Something I just noticed....

[Ohioprof]

Homophobia is FEAR of homosexuals, not hatred of them.

See my previous post about this. You are mistaken.

 

[walloffire]

This backwards thinking is really ridiculous. If you're going to put homosexuals on an alter next to all the WORST sins you can think of, you might as well put yourself up there too because you are a sinner and are NO better.

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


Lying, murder, homosexuality, fibbing, - they all are sins, and they are all punishable by death. That is why Christ died for us.

I readily admit that I have probably done more sins than you have in my life, and I readily admit that I am worthy of death.

I suppose you believe there are such things as "white lies" that God overlooks?

 

[walloffire]

No, people don't choose their sexual orientation, just like they don't choose their skin color. So you're wrong.

They most definitely do choose who they mate with.

We are all tempted to do all manner of sin, all people are tempted by homosexuality, because the devil tempts us all in every area. It is wise to be heterosexual, and it is foolish to be homosexual. God did not "make you that way". He made you to have children, and that cannot happen through homosexual sex.

 

[walloffire]

and how dare you degrade people whose skin colors are different than yours by comparing THAT with committing abomination.

 

[Floatingaxe]

No, people don't choose their sexual orientation, just like they don't choose their skin color. So you're wrong.

I am not wrong, my dear. People choose sin. They don't choose their race.

Anyone who would dare to compare their sexual desire with race is sadly and horrifically deceived.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Homophobia can be either fear or dislike of gay people or both. Just as Anglophobia does not usually refer to fear of the English, but dislike of them, homophobia usually refers to dislike of gay people.

No--you like to use that word to mean dislike or hatred, but it's not. It was never a word before the homosexual agenda coined it.

I refuse to use the word, as well as the word, "gay", which only means "merry" to me.

 

[Ohioprof]

They most definitely do choose who they mate with.

We are all tempted to do all manner of sin, all people are tempted by homosexuality, because the devil tempts us all in every area. It is wise to be heterosexual, and it is foolish to be homosexual. God did not "make you that way". He made you to have children, and that cannot happen through homosexual sex.

Not all people have children. Many gay people do have children. There is nothing sinful about either being gay or forming a loving same-sex relationship.

 

[shepsgirl]

Many Christians do not agree with you about this. Christians are debating this question, which is part of why these sub-forums are here.

There are Christians who hate gay people, though they are in a tiny minority, fortunately. Reverend Fred Phelps and his church members explicitly hate gay people, and they declare that "God hates f$gs." That is the name of their website. Convicted bomber Eric Rudolph is another Christian who hates gay people, and he has bombed in the name of Jesus.

Most Christians, even those who are anti-gay, do not hate gay people, as far as I can see, and they reject those who do hate gay people. But it's important to recognize that there are some people who consider themselves Christians who do in fact hate gay people and who claim that God hates gay people.

Anyone can call themselves a Christian. The Bible says for us to look at their fruit to tell if they are Christian or not. I personally don't see any Christian fruit in either of the examples you mentioned. I believe God loves us all and hates our sin, but only those who come to Him through Jesus are saved.

 

[Ohioprof]

No--you like to use that word to mean dislike or hatred, but it's not. It was never a word before the homosexual agenda coined it.

I refuse to use the word, as well as the word, "gay", which only means "merry" to me.

The word "homophobia" originated with a heterosexual psychologist named George Weinberg in the late 1960s.

I don't mean to impose a tyranny of the dictionary on people, but here is how Webster's Dictionary defines homophobia. The dictionary reflects common usage, remember. The quoted material from Webster's is in blue.

Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\ Function: noun Date: 1969 : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

 

[Ohioprof]

Anyone can call themselves a Christian. The Bible says for us to look at their fruit to tell if they are Christian or not. I personally don't see any Christian fruit in either of the examples you mentioned. I believe God loves us all and hates our sin, but only those who come to Him through Jesus are saved.

I don't see any fruit, at least not good fruit, in what those folks think or do either.

I disagree with you about "sin." I think all are saved, and I certainly do not believe that being gay, or loving our spouses, is a "sin."

 

[Floatingaxe]

The word "homophobia" originated with a heterosexual psychologist named George Weinberg in the late 1960s.

I don't mean to impose a tyranny of the dictionary on people, but here is how Webster's Dictionary defines homophobia. The dictionary reflects common usage, remember. The quoted material from Webster's is in blue.

Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\ Function: noun Date: 1969 : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

Nothing's irrational about the aversion to perversion.

 

[shepsgirl]

I don't see any fruit, at least not good fruit, in what those folks think or do either.

I disagree with you about "sin." I think all are saved, and I certainly do not believe that being gay, or loving our spouses, is a "sin."

All people sin. God is holy and perfect and won't tolerate sin; that is why He gave His Son for us; He loves us and wants us to be with Him. I am thankful I can tell you such great news on your day!! Happy Birthday!!

 

[Ohioprof]

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


Lying, murder, homosexuality, fibbing, - they all are sins, and they are all punishable by death. That is why Christ died for us.

I readily admit that I have probably done more sins than you have in my life, and I readily admit that I am worthy of death.

I suppose you believe there are such things as "white lies" that God overlooks?

Take "homosexuality" off your list of sins, please. It's not a sin at all. Gay is how God made some of us.

 

[Ohioprof]

All people sin. God is holy and perfect and won't tolerate sin; that is why He gave His Son for us; He loves us and wants us to be with Him. I am thankful I can tell you such great news on your day!! Happy Birthday!!

Yes, all people do sin. However, being gay is not a sin, nor is loving one's spouse, whether the spouse is of the opposite sex or of the same sex.

 

[Ohioprof]

Nothing's irrational about the aversion to perversion.

Being gay is not a "perversion." It's simply a characteristic of some people. Love between committed spouses of the same sex is not a "perversion" either.

Anyhow, the point of my presenting my post was to show you that the commonly accepted meaning of "homophobia" does include a dislike of gay people.

 

[Ohioprof]

and how dare you degrade people whose skin colors are different than yours by comparing THAT with committing abomination.

How dare you call our love "abomination?"

 

[ChaliceThunder]

They most definitely do choose who they mate with.

We are all tempted to do all manner of sin, all people are tempted by homosexuality, because the devil tempts us all in every area. It is wise to be heterosexual, and it is foolish to be homosexual. God did not "make you that way". He made you to have children, and that cannot happen through homosexual sex.

God DID make us this way - and he did so wondrously.

How dare YOU denigrate the work of the Lord's hands?!

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Ohioprof,

How dare you call our love "abomination?"

we dont, we see God calls same-sex sex an abomination. You have had it explained to you that love is different from sex, we can indeed dare as you are offended by your false testimony about what we say.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear ChaliceThunder,

God DID make us this way - and he did so wondrously.

How dare YOU denigrate the work of the Lord's hands?!

You may believe your god made you that way but not the God of the Bible, He made male and female and woman for man. The Lord did not make gay and straight people, the knowledge of good and evil came with temptation and the first awareness Adam and Eve had was a sexual one.
No, if God made people staright and gay he wouldnt have needed to send His Son Jesus Christ.

 

[Leah]

Yes, all people do sin. However, being gay is not a sin, nor is loving one's spouse, whether the spouse is of the opposite sex or of the same sex.

Loving a spouse is not homosexuality. If it were, then we'd all be labeled homosexuals. Guess what, I love your spouse and everyone else's spouses, too. Does that mean I'm gay??

As I said before, there is more that is involved in a homosexual relationship/marriage than just love, OP.