptizer than by the SDA, I can be mistaken here since I wasnt there which is due to obvious reasons...


I don't see how that would interfere with every day life though. Some decisions maybe, but not every day life. And even when it comes to decision making, you have good decisions, and bad decisions.

I don't think religion as a whole was as complicated now as it was back during John's day, so I'd be prone to agree with the statement that it was probably easier to get baptized during his time, then it is now. But I'm certain we'd probably not see eye2eye on the reasons behind the truth to that statement.
 
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Let us not forget that the 1888 message was sent to a church whose members had already been baptized, some for many years and some for not so many years. Yet, from top to bottom the people needed to experience the new birth. They needed to have their eyes directed to Jesus, to His divine Person, and to His merits. For years the people had been taught to look to man, to trust to man, to expect help from man. See T.M.93. They had lost sight of Jesus and of His merits which it was their privilege to claim in order to bring His righteousness into their lives. See Testimonies to Ministers, 92; Faith & Works,65,66.

People who had already been baptized were invited to come to Jesus, on a daily basis, just as they were, sinful, helpless, dependent, trusting wholly in the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour. Then the Holy Spirit, Christ's Representative, would bring His righteousness into their lives and it would accomplish everything for His righteousness is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God. See T.M.92; F.W.27.

On page 369 of Testimonies to Ministers, we read:

"The words of Jesus (You must be born again) are spoken just as verily to presidents of conferences, elders of churches, and those occupying official positions in our institutions."

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In all of Mrs. White's writings are hidden most precious gems of truth, hidden treasures. And it is these gems and treasures that we need to find. One of them is this:

"The merits of Christ's sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

This is a truth pregnant with eternal results!

Anyone who believes from the heart that the merits of Christ's infinite sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father in his behalf in order to obtain His approval and therefore all the blessings of the Covenant of Grace, is blessed, even greatly blessed for he becomes a partaker of Christ's nature, a nature FAR ABOVE that which Adam forfeited by transgression. See 1 Cor.15:47.

So blessed that he is elevated in the scales of moral value, with God, above every name, principality, and power. Being a partaker of Christ's nature he is made to sit with Him at the right hand of the Majesty on High!

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In all of Mrs. White's writings are hidden most precious gems of truth, hidden treasures. And it is these gems and treasures that we need to find. One of them is this:

"The merits of Christ's sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

This is a truth pregnant with eternal results!

Anyone who believes from the heart that the merits of Christ's infinite sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father in his behalf in order to obtain His approval and therefore all the blessings of the Covenant of Grace, is blessed, even greatly blessed for he becomes a partaker of Christ's nature, a nature FAR ABOVE that which Adam forfeited by transgression. See 1 Cor.15:47.

So blessed that he is elevated in the scales of moral value, with God, above every name, principality, and power. Being a partaker of Christ's nature he is made to sit with Him at the right hand of the Majesty on High!

sky

I know only about one hidden treasure... ;)
 
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