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There are 59 uses of the phrase "son* of God" in the Bible. So, the first question one should ask is why did the OP only select those 3? Second, who said that these were vague? According to what standard? Whose standard? Since the Bible isn't written like a Western theological work it is to be expected that there will be "isolated" (by the Western POV) texts.Should Christian doctrines be established from vague isolated texts?
There are 59 uses of the phrase "son* of God" in the Bible. So, the first question one should ask is why did the OP only select those 3? Second, who said that these were vague? According to what standard? Whose standard? Since the Bible isn't written like a Western theological work it is to be expected that there will be "isolated" (by the Western POV) texts.
This text is used in error to mean angels rather than Adam's lineage. We know of 0 female angels in the bible.(post text)Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Because the OP didn't state that the texts were "a the vague case for aliens." It simply labled the texts as vague and isolated and that was what I dealt with.If I posted all the possibilities or not, why not post text that makes clear what I call "a the vague case for aliens."
Maybe by some; but not all. Since I didn't claim that they are angels I have no burden to prove it.This text is used in error to mean angels rather than Adam's lineage.
Job 1:6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 38:7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Why are some upset because "sons of God" are said to be angels and not aliens from other world?
Why should we beleive that satan is the ruler of earth and not just an angel who is king of temping and accusing humanity?
Should Christian doctrines be established from vague isolated texts?[/quote]There are reasonable answers to those 3 questions, that's not one of them.djconklin said:Because the OP didn't state that the texts were "a the vague case for aliens." It simply labled the texts as vague and isolated and that was what I dealt with.
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If those 3 text can be used to define aliens rather than angels, would it not mean that the text is not clearly understood?
How many and which Sons are you talking about?I find it more interesting that most Christians prefer to define "sons of God" as anything but "sons of God." Anything but -- "angels," "aliens," "proto-Christians," "right-doers" ... anything but God's own.
We shall never be able, I say, to rest in the bosom of the Father, till the fatherhood is fully revealed to us in the love of the brothers. For he cannot be our father save as he is their father; and if we do not see him and feel him as their father, we cannot know him as ours. Never shall we know him aright until we rejoice and exult for our race that he is the Father.
Maybe you mean two or three witnesses.Cribstyl ...Should Christian doctrines be established from vague isolated texts?
Two or three texts should suffice.
JPaul
Crib -- I don't know how many sons God has. The universe is wonderfully large. I do love that I keep meeting more and more of them every day I live.
What's even more refreshing to me than numbering is the substance of sonship, the closeness and community that it implies. Being able to recognize family changes so much about how we relate to one another. That has been part of the lesson for me.
As George MacDonald once wrote:
That's a fair position.I like George MacDonald even though I don't agree with him in everything.
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