I'm almost starting to look forward to these...
Jester- sorry, but I've been away a few days.
What does Science have to offer? The Big Bang, and Evolution. Fact. I am not aware of an official declaration by any active society of Science which acknowledges a God, or Gods. The fact that the Bang and Evolution are all that Science have to offer is what ties them. That is their (incomplete) Unified Creation Field Theory. That is what ties the Big Bang and Evolution. Lay it all on the table, Science- explain how we humans on this Earth came into being from the moments of the Universe's Creation.
O...k... so science is bad because it doesn't rely on fairytales, pixie dust, and unicorns?
As for the idea that the Big Bang and Evolution are the only two things that science has to offer... you seem to have a VERY limited understanding. If the Big Bang Theory is step 1... the Theory of Evolution would be closer to step 7 or 8 when looking at the chronology of scientific fields leading toward the development of homo sapiens.
And WHAT I BORE WITNESS TO
Small point: you didn't "bear witness" to anything... but please, carry on...
Jester, meshes perfectly with what is known and acknowledged by Science.
Umm... no... but thanks for trying. The Big Bang Theory says nothing about "fiery matter" being "cast out" into space and then somehow forming everything into existence.
All I offer is the replacement of a singular Big Bang with a particle of infinite density- WHICH IF REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO DEFINITIVELY -EXPLAIN TO ME ALL THE WAY TO THE QUARK LEVEL-
Simple.
From Dictionary.com:
par·ti·cle
noun 1.a minute portion, piece, fragment, or amount; a tiny or very small bit: a particle of dust; not a particle of supporting evidence. 2.Physics. a.one of the extremely small constituents of matter, as an atom or nucleus. b.an elementary particle, quark, or gluon. c.a body in which the internal motion is negligible.
However, if you would like to find me a single reliable source that says the Big Bang originated from a single particle... I will be more than happy to retract my statement.
with a prolonged Bang-type event which may have lasted hours, as we measure time.
Actually, since time is relative, and since it is dependant on space... the scale of time at the moment of the Big Bang would have seemed to be the same as if it happened today.
Isn't science fun?!
For more information about the Big Bang Theory and the timeline associated with it, check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang_timeline
With what is now known, how can anyone regard the Genesis Account as anything more than a children's story? Really.
I'm sorry... but this is coming from the guy that hit his head and now thinks he was witness to the moment of creation? Sorry... but you're gonna have to give me a moment to appreciate the irony here...
...ok, moment is over.
As for the Soul comment by you- yes it does, Jester. And I only state this for your benefit. I would like nothing better than to get into an extreme discussion with you on the existence of Souls. However, as of now, I can find no purpose to that with you.
I see... so this amazing insight that you were going to get from my answer to an ambiguous question... this insight cannot be discussed because you don't see a reason to explain yourself or describe your reasoning...
ok... that makes sense.
And, NO- I do not make a distinction between one must believing in either the Big Bang, or Creationism. NO. I would have thought that obvious to you. I believe Theistic Evolution to be on the right track, with a modification of the actual Big Bang. I know the Genesis Account is not how it began; and, I believe that for what I know of the Evolutionism, that they have it right- THOUGH, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CANNOT FIND AN EXPLANATION BY SAID EVOLUTIONISTS ON HOW THE VERY FIRST SEEDS WERE PLANTED TO ALL LIFE FORMS, INCLUDING THE INTELLIGENT BEINGS SUCH AS YOU AND I. *************AND THIS IS THE KEY- BECAUSE I BELIEVE A GOD, OR GODS, PLANTED THOSE SEEDS ON THE EARTH, AND ON NUMEROUS OTHER CELESTIAL BODIES THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE.
Wow... you gettin a little worked-up there sparky?
Let me get this straight... you like the Theory of Evolution, and you're only problem is that you haven't seen what science has to say about how life started?
Well, it's your lucky day. May I introduce you to the field of Abiogenesis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
Jester, all I'm saying is that the Evolutionists are mostly right, and the Creationists are partly right; but, that neither is correct, as they theorize.
Quick point: Scientists theorize, creationists postulate.
What I know of Souls is a seperate issue to the "Spinning Wheels." What I know of Souls does mesh with the belief in metempsychosis, as it also did with Edgar C., but I don't feel it right to expound upon such in this forum's location. I believe in God, or Gods/Creator, or Creators, and that each intelligent Being has a Soul which cannot die. Therefore, I am not aligned with Christian dogma, or any other dogma. All I know, Jester, and all who read this, is what I HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO REMEMBER, compliments of a serious car accident on the morning of 11/2/68.
That's ok... lots of other people like to make up their own realities too.
Oh, Jester, and by the way, my writings, compliments of Notebood Folders, is well on it's way.
Juvenissun- the car accident on the forementioned date allowed me to connect with the greater part of my Soul, as well as meet with "the old man," who some would call my Guardian Angel. I do not think of the old man as such. We conversed, looking down on the accident site from some 75' above the ground. The last thing he told me was, "You will remember." It took me some time, with all that was going on in my post-accident physical reality, to fully comprehend what his words meant, but I do. I have memories of more than just this life, Juvenissun.
I have taken much dimwitted ridicule from some in this forum, and I hope you are not of those. If you seek, then I hope you will respond in kind. If you can only CRITICIZE, then please keep your dimwitted mouth shut.
I'm sorry... could you repeat all that? The Twilight Zone theme started drowning you out about 7 words in...