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So now you tell me why a woman that had no plans of ever knowing a man would betroth herself to a man?
How without speculation, does her asking Gabriel how she will give birth get projected into a life long committment to chastity? Remember she was espoused to Joseph before Gabriel showed up.Paul says that each has a particular calling - skopos. Not all have the same calling. There was no need in the epistles to correct anyone who thought that Mary had other children - this teaching of men that Mary had other children was not a problem in the Churches Paul wrote to.
Luke travelled with Paul; Luke wrote the most detail about Mary. Luke writes that Mary did not limit the verb when she said "I know not a man", but includes the future in her statement. This shows that Mary having other children is a teaching of men.
Wow. That makes Joseph "God's Protector". Theoprotektros. Awesome dude, that Joeseph.
please read the verses in Luke 1 -- why do you not keep the clear meaning of the verse instead of changing it ?
Is the tense of one word what you base your conclusion about a life long committment to chastity? Seems like a leap AND a stretch.
Say what? What problem? Me? Problem? No problem here. Jesus is God, Joseph protected Him, so Joseph is God's protector.quote=Philothei; No it makes him a God-man's protector...why you have a problem with it?
Exactly, so why razz me about it?Joseph and Mary travelled to Egypt to "save" Christ from being killed by Herod... Was Joseph needed for that? Yeah actually he was an awesome "dude"
please give the verse/s that support what you say
Because it is a silly question.That is much better than the "stretch" you all have to do to prove the Trinity....where is the word Trinity in the Bible I asked and no one answered...
No it makes him a God-man's protector...why you have a problem with it?
If Mary was expecting to get married and consummate that marriage then she wouldnt have been so shocked when the Angel told her she would conceive, bc he didnt say she would conceive immediately so the normal thought would have been that he meant once she was married. but she knew she was never going to consummate her betrothal, and thus the Angel's announcement is quite strange to her.[/quote]
maybe if we put the pica size up....people will respond?
Exactly the Angel did not specify time... So if she was getting married why the suprise???? She would have been saying "oh...wonderful news..." Thanks... but instead she says ....."I AM a virgin" why saying that is she was going to be married????
The text is obvious....your minds are the ones who deny to read it as is....
The substantiation for the Trinity is far & away more & better than the vainly imaginative specultions about Mary's perpetual virginity.
On every point about it speculation has to be employed. Not so in the case of the Trinity. Give up thinkin' they are remotely similar.
God does not deceive people. This is absurb.. He is Holy and truth. Legally pregnant?I already said it in my previous post. God wanted her to be betrothled as she had to be "legally" pregnant with Christ so she would not be an unmarried maiden and be stoned to death... according to Jewish custom... To be protected as Joseph was the protector of her. It was divine providence.
If Mary was expecting to get married and consummate that marriage then she wouldnt have been so shocked when the Angel told her she would conceive, bc he didnt say she would conceive immediately so the normal thought would have been that he meant once she was married. but she knew she was never going to consummate her betrothal, and thus the Angel's announcement is quite strange to her.[/quote]maybe if we put the pica size up....people will respond?
Exactly the Angel did not specify time... So if she was getting married why the suprise???? She would have been saying "oh...wonderful news..." Thanks... but instead she says ....."I AM a virgin" why saying that is she was going to be married????
The text is obvious....your minds are the ones who deny to read it as is.... The text shows that when Gabriel summoned Mary that she was not married as of yet.. This is why she states she was not knowing a man. It is in the presense text. the verb to know (γινώσκω ginōskō) is in the present active indicative If God wanted to hide Mary from men why was it prophecied that this was going to happen. You guys make no sense..
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