Space Monkies.

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zspeedyrabit said in post #1:

We are currently in the chapter 11 process of Revelation.

We aren't there yet, for Rev. chs. 6-10 haven't even started yet, and Rev. chs. 6-22 are chronological, insofar as the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18 will begin with the events of the 2nd through 6th seals, occurring in the order shown in Rev. 6:3-14. After the events of the 6th seal, Rev. 7 will occur. Then the 7th seal will be unsealed and out of it will come the 7 trumpets of the trib (Rev. 8:1-6). Then the events of the 1st six trumpets in Rev. 8:7-9:21 will occur in the order shown there. Then Rev. 10 will occur. Then the literal 3.5 years of the worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the AC) will occur, which time period is shown from 4 different angles in Rev. chs. 11-14 (Rev. 11:2b-3, 12:6,14, 13:5,7, 14:9-13). Then the 7th trumpet will sound, announcing the legal end of the AC's reign (Rev. 11:15). Out of the heavenly temple opening of the 7th trumpet will come the 7 plagues of the 7 vials (or bowls) of the trib (Rev. 11:19, 15:5-16:1). Then the 7 vials of the trib (its final stage) will occur (Rev. 16). Then Jesus will return immediately after the trib (Mt. 24:29-31) and defeat the AC and reign on the earth with the physically resurrected church for 1,000 years (Rev. 19:7-20:6). Then the events of Rev. 20:7-22:5 will occur in the order shown there.

The future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18 will begin with a horrible war, which, with its aftermath of famines and epidemics, will end up killing a fourth of the world (Rev. 6:4-8). The "great sword" of this war (Rev. 6:4) could be Israel's nuclear weapons. After that, there will be a terrible series of natural disasters historically unprecedented in their magnitude, such as a gigantic volcanic eruption (Rev. 6:12-14), possibly of the Yellowstone Caldera, and then the collapse into the ocean of another volcano (Rev. 8:8-9), possibly one of the Canary Islands, the collapse of which could set up a huge tsunami which could destroy the Eastern seaboard of the U.S. If such a tsunami occurs, it could cause a string of awful, Fukushima-style nuclear-meltdown radiation disasters in the nuclear power plants and their nuclear-waste storage facilities along the Eastern seaboard of the U.S. Also, if the tsunami breaks open the germ-containment structures on Plum Island, just off the coast of Connecticut, especially-deadly viruses and bacteria could be washed inland and spread across the U.S. as they infect animals and people.

After the volcanic activity and possible tsunami, a comet will strike the earth (Rev. 8:10-11), possibly in the U.S./Canadian Great Lakes region. As the comet falls from the sky it will look like a great star, or like a burning lamp in the sky (Rev. 8:10). It will strike a region of the earth which contains a third of the world's fresh surface water (Rev. 8:10b), and it will contain some poisonous element which will poison that third of the world's fresh surface water so that many who drink from it will die (Rev. 8:11b). After that will come a one-two punch of what the world could initially try to interpret as being two different alien invasions, the first "aliens" being weird locust-like beings which will suddenly swarm up from the bottomless pit of the earth to torment mankind with excruciating stings for five months (Rev. 9:2-10). They will be led by a fallen angel named Abaddon (Rev. 9:11). The world could see the weird locust-like beings coming up from the ground as aliens who had been hibernating for thousands of years in a cavern deep underground. The locust-like beings won't kill anyone, but they will make those they sting want to die the pain will be so bad (Rev. 9:5-6).

After the locust-like beings have stung mankind for five months, an army of 200,000,000 weird horse-like beings will come upon the earth and kill a third of mankind (Rev. 9:16-19). This army will be led by four powerful fallen angels who will be released from being bound at the Euphrates river (Rev. 9:14-15). If the army of horse-like beings descends from the sky in spaceships, the world could at first see them as a different race of aliens, but the Antichrist could (falsely) say that they're the main army of YHWH. In fact, the army could be loyal to Lucifer/Satan instead. The four fallen angels could employ the army to make mankind completely desperate before its complete takeover by Lucifer (the dragon) and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) mid-tribulation (Rev. 12:9-13:18).

 

[Bible2]

zspeedyrabit said in post #1:

We are currently in the chapter 11 process of Revelation.

We aren't there yet, for Rev. 11 begins by referring to the 3rd Jewish temple building which doesn't exist yet, but will exist during the coming tribulation (Rev. 11:1-2, Mt. 24:15, Dan. 11:31,36, 2 Thes. 2:4). It will coexist with the church like the second Jewish temple did (Luke 24:53, Acts 22:17) and like the temple building in heaven does (Revelation 11:19). It could be built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem by the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel after they clear the site by destroying the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque.

Shortly after the ultra-Orthodox Jews complete the third temple, the Antichrist could attack and defeat them and a false Messiah leading them (Daniel 11:22). Then the Antichrist could "cut" a peace treaty with them and their false "Messiah" (Daniel 9:26a, Daniel 11:23a) permitting them to keep the temple and to continue to perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of it for at least seven more years (Daniel 9:27a), so long as they give up the outer court of the temple (Revelation 11:2a) to the Muslims so that the Muslims can rebuild the Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount and resume worship there. The ultra-Orthodox Jews could grudgingly agree to this, if the only other option is for them to lose the temple entirely. They could then build a huge wall between the temple and the southern part of the Temple Mount, in order to keep the temple from being defiled.

But then, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty, the Antichrist will break the treaty, attack the temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) in the holy place of the temple (Daniel 9:27b, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15), and then sit himself in the temple and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). Thus could begin the Antichrist's literal 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, 2 Thessalonians 2:9).

We are currently in the chapter 11 process of Revelation.

We aren't there yet, for the two witnesses (Revelation 11:3-12) aren't here yet. They could be Moses and Elijah, for the two people seen "standing before the God of the earth" (Revelation 11:4) at the transfiguration were Moses and Elijah (Matthew 17:3). They could come down from heaven in their mortal bodies mid-tribulation, just as they came down from heaven in their mortal bodies at the transfiguration. Also, the plagues which will be caused by the two witnesses (Revelation 11:6,5) will match plagues caused by Moses and Elijah in their mortal bodies in the Old Testament (James 5:17, Exodus 7:20, 2 Kings 1:10-14). Elijah never died, but was taken alive in his mortal body into heaven (2 Kings 2:11b). And Michael the archangel retrieved the recently dead body of Moses from the devil (Jude 1:9). Michael could have then taken Moses' body into heaven, where it could have been resuscitated back to mortal life, like, for example, the recently dead body of Lazarus was resuscitated back to mortal life (John 12:1). This would explain how both Moses and Elijah could appear alive and well at the transfiguration (Matthew 17:3).

The two witnesses will bring their plagues upon the world during the future, literal 3.5 years (Revelation 11:2b-3) of the worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) (Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 12:6). That's why the reign of the Antichrist will legally end (Revelation 11:15) right after the time of the two witnesses on the earth will end (Revelation 11:12-15). The plagues which the two witnesses will bring upon the earth (Revelation 11:6) will be part of the second woe/sixth trumpet of the tribulation (Revelation 11:14, Revelation 9:12-13). The two witnesses will be taken up into heaven before the seventh trumpet of the tribulation sounds (Revelation 11:12,15).

The 2 witnesses may not be witnesses in the sense of evangelizing the world (Acts 1:8), for the original Greek word (martus, G3144) translated as "witnesses" (Rev. 11:3) can also refer to those who witness against people and bring punishment against them (Acts 7:58). The reason there will be 2 witnesses (Rev. 11:3) who will bring awful plagues to torment the unrepentant world (Rev. 11:6,10b) would be because at least 2 witnesses are required to bring judgment against people (1 Tim. 5:19). At the same time, the 2 "witnesses" could also be called that because both of them will be martyred (Rev. 11:7-9), for the same Greek word translated as "witnesses" (Rev. 11:3) can also refer to "martyrs" (Rev. 17:6).

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by garry2 Is it sad or is it evil, she has posted here under many user names, and sometimes she posts vert intelligently, even sometimes under this user name "zspeedyrabit".
She is here to mock Christainity, and many are liking her humorous posts that tickle their ears.
My opinion.

Thanks for the .
I had never seen her before because I was gone for awhile. My first impression was some form of Schizophrenia.

What would be your 2nd impression


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zspeedyrabit said in post #1:

I believe Satan is currently in Heavenly places (Ephesians 2:2. Ephesians 6:12) . . .

Satan's currently walking around on the earth seeking whom he may devour (1 Pet. 5:8), though he still has access to heaven (Job 1:6-7, 2:1-2), & he won't lose that access until he & his angels lose a future, mid-trib war in heaven (Rev. 12:7-17).

Eph. 2:2's "air" refers to the earth's atmosphere, & Eph. 6:12's "high places" refers to outer space above the atmosphere.

There are 3 heavens (2 Cor. 12:2b). The 1st heaven is the sky, the atmosphere, in which the birds fly (Gen. 1:20b). The 2nd heaven is outer space, where the sun, moon, & stars reside (Deut. 4:19). Where God resides is the 3rd heaven (2 Cor. 12:2b, Rev. 4:1-2), and so it's beyond outer space, in a higher (i.e. a 4th) spatial dimension. And it's a physical place, for Jesus ascended there in his physical resurrection body (Acts 1:9-11, Lk. 24:39), & Paul said he could have visited there in his physical body (2 Cor. 12:2). In the 3rd heaven, there's currently a literal city 1,500 miles cubed (Rev. 21:16) called New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:2, Heb. 12:22, Gal. 4:26). In the future, God will create a new earth (a new surface of the earth) & a new heaven (a new 1st heaven, a new atmosphere for the earth) and he'll descend from the 3rd heaven to the new earth in New Jerusalem to live with people on the new earth (Rev. 21:1-3). It's New Jerusalem which has the literal pearly gates & streets of gold (Rev. 21:21) that people ascribe to "heaven". So what people think of as "heaven", in the sense of living in bliss with God, will eventually be on the new earth.

The 3rd heaven isn't a future time (as is sometimes claimed), but a past, present, & future place (see above). It's where paradise is (2 Cor. 12:2,4). And paradise is where believers go when they die (Lk. 23:43,46). So believers go to the 3rd heaven when they die. And paradise is where the literal tree of life is (Rev. 2:7), which is in New Jerusalem (Rev. 22:2), which is the Jerusalem which is now "above" us (Gal. 4:26) in the (3rd) heaven (Heb. 12:22). For it will come "down" out of (the 3rd) heaven to the new earth (Rev. 21:1-3, 3:12). Therefore, when Paul was taken to paradise in the 3rd heaven (2 Cor. 12:2,4), he was taken up to New Jerusalem. And Paul said he could have been taken in his physical body (2 Cor. 12:2,4). Also, Jesus, Elijah, & Enoch were taken there in their physical bodies (Lk. 24:39,51, 2 Kin. 2:11, Gen. 5:24, Heb. 11:5). And the 2 witnesses will be taken "up" there in their physical bodies (Rev. 11:11-12).

 

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zspeedyrabit said in post #1:

I believe Satan is currently in Heavenly places . . .

Satan (Lucifer) & his angels will make an attack on the 3rd heaven in the future, mid-trib, but they'll be beaten by Michael & his angels, & they'll be cast down to the earth (Rev. 12:7-17). But then, instead of coming down as a defeated force, they could descend for all the world to see in gigantic, magnificent golden spaceships onto the "Champ de Mars" (Mars being the same as Marduk, the chief god of ancient Babylon), the large open area in front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris. And Lucifer, a literal, 7-headed dragon (Rev. 12:3,9) could emerge in great splendor & command his legions of angels to destroy an army of 200,000,000 weird horse-like beings (which the world could see as "aliens", but which the Antichrist could falsely say is YHWH's main army) which will have just killed 1/3 of mankind (Rev. 9:16-19). Lucifer could then say he's come to rescue mankind because the Antichrist (the AC), who he could say is his only-begotten "Son", called upon him (like in an AC counterfeit of Mt. 26:53). Lucifer & the AC could then be received wholeheartedly by the unsaved world as the saviors of mankind. And the unsaved world could be left thinking (mistakenly) that Lucifer & his angels were more powerful than even YHWH's main army.

Lucifer & the AC, along with the AC's miracle-working False Prophet (FP), will then deceive the world into actually worshipping Lucifer & the AC & a speaking (possibly android) image of the AC (Rev. 13:4-16, 19:20, 2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36). And everyone will be made to receive a (possibly scarification) mark of the AC either on their right hand or forehead, consisting of either the AC's name or some representation of the gematrial number of his name (666) (Rev. 13:16-18). After Lucifer & the AC have ruled the world for 3.5 literal years (Rev. 13:4-18), YHWH will send 7 vials (or bowls) of wrath against the unsaved world (Rev. 16). Near the end of these, unclean spirits like frogs will come out of the mouths of Lucifer, the AC, & the FP (Rev. 16:13), & these unclean spirits like frogs will go forth & perform amazing miracles to convince the armies of the world to gather together at Armageddon (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel) (Rev. 16:16) to battle against YHWH himself (Rev. 16:14, 19:19). After gathering together at Armageddon, the armies will then travel south & pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus (who is YHWH: Jn. 10:30) returns from heaven & defeats them completely (Rev. 19:11-20:6, Zech. 14:2-21).

When Jesus returns, immediately after the future trib of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24 (Mt. 24:29-31, Rev. 19:7-21), he'll descend bodily from heaven on a white horse (Rev. 19:7-21, 1 Thes. 4:16, Zech. 14:3-4, Acts 1:11-12) with all the holy angels (Mt. 25:31, 2 Thes. 1:7) for all the world to see (Mt. 24:27,30, Rev. 1:7). Then the church will be bodily resurrected (if dead) or changed (if alive) (1 Cor. 15:21-23,51-53, 1 Thes. 4:16, Rev. 20:4-6) & caught up together/gathered together (raptured) (Mt. 24:31, 2 Thes. 2:1) as high as the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with Jesus (1 Thes. 4:17). At that meeting, he'll judge the church (Ps. 50:4-5, cf. Mk. 13:27, 2 Cor. 5:10, Lk. 12:45-48) & marry its obedient part (Rev. 19:7-8, Mt. 25:1-12) in the clouds, before it mounts white horses & descends back down from sky (the 1st heaven) with Jesus (Rev. 19:14) as he defeats the world's armies (Rev. 19:19,21), & the AC & FP (Rev. 19:20), & has Lucifer bound in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Rev. 20:1-3).

 

[Gary7]

One of these cute little "space monkeys" struck so much fear in me one night back in 1983 in a dream that my heart almost stopped. It had a large expanding head and was green. The only thing that saved me was when I cried out in my sleep, "THE POWER OF GOD!" and the little monster let me alone.

 

[brinny]

We are currently in the chapter 11 process of Revelation.
Fallen Angels know that they are Fallen Angels. Matthew 8:29.
I believe all fallen Angels receive internal communications from Satan. Acts 16:16
I believe Satan is currently in Heavenly places (Ephesians 2:2. Ephesians 6:12) and does not get cast out of Heaven until Revelation 12:9 of which has yet to occur.
I have concluded that Fallen Angels are sort of like a type of space monkey..but cute.

Fallen Angels are sort of like a type of space monkey..but cute.

Fallen angels are "cute"?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Wow! A blast from the past......lovely

 

[Choose Wisely]

Um...did you happen to read Isaias??

Isaias 14
9 Hell below was in an uproar to meet thee at thy coming, it stirred up the giants for thee. All the princes of the earth are risen up from their thrones, all the princes of nations. 10 All shall answer, and say to thee: Thou also art wounded as well as we, thou art become like unto us.
11 Thy pride is brought down to hell, thy carcass is fallen down: under thee shall the moth be strewed, and worms shall be thy covering.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?
13 And thou saidst in thy heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit in the mountain of the covenant, in the sides of the north. 14 I will ascend above the height of the clouds, I will be like the most High. 15 But yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, into the depth of the pit.
16 They that shall see thee, shall turn toward thee, and behold thee. Is this the man that troubled the earth, that shook kingdoms, 17 That made the world a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof, that opened not the prison to his prisoners? 18 All the kings of the nations have all of them slept in glory, every one in his own house. 19 But thou art cast out of thy grave, as an unprofitable branch defiled, and wrapped up among them that were slain by the sword, and art gone down to the bottom of the pit, as a rotten carcass. 20 Thou shalt not keep company with them, even in burial: for thou hast destroyed thy land, thou hast slain thy people: the seed of the wicked shall not be named for ever.

Definitely NOT in Heaven...
AND definitely long ago was cast out of Heaven.

And definitely NOT cute.

Hi Warrior Angel. Did you happen to read ALL of Isaiah 14? Let's grab a few more verses and see what's really going on.

Isaiah 14
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isaiah 14
4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

According to these verses, we are looking for a man. That man is already identified. He is the King of Babylon.

If you want to understand what these verses mean, I would suggest that you understand how the first King of Babylon became the day star. You might need to understand the origin of the religion of Babylon and it's false trinity.

To take it a step further we see the Hebrew translation into the Latin Vulgate
quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes.

Notice that Lucifer is not capitalized as a proper name in the Latin Vulgate. The English translation should be day star or morning star. That would bring confusion as Christ is known as the morning star. And since this individual was going to be cast into the pit as an unprofitable branch, it could not be Christ they are speaking of. Therefore the translators simply used the latin word lucifer instead of translating the word day star or morning star.

These verses are talking about a man......the King of Babylon and not Satan.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Howard Dean, I receive visons (Acts 2:17) and also receive internal communications from a variety of Spiritual Entities (God, Satan, Satans Antichrist, various Fallen Devils, human spirits).
Howard Dean, If you don't mind me asking which part of the world are you in?

Always glad to see another fellow visionary..........

Daniel 1:17
As for these four young men, God gave them knowledge and skill in all literature and wisdom;
and Daniel [aka LLOJ] had understanding in all visions and dreams.

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[WarriorAngel]

I have no idea what the verse i posted was in relation to, but seeing the original post, I'm thinking this a parody of sorts?
Or satire?
Humor?