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Spiritual Beheading

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I had a vision the other day seeing a spiritual beheading. A body was before me, the body of Christ. Christ was the head and under Him were the leaders/pastors and below the leaders/pastors were the people within the body. There was a violent war within the heavens and something rising up from the ground to ensnare the feet of the body. As the feet of the body were ensnared, the body began to be severed between the leaders/pastors and the head of Christ and as this spiritual beheading took place, the head of Christ was fully in His place, but the body moved off to the side and away from Christ as their head. As the leaders and pastors moved away from Christ as their head and they began to go their own way apart from Christ, those under them simply followed the leaders that they were under. The Lord kept bringing to me, John 15 over the vine and the branches.

Christ is the Word of God and we are to remain in Him, His word and He within us. If we do not remain in the word knowing what is truth of the word, then we will not know when we are being deceived and lead away from the truth of the word or Christ being as our head over us. While we have to keep our eyes focused on the Lord, so His light and life can enter into us as the head, we have to remain in His word so we know truth and we have to keep guard over all things rising up that would desire to ensnare our feet and lead us away from what is truth and Christ.

It was a vision, a spiritual beheading and the body was being severed away from Christ. Please take warning in this time, to remain in the word and true to the Lord in all things. Pray for our leaders and pastors and pray for our brothers and sisters in the lord and speak truth to them if you see them going astray from what is truth. We are ONE body united by His Holy Spirit of Truth and if we choose to walk away from truth, we will be divided from each other and a kingdom that is divided cannot stand. Get into the word, meditate on it and digest it and partake of the word now so that we are not being deceived. The enemy does not look you in the face when he comes, he crouches low at your feet just waiting to ensnare them. Sin desires to have you, but you must master it.

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so much truth in your post ...

I recently learned that in this verse slain means spiritual or physical beheading ... taken out one way or another for teaching the word of God ...

Revelation 6:9
the seals

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the testimony which they held.

thank you for your post ...

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Yes, much truth in that. It is nice to see other people seeing this happening. I will be preaching on the abomination the church of america has become and how it should seek repentence and be restored. I believe most will not heed but a remnant will rise up. I believe God will raise people up to speak this message and prophesy to America.
 
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Good dream.

For me it's so hard to discern when I'm sitting in the church pews listening to the preacher. There's a few of them and most of them don't sound bad at all. The messages are very good and convicting and I'm left feeling bad for being judgemental and what not.

However when I speak one on one with these people concerning prophesy and Revelations and the mark of the beast and topics like this, it's almost like they have never even read it or they are not concerned at all.

I don't know wether it's me or them. On one hand when I talk to them, their faith in God's love and protection for them trumps my knowledge of prophesy. On the other hand, will their faith in God's love endure the tribulation to come? Will mine?
 
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Wow, I had written a letter to our church leaders because some deception is being taught in our church. It is almost like no one else hears it. So I am gently pursuing what the Holy SPirit is telling and goading me to do. Your vision is so right on for the American Church. I was laughed at in Sunday School because I stood on the word. I think the American church is too nice and allows so much sin (unwilling to change- rebellious) in the church. I believe in gentle correction. But I will not compromise the Truth.
Amen?
 
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Thanks for passing this along to us, Red.

This week God also highlighted a couple things in Ezekiel and Isaiah/Jeremiah for me...along these lines.

8:6 And He said to me, Son of man, do you see what they are doing, the great abominations which the house of Israel is doing here, that I should be far from My sanctuary? But you turn back and you shall see greater abominations.
US decisions are being made relating to large charitable donations, mostly in capping. This will impact the very large ministries.

There are also laws about paying taxes on personal gifts and church perks, and I doubt every minister has respected this law. How many times have we heard a televangelist rave about God prompting someone to give them a necklace, a car, a week in a timeshare. Those gifts are taxable as income.

Funds raised within a small church for a worthy cause, if used directly by members, are also taxable.

Change can be painful, but not necessarily bad in the long run. We are in a phase of the Church that has a Babel-like tendency. Bigger, better, higher.

When leaders increase in power, laymen tend toward less empowerment, and lean on leaders. They play off each other, and increase the divide.


We might think of the loss of headship of these leaders is terrible for the church, but remember -- each is one person. You are one person. They have pulled together incredibly large ministries with as many employees as some kingdoms; but these employees are still capable of doing the work, when the one speaker is removed.


We can all still come together to do the work of the kingdom.


The dream can help us prepare to manage the downfall, and prevent people from being pulled emotionally by their allegiances.


Reflect on what Christianity looked like before television. It carried on at a small scale, with good-hearted people and very pastoral ministers. We did not have adrenaline rushes at church, but prayed humbly.


They'll know we are Christians by our love.

There are pros and cons to the different ways we have worshiped through the ages, but we have always said that we are willing for God to shape us like potter's clay. So He does.
 
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I had a vision the other day seeing a spiritual beheading. A body was before me, the body of Christ. Christ was the head and under Him were the leaders/pastors and below the leaders/pastors were the people within the body. There was a violent war within the heavens and something rising up from the ground to ensnare the feet of the body. As the feet of the body were ensnared, the body began to be severed between the leaders/pastors and the head of Christ and as this spiritual beheading took place, the head of Christ was fully in His place, but the body moved off to the side and away from Christ as their head. As the leaders and pastors moved away from Christ as their head and they began to go their own way apart from Christ, those under them simply followed the leaders that they were under. The Lord kept bringing to me, John 15 over the vine and the branches.

Christ is the Word of God and we are to remain in Him, His word and He within us. If we do not remain in the word knowing what is truth of the word, then we will not know when we are being deceived and lead away from the truth of the word or Christ being as our head over us. While we have to keep our eyes focused on the Lord, so His light and life can enter into us as the head, we have to remain in His word so we know truth and we have to keep guard over all things rising up that would desire to ensnare our feet and lead us away from what is truth and Christ.

It was a vision, a spiritual beheading and the body was being severed away from Christ. Please take warning in this time, to remain in the word and true to the Lord in all things. Pray for our leaders and pastors and pray for our brothers and sisters in the lord and speak truth to them if you see them going astray from what is truth. We are ONE body united by His Holy Spirit of Truth and if we choose to walk away from truth, we will be divided from each other and a kingdom that is divided cannot stand. Get into the word, meditate on it and digest it and partake of the word now so that we are not being deceived. The enemy does not look you in the face when he comes, he crouches low at your feet just waiting to ensnare them. Sin desires to have you, but you must master it.

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Amen! The Lord is showing you the condition of today's church, at least in America, though it could be beyond just America that this is taking place. So much of today's church is following man and man's teachings and has lost connection with the head, Jesus Christ. I have seen this in practice over and over again, so I can attest that what you are seeing is true and that Jesus is calling his church back to him as their head.
 
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A friend of mine told me about a year ago that the Church of Satan has more unity in it than the Christian Church. She ministers to victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse. There are no denominations as far as she knew.

She said, "Jesus is returning for the BRIDE not the BRIDES. What we have in America is a dislocated bride or dismembered bride. We need unity in the Christian Church."
 
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seeing a spiritual beheading.
A body was before me, the body of Christ. Christ was the head and under Him were the leaders/pastors and below the leaders/pastors were the people within the body.

There was a violent war within the heavens

Spiritual forces battling, pre-establishing the human battling.


and something rising up from the ground to ensnare the feet of the body.
An external force with malintent, trying to trip up the feet that would speed the gospel of peace. Feet are our mobility, our ability to get places....also a flexible foundation.

The force rose up from the firmament...the foundations of the Earth. In contrast to the heavenly battle.

As the feet of the body were ensnared,

Temporarily held in a tangle, but not severed permanently


the body began to be severed between the leaders/pastors and the head of Christ
A split in allegiances, people leaning on leaders instead of Jesus. While this seems to happen already without people noticing, it almost seems like there could be a series of events or teachings that cause a doctrinal shift. Preachers that draw people to themselves.

This happens in cults -- people merge in, thinking they are part of a higher spiritual ideal; but the leaders become increasingly demanding, to the point that members no longer trust their own connectivity with God.


and as this spiritual beheading took place, the head of Christ was fully in His place, but the body moved off to the side and away from Christ as their head. As the leaders and pastors moved away from Christ as their head and they began to go their own way apart from Christ, those under them simply followed the leaders that they were under.


1 Corinthians 3:4
For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not mere men?

We should look at what is in us that draws us to successful ministries. Do we desire to be connected with fame... do we use this connectivity to compete with other believers.... do we lean on others' spirituality in a fast-food approach to our own sustenance.

The Lord kept bringing to me, John 15 over the vine and the branches.
:amen:
Christ is the Word of God and we are to remain in Him, His word and He within us. If we do not remain in the word knowing what is truth of the word, then we will not know when we are being deceived and lead away from the truth of the word or Christ being as our head over us. While we have to keep our eyes focused on the Lord, so His light and life can enter into us as the head, we have to remain in His word so we know truth and we have to keep guard over all things rising up that would desire to ensnare our feet and lead us away from what is truth and Christ.


It was a vision, a spiritual beheading and the body was being severed away from Christ. Please take warning in this time, to remain in the word and true to the Lord in all things. Pray for our leaders and pastors and pray for our brothers and sisters in the lord and speak truth to them if you see them going astray from what is truth. We are ONE body united by His Holy Spirit of Truth and if we choose to walk away from truth, we will be divided from each other and a kingdom that is divided cannot stand. Get into the word, meditate on it and digest it and partake of the word now so that we are not being deceived. The enemy does not look you in the face when he comes, he crouches low at your feet just waiting to ensnare them. Sin desires to have you, but you must master it.
 
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Well, my husband and I delivered it to our Pastor and he received it well and even thanked us. I wanted to honor him even though we had to deliver this rebuke for not being specific with sin. Sometimes it is preached in churches that we are SINNERS, but the sin is never specific. We need our toes stepped on, we need to be constantly reminded of what sin is exactly. I cannot just ask God to forgive my sin and not name it. I would never get free from the power of that sin otherwise. We must be wise as serpents and innocent like a dove. Satan is a religious spirit and is a legalistic guru standing at the throne accusing the brethren. It is time to get specific so we can cut him off from attacking, tormenting and accusing us. Amen?

HERON: Thanks for the prayer of hope! Amen.
 
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"We should look at what is in us that draws us to successful ministries. Do we desire to be connected with fame... do we use this connectivity to compete with other believers.... do we lean on others' spirituality in a fast-food approach to our own sustenance." HERON

THIS IS SO TRUE. We must absolutely check our own motives in everything. Jesse Penn-Lewis, a christian author in the early 1900's, said that we should be suspicious of everything. I agree. She didn't mean paranoia, but test everything as scriptures command.
 
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