Soulmates?

[Im_A]

this idea is very hard for me to see anymore.

i mean let's face it. we could fall in love with whoever we chose. for i think the word "love" gets tagged on with many things. there are many compatible people out there for us. so with the normal idea of soulmate, it just sounds like a shakespearan fictional story that some people can use scriptures with.

so who thinks it is possible that soulmates actually mean two people that use their free-will choices to stay through it, because THEY WANT IT, and not because of emotional things?

i mean salvation comes by those who chose and want Jesus Christ in their lives, so why would love between a man and a woman be any different?

 

[plum]

Good observations, Joe.

and honestly, I used to think romantic soul mates existed... But as I've grown and learned more about what true choice-love is... I don't really think of compatibility and love in the same ways. I think God brings people into our lives that share things with us (passions, dreams, values, personalities...) but i don't think that there is just one person for all of us.

But I do think that there is the "right person" for us during certain seasons of our lives. like right now the right man for me (some could call him my soul mate) was not the man for me a year ago...

 

[Im_A]

Good observations, Joe.

and honestly, I used to think romantic soul mates existed... But as I've grown and learned more about what true choice-love is... I don't really think of compatibility and love in the same ways. I think God brings people into our lives that share things with us (passions, dreams, values, personalities...) but i don't think that there is just one person for all of us.

But I do think that there is the "right person" for us during certain seasons of our lives. like right now the right man for me (some could call him my soul mate) was not the man for me a year ago...

hey stranger. long time no talk! haha

the only question i have to that, and please, don't think i'm debating with you, and i don't think you will see it as me debating or arguing with you

if that's true, then i would think that means there is no such things as the "right" person. i mean if seasons and life changes dictate who is right for us, then my observation is, we are all screwed, because we change in life.

i'll agree with you tho, on the example of people not being compatible now. my longest relationship was 2 years. at the time we were extremely compatible. now, God would have to part the seas again to put it bluntly. there is no way that her and i are "compatible." i am different now, i've changed in my faith, and i am nothing like i used to be. but even with that, i would be lead to believe that i wont' be the same a few years down the road either.

so i guess with this, the "right" person to me, is the person that sticks with me by her choice through all seasons and changes of life, and the person that i chose to do that for too. i mean if love never ends as it is said in 1 Corinthians chapter 13, then people for the right time in the seasons in our lives, doesn't match up in my head. now of course there are people as friends that help us out in those seasons. the friendships normally always last, just with a different face as life goes on. but with love between a man and a woman, it just seems a bit different to some degree to me.

 

[Maeyken]

so i guess with this, the "right" person to me, is the person that sticks with me by her choice through all seasons and changes of life, and the person that i chose to do that for too.

That is what I believe to be true (above). I think there are many people that we *could* be compatible with, but the person we choose to marry is the one we have decided to stick with, the one we have made the choice to love forever, and they have done the same for us.

I think it is also important for both people to be seeking after God's will. God will help us stick with our choice to love through the tough times as well as the good times.

 

[Im_A]

That is what I believe to be true (above). I think there are many people that we *could* be compatible with, but the person we choose to marry is the one we have decided to stick with, the one we have made the choice to love forever, and they have done the same for us.


I think it is also important for both people to be seeking after God's will. God will help us stick with our choice to love through the tough times as well as the good times.

i believe that end part too, but then i'm like ok, where is the line between emotional love and God's Will? that's why i just think it is better to ask God to just dictate His Will and seek purity with the person you want to be with to stay holy in His eyes.

 

[Endure2]

well i dont think the regular meaning of "soulmate" refers only to "emotionalism".

i do believe there is one person out there that God wants you to find and be with, as you both submit to him and follow his will in your lives.
i do believe there is a single person who your destined to be with, but if that person or you walks away from Gods will in your lives, then God can rearrange and change things for each of your favor still.

ive just seen several times, that if God had silently allowed me to just exercise my free will and make my own decisions... without intervening and speaking to me and specificly telling me what to do instead (becuase he had one desighned plan for me) ... id have really messed somethings up... but even if i had, he would have restored me and set me on a new path, a perfect one for me.

man i dont want to direct my own life and do things becuase i want to do them anymore. im just learning that im not an extremely smart person, and without God ill just create more problems.

but life is just easier when you seek him first. the way of a transgressor is hard.
let him tell who that special one for you is, he knows where she is, and you need to pray that she will stay strong and hear the vioce of God and not step away herself.

 

[Endure2]

im sure there are... but God has a plan for your life, that means hes already mapped it out, and the one he has chosen is the one... though if one of you messes up... hell find another that will work just fine and then they are the one.
the one he wants you to be with. becuase hes smarter than we are.

 

[Glorianna]

I still believe in soulmates. My fiance and I believe that we are each other's soul mates. But I can totally understand where you're coming from tattedsaint.

 

[catch22]

God made Adam and Eve. He didn't create Adam and Eve, Sarah, Michelle, Diane and Stephanie. Yes, I believe in soulmates. Why you ask? Simple, because God can handle my love life far better than I ever could. He knows who's best for me. He made that match before I even stepped onto this Earth because He has a plan and a purpose and only one specific person can fill that role in my life. In my opinion, to deny the existence of soulmates is to deny God's authority over that aspect of our lives.

 

[Glorianna]

God made Adam and Eve. He didn't create Adam and Eve, Sarah, Michelle, Diane and Stephanie. Yes, I believe in soulmates. Why you ask? Simple, because God can handle my love life far better than I ever could. He knows who's best for me. He made that match before I even stepped onto this Earth because He has a plan and a purpose and only one specific person can fill that role in my life. In my opinion, to deny the existence of soulmates is to deny God's authority over that aspect of our lives.

You have a couple of really good points that I like. Thanks for posting!

 

[Im_A]

catch22. i have a hard time accepting those points, because of the Creation story.

Adam was lonely and wanted a partner, so God put Adam into a deep sleep and made a woman called Eve out of him. that's a bit different than searching the will of God with someone.

 

[Glorianna]

I can see both of your points.

 

[alexia]

Adam didn't have to ask for a partner. God himself said that it is not good for man to be alone.

And there is a person out there that is the "best" for you. I know this for a fact. When God made you and planned your destiny he had a particular person in mind for you.

When began working on my relationship with God, I dropped the idea od marriage from my mind. But I had my eye on someone that I though might be it but then God started showing me a church, a man and the three boys that we would have in dreams/visions. It took a long time for me to even join the church because I had to drive a good distance to get htere. So I joined the church and there HE was and I didn't have to "search" the world for him.

The funny thing is that he has all the physical characteristics that I wanted...all the ones that I had cut out because I thought it is was just my flesh. He's not perfect but he's mine. I feel so stupid...as I think about how I was going to settle for someone suitable but we both would have missed out on the best that God had planned for us.

God started showing my glimpses of my future with him...the love that I could feel between us was sooo strong. I now know that the person God intended for me is a vital part of the destiny that God has planned for me. God also revealed to me that the man he chose for me will be a minister and he showed me the role that I will play in helping him fulfill his destiny in God. He made us both to complement each other in a way that will bring us both happiness and will draw us both closer to HIM.

God has given us free will...but the career/marriage that I had planned out for myself is NOTHING in comparison to the things that God has given/shown me. Man thinks that he know what's best for himself, but his "wisdom" is NOTHING compared to the WISDOM of GOD.

 

[catch22]

now THATS what I'm talking about Alexia! Very well put!

 

[Endure2]

again i agree with idea of soulmates and there being THE ONE.

well yeah adam was lonely, but it didnt say he wanted a partner.

the thing is the bible says to acknowledge him in ALL your ways...
and give your LIFE as a living sacrifice...
and that your life is not your own, but it is Gods and its been bought with a price... you dont do what you want with it.

as christians, we seek first the kingdom... and then all these things shall be added unto us... yeah being a christian takes faith...
it is your responsibility to check with God about everything...

the bible in ephesians also says we are predestined...
and that atleast clearly means that he already has it mapped out, its all planned out already... he chooses our life for us and purpose for us.

God may let you choose what color shirt to put on in the morning by yourself... but not the person you choose to spend the rest of your life, ministry, everything with...
he wants you to acknowledge him, and let him direct your paths.

the bible says the steps of a righteous man are ORDERED of the Lord.

that means you dont just do what you think or want and make it work, but he orders your steps and determines your paths...

and when you do this, their will be A ONE, THE ONE... becuase it will be the THE ONE he chose for you. and it will be the best ONE you could ever be with, thats how he sets it up.

we really arent all that bright sometimes, we need to let him pick.
the bible in jeremiah says he has a PLAN for you... PLANS to prosper you, and give you a future.

david said wed be like trees PLANTED by the rivers of water and that our leaves would never whither, wed always bear fruit, and everything we do will prosper... thats a great life. the best life... that means youll always be productive at anything you try, that means nothing good in your life will ever die, that means youll be a success at everything you do... this what God has planned for you if youll live for him and let him direct your paths.

but trees dont plant themselves... we should let God plant us wherever he chooses, and he always picks the best spots... the spots next to the rivers of living water.

thats the biblical Godly way of life, that he will direct you, place you, lead you, put you, plant you... where you need to be. leave it up to him to plant you in your proper place... that place your sure to be blessed.
surrender your life, as a living sacrifice to God, and this is your reasonable service... romans 12.

 

[Glorianna]

God has given us free will...but the career/marriage that I had planned out for myself is NOTHING in comparison to the things that God has given/shown me. Man thinks that he know what's best for himself, but his "wisdom" is NOTHING compared to the WISDOM of GOD.

Great point!

 

[the_man]

God made Adam and Eve. He didn't create Adam and Eve, Sarah, Michelle, Diane and Stephanie.

yeah...but we cannot compare any of our situations to Adam's (Adam's situation was what we like to call initial conditions). Eve was his sole-mate.

 

[Glorianna]

In my opinion, even though that example may not work, there are still soulmates.

 

[the_man]

I've said this before and I'll say it again; I think the whole idea of soulmates is a dangerous one . The saducees asked Christ a similar question (Matt. 22:23-33) which we should not ignore. Soulmates (the very term of which) implies that there is something beyond this earth (something spiritual) to such a union. (that's not biblical...unless you are willing to take the view that ever believer will be your soulmate...which defeats the purpose of the concept of soulmates in the first place).

I think most that do take this soulmate concept, take it in hindsight of their situation (i.e. I met lydia (fictitious character) and i can't imagine being with anyone else, hence she is my soulmate). There is nothing wrong with that, but like the saducees I'd ask, who was Elizabeth Elliots soulmate? (Liz elliot married 4 times...previous husbands died).

I think another danger (which I don't accuse present company of doing) is allowing the soulmate theory drive the relationship. You see, the idea of soulmate means, this is the one person for you, so if they are out of line, hmm...maybe this was not the person for me, have I made a mistake? In today's society divorce is not frowned upon for many reasons, one of which is: "she wasn't the one for me", "I met my soulmate". The nature of marriage is such that it is hard work, discipline, commitment, and as a wise recently married friend of mine once said "it beats out any ounce of selfishness you have". But I should digress (and turn around) because I'm preaching to the choir.

Now, I am not so bold to say I have it figured out how God does this. But I lean more towards to concept or theory that states there are many people that are compatible for you, some you will meet and some you won't, but the one you choose is your life partner (until death or divorce (in acceptable cases)).

But officially, my stance is this:

Prov 30:19
"There are three things that are too amazing for me,
four that I do not understand:
the way of an eagle in the sky,
the way of a snake on a rock,
the way of a ship on the high seas,
and the way of a man with a maiden."

Whatever theory you side with, I think we can all agree that God is in control. Amen?

 

[Glorianna]

Yes, I agree with that. Maybe soulmates is the wrong word for it. Should we instead call it "the one God has created to be our spouse" or "the one God chose to one day be our spouse"?