Something I have noticed about both sides.

[Mankin]

I have noticed that trads tend to be democrats while progs tend to be republicans. I know this isn't right for every case but it seems to be a patern. It's like your conservative about religion but liberal about politics and the other side is liberal about Adventism and conservative about politics. I'm liberal on both sides so I guess that makes me a double agent!

 

[AndrewK788]

I have noticed that trads tend to be democrats while progs tend to be republicans. I know this isn't right for every case but it seems to be a patern. It's like your conservative about religion but liberal about politics and the other side is liberal about Adventism and conservative about politics. I'm liberal on both sides so I guess that makes me a double agent!

That's funny because 95% of the conservative Adventists I know are Republican. I don't know. I don't really pay that much attention though. I lean more liberal on both sides though too. I consider myself independent though in politics.

 

[Mankin]

That's funny because 95% of the conservative Adventists I know are Republican. I don't know. I don't really pay that much attention though. I lean more liberal on both sides though too. I consider myself independent though in politics.

The ones I know tend to vote democrat cause they think republicans will vote in the Sunday Law or something. Also Democrats are more willing to support Adventist's religious freedom.

 

[StormyOne]

i thought most of the trads are republicans.... but I haven't paid attention..... I am neither so for me its moot..... there may be some other factors but I am not gonna go there at the moment...

 

[honorthesabbath]

Well this trad is neither democrat or republican--because both parties are as corrupt as a rotting piece of flesh.

My dilemma is that I a am fully backing Ron Paul because he really is a Constitutionist, as I am. He was forced to run under the Republican banner because the media gives the independent's NO coverage at all. Which is another reason why we should raise an eyebrow or two at the 2 major parties.

 

[happywiththelord]

i am republican and a trad.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

I don't think it is accurate to say either that most trad's are democrats or progressive Republicans. If you look at most of the Progressive blogs you will see that they are very favorable towards democrats. Some I would say are fanatical about a political liberal agenda. Spectrum blog for instance repeats stuff from the Daily Koz as well as connected to Street Prophets another subsidary of the Daily Koz. Which is rabidly politically liberal. What you tend to find when dealing with those people is they can't discuss anything political if you don't agree with them. Which is weird because religion and politics are very much the same in the way that they are deeply held beliefs yet they want people to rethink their religion but they won't consider rethinking their politics.

From conversations we have had with Clifford Goldstein we found that indeed he and a bunch of the SDA leadership are also very politically left. Cliff even so far as to being one of the people well defined as having Bush Derangement Syndrome.

I think a lot of Adventist do think that since most Christians are conservative they therefore will drive the Republicans to create Sunday laws. Even though Republicans are far closer to Libertarians (which is pretty much what Ron Paul is) and Republicans favor more individual rights as well as a smaller government. Still because the Adventists have been so filled with fear of a Sunday law as a conservative religious caused event they like the often anti-Christian Democrat agenda (read Moveon.org or the Daily Koz if you don't believe that statement) as if it is a safe guard of some sort.

 

[mva1985]

Conservative & Traditional

 

[Sophia7]

I don't think it is accurate to say either that most trad's are democrats or progressive Republicans. If you look at most of the Progressive blogs you will see that they are very favorable towards democrats. Some I would say are fanatical about a political liberal agenda. Spectrum blog for instance repeats stuff from the Daily Koz as well as connected to Street Prophets another subsidary of the Daily Koz. Which is rabidly politically liberal. What you tend to find when dealing with those people is they can't discuss anything political if you don't agree with them. Which is weird because religion and politics are very much the same in the way that they are deeply held beliefs yet they want people to rethink their religion but they won't consider rethinking their politics.

From conversations we have had with Clifford Goldstein we found that indeed he and a bunch of the SDA leadership are also very politically left. Cliff even so far as to being one of the people well defined as having Bush Derangement Syndrome.

I think a lot of Adventist do think that since most Christians are conservative they therefore will drive the Republicans to create Sunday laws. Even though Republicans are far closer to Libertarians (which is pretty much what Ron Paul is) and Republicans favor more individual rights as well as a smaller government. Still because the Adventists have been so filled with fear of a Sunday law as a conservative religious caused event they like the often anti-Christian Democrat agenda (read Moveon.org or the Daily Koz if you don't believe that statement) as if it is a safe guard of some sort.

I think these are good observations.

 

[NightEternal]

I am:

* Anti-abortion

* Anti-gay marriage

* Anti-welfare system

* Anti-gun control

* Pro-health care reform

* Pro-capital punishment/death penalty

* Pro-war in Iraq

So, I don't know where that places me politically.

The redneck party perhaps?

 

[Mankin]

I am:

* Anti-abortion

* Anti-gay marriage

* Anti-welfare system

* Anti-gun control

* Pro-health care reform

* Pro-capital punishment/death penalty

* Pro-war in Iraq

So, I don't know where that places me politically.

The redneck party perhaps?

More like super conservative. I don't understand why anyone would support the war in Iraq but whatever.

 

[Mankin]

Maybe you should listen to this song NE lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lQahb2O0A


I'm so liberal lol.

 

[DrStupid_Ben]

The way I understand it, conservative Christians generally vote for conservative politics. Not being an American, I don't know about the way American Adventists vote (particularly with the whole Sunday thing), but in Australia, Adventists stereotypically vote for the conservative party (which is called the Liberal Party). We don't have issues about Sunday law here, but there is a tradition of not trusting the unions, so Adventists have in the past voted against against the Labor Party (union party). There are always exceptions though, I generally vote Labor or for the smaller left-wing groups like Australian Democrats and the Greens.

 

[DrStupid_Ben]

I have noticed that trads tend to be democrats while progs tend to be republicans. I know this isn't right for every case but it seems to be a patern. It's like your conservative about religion but liberal about politics and the other side is liberal about Adventism and conservative about politics. I'm liberal on both sides so I guess that makes me a double agent!

Well I think I'm more liberal in my politics than in my religion. I see myself as centrist when it comes to religion.

 

[NightEternal]

I don't understand why anyone would support the war in Iraq but whatever.

Why? This is why:

Video of the Beheading
This unedited video is extremely graphic and horrific. No child should watch it. Adults should view it once in order to understand the indiscriminate, violent nature of Islamic extremism and the threat it poses to the civilized world.

Every bleeding heart Liberal should watch it.

http://members.cox.net/nx100/NickBerg.htm

http://www.newsdesigner.com/blog/images/PA_PDN512.jpg

Sure it's all about oil-that doesn't mean some good cannot come of it. If some of these Islamic fundamentalist groups can be taken out in the process, all the better. Wether it be Iraq or Pakistan, the house needs to be cleaned and those innocent civilians who are suffering under a tyrannical regime need to be liberated.

And Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg will not have died so horrifically in vain.

 

[StormyOne]

Why? This is why:

Video of the Beheading
This unedited video is extremely graphic and horrific. No child should watch it. Adults should view it once in order to understand the indiscriminate, violent nature of Islamic extremism and the threat it poses to the civilized world.

http://members.cox.net/nx100/NickBerg.htm

http://www.newsdesigner.com/blog/images/PA_PDN512.jpg

Sure it's all about oil. But if some of these Islamic fundamentalist groups can be taken out in the process, all the better.

And Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg will not have died so horrifically in vain.

Islamic fundamentalists now.... whose next? The war is unjust and unnecessary....your logic on this issue IMO is flawed....

 

[NightEternal]

Islamic fundamentalists now.... whose next? The war is unjust and unnecessary....your logic on this issue IMO is flawed....

I am one the few who actually who believes that militant Islamics were responsible for 9/11. I am also one of the few who actually believes there were weapons of mass destruction which had been transported out of the country before the American troops went in.

Don't wait for me to shed a tear for Saddam Hussein or his 'meat-grinder' sadistic sons-it won't happen.

I will also not shed a tear for Osama Bin Laden when he is found and executed like the dog he is.

Yes, Bush is a tenacious war-monger. And that is exactly the type of leader that is needed to deal with these brutal thugs.

We agree to disagree then.

 

[NightEternal]

For some reason I just don't buy into the rhetoric that Bush is the devil himself.

Or a dictator.





But maybe that's just me.

He seems like a fun-loving

compassionate

guy to me.

 

[DrStupid_Ben]

Islamic fundamentalism is a big problem, and so is western imperialism. A war of aggression from America and its friends is not the solution to the worlds problems. Maybe if us western countries had pulled our finger out and used a big of diplomacy ......

 

[NightEternal]

Diplomacy for individuals who saw the heads off of innocent people while they are alive and screaming as well as walk into a crowded supermarket with enough bombs strapped to thier bodies to blow themselves to Kingdom Come and thier waiting 72 virgins...

Hmmmmm.... How does that even begin to work?

Not feeling it DrStupid_Ben. Just not feeling it.