special relativity prove the truthfulness of Quran !! how

[Lord Emsworth]

Do I get this right? In order to get to heaven one needs to traverse just enough of space?

*groans*

 

[elwill]

No. The speed of light is exactly 299,792,458 m s[sup]-1[/sup].

ok , i got your point

Why will it?

i described what happens with earth - moon system when we conluds that as the moon recedes from Earth its spin with respect to stars slows down that is, it loses rotational kinetic energy If the distance to the Earth increases to infinity, the moon would stop spinning with respect to stars and hence its rotational kinetic energy decreases to zero.
the same with sun , as the earth -moon system recades from sun it loses rational kinitic energy

What? Yes, I did. I used both values and showed that 60000 is more accurate than 50000.

Using 50000, v = 299,792,457.99991965 m s[sup]-1[/sup]
Using 60000, v = 299,792,457.9999442 m s[sup]-1[/sup]
The speed of light is 299,792,458

So you can see that 60000 gives a value of v that is closer to c than that given by 50000.

well done
so i was wrong
quran mentioned us that angeles travel in this speed 299,792,457.99991965 where i thought that it's the speed of light .

but your point is that 299,792,457.99991965 not the same as speed of light which should to be 299,792,458

well i'm sorry , angeles not travel at speed of light but they travel in 299,792,457.99991965 . ( if scientist not consider this value to be the speed of light , so i have to confess that i was wrong )

Why would he encode such valuable information in such a vague and convoluted way? Why did he not also include information on how to cure disease, bring peace to all men, to end discrimination and bloody violence, etc?

he encode such information in such vague and convoluted way as to be indicator for us and for the generation of science that this quran is the word of God .

 

[Wiccan_Child]

i described what happens with earth - moon system when we conluds that as the moon recedes from Earth its spin with respect to stars slows down that is, it loses rotational kinetic energy If the distance to the Earth increases to infinity, the moon would stop spinning with respect to stars and hence its rotational kinetic energy decreases to zero.
the same with sun , as the earth -moon system recades from sun it loses rational kinitic energy

But how does this affect the orbit-to-day ratio?

he encode such information in such vague and convoluted way as to be indicator for us and for the generation of science that this quran is the word of God .

Surely this would be better accomplished by making it more explicit? And I still don't know why he didn't encode useful information, like medication.

 

[elwill]

But how does this affect the orbit-to-day ratio?

do you mean how the distance of sun affect the orbit-to-day ration ?

Surely this would be better accomplished by making it more explicit? And I still don't know why he didn't encode useful information, like medication.

quran gave us usfull information in every aspect and in every kind of science , sayings of mohammed (pbuh) either have many examples

as for medication

"Your Lord revealed to the bees: "Build dwellings in the mountains and the trees, and also in the structures which men erect. Then eat from every kind of fruit and travel the paths of your Lord, which have been made easy for you to follow." From inside them comes a drink of varying colours, containing healing for mankind. There is certainly a Sign in that for people who reflect" (16: 68)


“ He has forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine.” (2: 173)

“Forbidden to you are carrion, blood and flesh of swine, and that which has been hallowed to other than Allah, and that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; and that which has been partly eaten by a wild animal-excepting that you have sacrificed duly…” (4:3)


all of these forbidden things brings to us the protection from disease

The Prophet (PBUH) said; "The son-of-Adam never fills a bowl worse than his belly. Some bites are enough for man to prop his physique. Had he wished otherwise, then one third for his food, and one third for his drink, and one third for his breath."

and there are many healthy benefits for fasting of muslims in ramadan

IT is a long-established custom among Muslim parents to put a piece of well-chewed date (or other available sweet fruit) in the mouth of a newborn baby. Muslims do this following the practice of the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)
placing a ‘sugary substance’ inside the mouth of a new-born baby dramatically reduces pain sensation and heart rate. An interesting scientific medical study, published in the British Medical Journal (No 6993, 10 June 1995), proved beyond any doubt the benefit of giving a new-born child sugar, in order to reduce the feeling of any painful procedure like heel pricking for a blood sample or before circumcision.

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:«Plague is calamity which was sent to the people of Israel.If you hear of the presence of plague in a land,do not enter it,but if it spreads in the land where you are,do not fly from it.» Bukhary and Moslim agreed upon it.It is correct.

Quarantine is one of the most important methods to resist the spreading of the epidemic diseases. It is apparent, as presented, in the sacred prophetic Hadith that they define the principals of quarantine. It prevents people from entering a plaguy area, as well as it prevents its people from running out of it. The quarantine is a new concept that was known recently for humanbeing and it is still being applied until today.​

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[Nathan45]

all of these forbidden things brings to us the protection from disease

Having eaten ham and bacon many times, i will say, it tastes very good and i haven't had any problems with this disease you speak of.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

do you mean how the distance of sun affect the orbit-to-day ration ?

Yes.

quran gave us usfull information in every aspect and in every kind of science , sayings of mohammed (pbuh) either have many examples

as for medication

"Your Lord revealed to the bees: "Build dwellings in the mountains and the trees, and also in the structures which men erect. Then eat from every kind of fruit and travel the paths of your Lord, which have been made easy for you to follow." From inside them comes a drink of varying colours, containing healing for mankind. There is certainly a Sign in that for people who reflect" (16: 68)

Every kind of fruit? You mean like Solanaceae (the Nightshade family)?

“ He has forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine.” (2: 173)

Dead meat? You realise that all meat is dead, right? Or does Allah want us eat cows and chickens that are still walking around?

And what's wrong with consuming blood and pork?

“Forbidden to you are carrion, blood and flesh of swine, and that which has been hallowed to other than Allah, and that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; and that which has been partly eaten by a wild animal-excepting that you have sacrificed duly…” (4:3)

Again, just more arbitrary dietary laws. Indicative of the culture of the time, not of divine providence.

all of these forbidden things brings to us the protection from disease

The Prophet (PBUH) said; "The son-of-Adam never fills a bowl worse than his belly. Some bites are enough for man to prop his physique. Had he wished otherwise, then one third for his food, and one third for his drink, and one third for his breath."

and there are many healthy benefits for fasting of muslims in ramadan

Such as?

IT is a long-established custom among Muslim parents to put a piece of well-chewed date (or other available sweet fruit) in the mouth of a newborn baby. Muslims do this following the practice of the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)
placing a ‘sugary substance’ inside the mouth of a new-born baby dramatically reduces pain sensation and heart rate. An interesting scientific medical study, published in the British Medical Journal (No 6993, 10 June 1995), proved beyond any doubt the benefit of giving a new-born child sugar, in order to reduce the feeling of any painful procedure like heel pricking for a blood sample or before circumcision.

Which raises another question: circumcision. What on Earth is that for?

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:«Plague is calamity which was sent to the people of Israel.If you hear of the presence of plague in a land,do not enter it,but if it spreads in the land where you are,do not fly from it.» Bukhary and Moslim agreed upon it.It is correct.

Quarantine is one of the most important methods to resist the spreading of the epidemic diseases. It is apparent, as presented, in the sacred prophetic Hadith that they define the principals of quarantine. It prevents people from entering a plaguy area, as well as it prevents its people from running out of it. The quarantine is a new concept that was known recently for humanbeing and it is still being applied until today.​

Again, this isn't divine providence, this is common sense: plagues are infectious, so it makes sense to avoid the infected. Any fool can realise this.