speaking the word over inanimate objects

[now faith]

First off, I am not word of faith and never will be. I am a bible believing Christian. Debating is not going to get anywhere. So, I thought to talk about my experiences, what I believe and give testimony to the greatness of God, for His praise and glory. For the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy.

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of tongues after being given an unction of singing "Lord Jesus teach my soul to pray". Since then I have prayed against storms, binded child abductors and loosed them to the authorities and the child to their parents. I prayed very fervently in the Spirit for my brother on my face that he would be spared and healed from his wife beating in his head with a hammer when he was asleep. He died but a voice spoke to me and said "Your brother is in heaven". I get to see him again one day.

Being a Christian has not been all prosperity and great experiences. It is the hardest life I have ever lived and I would not trade anything for it. Since I have been born-again, resisting the devil to shed blood, I have had fierce battles with peace and moments of rest.

As for praying over inanimate objects, I did ask God for a new truck. I have had it since about 2008. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." I saw my truck in a dream, then shortly after my dad bought it outright for cash and I paid him back every penny.

As for praying for animate objects, I did pray for my girlfriend's knee and her leg is healed. But "faith without works is dead". With my love for her, I got her ice and plastic bags, and took care of her. The good samaritan would do the same.

But do not get me wrong. I am not bragging about being powerful. Without God and faith, I could not do this stuff on my own. We do not do good works to earn grace but we accept His grace as a free gift and are created as a workmanship by Him to do good works.

I hope this gives you all a good insight into me, instead of refuting false preachers, teachers, and doctrine. Besides, as I do have a good knowledge of many religions, I find I know more about say Mormon doctrines, Jehovah Witness doctrines, and other religion's doctrines than most who have been in them for years. Praise God that as we exercise our senses we can discern between good and evil. And I can assuredly say that I see things more clearly than I did in the past years and better than many who have been sitting in church for several decades.

In fact, if we all want to pray over a good object, then pray for this great country America because we have been in a moral decline for many decades. I love this country and the freedom we have but our freedom also means that people can do what they want whether it is good or evil. Jesus Christ needs to be once again lifted up in this nation so that we may have a time of refreshing. But if heavy persecution is coming here then so be it. Even so, come Lord Jesus, come.

You have a eye problem.
Your vision is blurred as to who bound the storm and the other events mentioned.

I have no doubt you love the Lord and have a great measure of Faith.

Here is my opinion on I:

Philippians: 4. 13. I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

 

[bloodbought09]

You have a eye problem.
Your vision is blurred as to who bound the storm and the other events mentioned.

I have no doubt you love the Lord and have a great measure of Faith.

Here is my opinion on I:

Philippians: 4. 13. I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

I always like to walk circumspectly around the verses because the couple of verses before this one really puts it into context.

Phillipians 4:12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound, every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

This is why I made my boast in the Lord and said I could not do these things through my own power, because someone like you is going to point out my pride. If you look back on my last post and read through it maybe you will not have an eye problem pointing out what is not there.

Anyhow, what man does not love power and the power gifts of the Holy Spirit are quite magnificent. But I also love wisdom and knowledge. So, I will make my boast in the power of God. Right now I am feeling the effects of growing older, aching all over my body but with God I get up each day and work through it.

 

[bloodbought09]

I watched word of faith preachers for years. I could definitely pass in a word of faith forum. I know enough of catholic and mormon doctrine that I could pass among them as well. But I am presently attending Calvary Chapel, which I love, because they hold tight to morality and the word of God unwavering. So while I like to live a victorious and powerful life in Christ, I also supplement it with the word of God and true doctrine. I stay away from:

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

 

[now faith]

I watched word of faith preachers for years. I could definitely pass in a word of faith forum. I know enough of catholic and mormon doctrine that I could pass among them as well. But I am presently attending Calvary Chapel, which I love, because they hold tight to morality and the word of God unwavering. So while I like to live a victorious and powerful life in Christ, I also supplement it with the word of God and true doctrine. I stay away from:

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

I do not want to offend you,but Mormon and Catholic doctrines have nothing in common with Word of Faith,not even with each other.
A Baptist doctrine would be a good one to hang your hat rather than Mormon.

You go to a Church that you love and holds tight to morality,and the Word of God.

I am trying not to be critical to offend you,but your statements are a bit out of line.

We do not supplement with God's Word and place morality before it.

That would be a type of legalism that places the creature before the creator.

It is easy to get tossed around in doctrine,by listening to a man, how do you think cults begin?

There is only God's Word as your foundation,and Satan has taken that and convoluted it by changing it.

There have been at least 200 new translations in the past 30 years,what was wrong with the most common original Bible that brought millions to Christ?
Confusion is Satan's tool to distract us to show us cults and doctrines of devils.

 

[bloodbought09]

I do not want to offend you,but Mormon and Catholic doctrines have nothing in common with Word of Faith,not even with each other.
A Baptist doctrine would be a good one to hang your hat rather than Mormon.

You go to a Church that you love and holds tight to morality,and the Word of God.

I am trying not to be critical to offend you,but your statements are a bit out of line.

We do not supplement with God's Word and place morality before it.

That would be a type of legalism that places the creature before the creator.

It is easy to get tossed around in doctrine,by listening to a man, how do you think cults begin?

There is only God's Word as your foundation,and Satan has taken that and convoluted it by changing it.

There have been at least 200 new translations in the past 30 years,what was wrong with the most common original Bible that brought millions to Christ?
Confusion is Satan's tool to distract us to show us cults and doctrines of devils.

I agree that the word of God is first and foremost. And I did not mean to say that morality is above God's word. I have strong morals and it does not make me a legalist. I am not setting forth any rules and guidelines. Grace is a free gift from God and to work for it is counted debt. Nothing can buy His unmerited favor.

Again, discernment is key, and God gives it to His children. I am sure you will agree.

Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

When Jesus was around there was only the disciples and they won people to Christ. They did not have a bible in their hand like us. But, I agree, my KJV is a great translation. God is not the author of confusion and my bible is the final authority on matters and issues.

Cults and doctrines of devils, seducing spirits often go hand in hand. As for Mormonism, it is on my mind quite frequently because my own sister is caught up in the cult. Part of what I enjoy as being a born-again Christian is to learn about cults and religions and to have a heart to pull people out of deception.

Word of Faith aside: I just do not care about the title or to even try to prove it right or wrong. I am a part of God's elect, the body of Christ, His bride. I do not need a label on my faith. I know Him and He knows me. That is good enough for me.

 

[hhodgson]

God is not the author of confusion and my bible is the final authority on matters and issues.

Word of Faith aside: I just do not care about the title or to even try to prove it right or wrong. I am a part of God's elect, the body of Christ, His bride. I do not need a label on my faith. I know Him and He knows me. That is good enough for me.

Absolutely correct bloodbought... But... my Bible is (also) the final authority on all matters and issues. We ALL know... that we can ALL say the same thing. That is not where the problem is (as you well know), the problem is our interpretations. Satan has done a masterful job of division over the centuries... as we have put the best of our scholars... against the best of their scholars... only, to end up wearing different denominational "name tags."

Satan used our pride and arrogance along with his deception against each other in the Body of Christ that helped created 40,000 denoms around the world to the point that many (even church leaders) are actually fearful of being caught fellowshipping with someone of another "faith"... especially, if that "faith" is branded heretical (or being accused of) in their teaching such as, Word of Faith, extreme grace, etc... His "finished works" is more than extreme... It's indescribable!

Example: "Wow, I am at a prayer breakfast with mixed Pentecostal pastors in my area sharing the Word together... and I am a Baptist pastor!!! What would my parishioners think if they would see me here?" Satan was winning this divisional war for centuries and he "thinks" it will continue and worsen in the last days... and it may, however... He knows his time is short... but, he forgot one thing!

Christians, all over the world are hearing the full message of Grace of His... "Good News." They are discovering how much God (really) Loves them as they (fully) understand the "finished works" of Jesus Christ on the cross. It's ALL about His Love... that is breaking Satan's power of pride, arrogance and deception all over the world today for those who (dare) to believe.

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[bloodbought09]

If Jesus be lifted up, He will draw all men unto Him. He was and is lifted up. Christ in us, the hope of glory.

 

[now faith]

If Jesus be lifted up, He will draw all men unto Him. He was and is lifted up. Christ in us, the hope of glory.

You are right we are in Christ and only him alone.
Theology is man's vice there is only one truth ,and that is our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.y

 

[bloodbought09]

I actually like a bit of theology. If it is of good report, then it is just fine. There are things that honor God in theology. Actually really do like Charles Spurgeon.

 

[hhodgson]

I actually like a bit of theology. If it is of good report, then it is just fine. There are things that honor God in theology. Actually really do like Charles Spurgeon.

Then you may like this for your enjoyment, bloodbought... for he was a tremendous Grace teacher in his time.

http://escapetoreality.org/2010/11/15/spurgeon-on-grace

Be blessed to be a BLESSING... (as Spurgeon was)

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[de1929]

I agree, the basis is Mark 11:24
New International Version
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

believe and it shall be yours.

new age has things called law-of-attraction, and it is stolen from Mark 11:24. They steal from bible (john 10:10 devil come to steal, kill , and destroy). They removing JESUS from Mark 11:24.

what's the relationship with our mouth and our believe. our mouth propel our believe, our believe will attract the money (or blessing in general).

I am a very logical person, so i always do budgeting a lot. But the problem i was not able to separate my brain from budgeting and my brain from believing in GOD. focusing on budgeting means focusing that we have lack of money to circle europe 1000 times, example. focusing on believing GOD means focusing we (under GOD's grace) is able to circle europe 1000 times.

so which one correct ? both are correct. but we don't meditate on budgeting constraint. we meditate on GOD's grace.

if we meditate on budgeting constraint, it will attract poverty, because budgeting constraint is becoming our believe (aka fear no money) and it will come to you because you believe it.

if we meditate on GOD's grace, it will attract GOD's grace, because GOD's grace is becoming our believe (real believe) and it will come to you because you believe it.

I call this things believe-system. No wonder the women with bleeding problem got her miracles.

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back to wallet
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as i do budgeting a lot, it's easy to spot i have no money to do many activities. so i gave thanks the purse already filled. I takes time, but i record some milestone. Allow me to share in lesser detail:
1st milestone: Money is not always in wallet, can be in bank as well.
2nd milestone: What's the point having money but always go to doctor. pocket in / out. I have some health problem, so GOD told me to patch the health problem. It will in turn... filling the pocket halleluyah. i have more room for another budget
3rd milestone: fixing my relationship with other people. I was very independent and usually don't ask people help. So it means everything is doing myself or buy. Now i have enough ppl skills and comfortability to ask ppl help... wow... i can save more money.. means... i am have more space.
4th milestone: GOD gave me work that i almost does not work but get salaried. it means a lot i think you can imagine.
5th milestone: somebody simply gave me money, buying food, help me with A,B,C... means ... i don't have to use my budgets.

pay attention: i wrote i gave thanks the purse already filled. i did not say i speak money to fill the wallet. that's very different.

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What if i say i speak money to fill the wallet
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it declares that you don't have the money now, so you can't give thanks. This will amplify your lacking. This faith / fear calls poverty to come.

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What if i say i speak more money to fill the wallet
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it declares that you already have money now, so i can give thanks. Then i give thanks that more money to come. This is the believe that will bring wealth to you.

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make sure you pay attention the mindset, and wording. It displays what you believe is. Be blessed. Your mental picture (what's in your head) is actualy what you believe is. Some people call it what you imagine, or what you visualize. matter what you visualize, matter what you imagine, matter what you believe. They all are interconnected well. Too bad new age steal it first so i look like preaching new age right ?

I am not preaching new age. I am a christian, believe JESUS is GOD and i already have HIM as savior long time ago. JESUS is my king, my friend, and my everything. Halleluyah. Amin.

 

[Truthfrees]

I agree, the basis is Mark 11:24
New International Version
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

believe and it shall be yours.

new age has things called law-of-attraction, and it is stolen from Mark 11:24. They steal from bible (john 10:10 devil come to steal, kill , and destroy). They removing JESUS from Mark 11:24.

what's the relationship with our mouth and our believe. our mouth propel our believe, our believe will attract the money (or blessing in general).

I am a very logical person, so i always do budgeting a lot. But the problem i was not able to separate my brain from budgeting and my brain from believing in GOD. focusing on budgeting means focusing that we have lack of money to circle europe 1000 times, example. focusing on believing GOD means focusing we (under GOD's grace) is able to circle europe 1000 times.

so which one correct ? both are correct. but we don't meditate on budgeting constraint. we meditate on GOD's grace.

if we meditate on budgeting constraint, it will attract poverty, because budgeting constraint is becoming our believe (aka fear no money) and it will come to you because you believe it.

if we meditate on GOD's grace, it will attract GOD's grace, because GOD's grace is becoming our believe (real believe) and it will come to you because you believe it.

I call this things believe-system. No wonder the women with bleeding problem got her miracles.

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back to wallet
----------------

as i do budgeting a lot, it's easy to spot i have no money to do many activities. so i gave thanks the purse already filled. I takes time, but i record some milestone. Allow me to share in lesser detail:
1st milestone: Money is not always in wallet, can be in bank as well.
2nd milestone: What's the point having money but always go to doctor. pocket in / out. I have some health problem, so GOD told me to patch the health problem. It will in turn... filling the pocket halleluyah. i have more room for another budget
3rd milestone: fixing my relationship with other people. I was very independent and usually don't ask people help. So it means everything is doing myself or buy. Now i have enough ppl skills and comfortability to ask ppl help... wow... i can save more money.. means... i am have more space.
4th milestone: GOD gave me work that i almost does not work but get salaried. it means a lot i think you can imagine.
5th milestone: somebody simply gave me money, buying food, help me with A,B,C... means ... i don't have to use my budgets.

pay attention: i wrote i gave thanks the purse already filled. i did not say i speak money to fill the wallet. that's very different.

-------------------------------------------------
What if i say i speak money to fill the wallet
-------------------------------------------------

it declares that you don't have the money now, so you can't give thanks. This will amplify your lacking. This faith / fear calls poverty to come.

-------------------------------------------------
What if i say i speak more money to fill the wallet
-------------------------------------------------

it declares that you already have money now, so i can give thanks. Then i give thanks that more money to come. This is the believe that will bring wealth to you.

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make sure you pay attention the mindset, and wording. It displays what you believe is. Be blessed. Your mental picture (what's in your head) is actualy what you believe is. Some people call it what you imagine, or what you visualize. matter what you visualize, matter what you imagine, matter what you believe. They all are interconnected well. Too bad new age steal it first so i look like preaching new age right ?

I am not preaching new age. I am a christian, believe JESUS is GOD and i already have HIM as savior long time ago. JESUS is my king, my friend, and my everything. Halleluyah. Amin.

Good word.

 

[de1929]

Good word.

lol... now i am being scanned by wof brother

 

[tulipbee]

I know in the bible there are references where ppl spoke over an inanimate object with the word. Bill Winston mentioned to speak over your purse and confess the word that there is more money in it. Your thoughts?

Jesus spoke at a basket and out came fish. There are stories that a person can make objects appear out of thin air

 

[de1929]

Jesus spoke at a basket and out came fish. There are stories that a person can make objects appear out of thin air

https://www.facebook.com/Pdt.DR.Ir.Niko.Njotorahardjo
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_Njotorahardjo

Pdt Niko from indonesia (facebook above) has his testimony similar like that. I forgot the detail, but what i remember is: when he opened a box, there is money there. He cannot remember why there is money there. in other word, he simply saying there is no way this box can have money. Then his response simply: miracle ! ...

Pak Niko has around 250k member. The churches were lead by local pastor (under his leadership) and spread among smaller churches, ranging form 100 to 3000 congregations. I grew in his church, but not directly under him. I grew under some local pastor.

 

[hhodgson]

lol... now i am being scanned by wof brother

The rest of us are also...

Be Blessed to be a BLESSING...

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