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Asimov said:Then you're not a human, or even a primate. Since the only other non-simian species who exhibit something close to human like intelligence is a dolphin....
Becky153 said:It disagrees by this (and don't show me skeletons of seperate humans and seperate apes): have they ever found that ape-human creature? I don't think that they have...so that's a start. And if it's an accident--why haven't we noticed a small change by now?
OdwinOddball said:Pretty much the best summation of the real reasons Creationists are against evolution. You can't bear the thought that you aren't a special singular creation of your diety. The idea that you are no different than any other creature on this planet disgusts you.
What is so awfull about being an animal no different than anything else? None is saying you can't keep a soul this way. No one is saying you have to throw out the concept of a creator god who made all of it happen this way. What we are saying is that to trust implicity in the accuracy of a 2000 year old book versus the collected knowledge of humanity to the exclusion of any and all progress is arrogant beyond measure.
You presume that your complete failure to understand even the most basic concepts of the topic somehow invalidates them. Because you CAN understand the Bible, but not science, that makes science wrong. I don't understand the science that allows a doctor to replace a patients failing heart, but I don't assume it must not happen because of this. why is it so hard to admit you might be wrong? What gives you the gaul to think your lack of education means you are right and 99% of the worlds scientists are wrong?
Hydra009 said:Well, obviously, human knowledge which has been refined by new data and constantly tested for accuracy is better than a collection of mythological tales created in the absense of knowledge.
But enough of this silly science VS God fallacy. They aren't mutually exclusive. The problem only occurs when one makes claims about the natural world which have been falsified through science and then attributes these claims to God. Otherwise, they coexist quite harmoniously.
You have no idea.
I agree. But what about, "What gives you the gaul to think your lack of education means you are right and 99% of the worlds scientists are wrong?"malignantpoodle said:This is so well stated you should get paid for it.
OdwinOddball said:Pretty much the best summation of the real reasons Creationists are against evolution. You can't bear the thought that you aren't a special singular creation of your diety. The idea that you are no different than any other creature on this planet disgusts you.
Yes, yes. By now, all of us have heard that little spiel. Repeating it ad naseum doesn't actually make a case against evolution - it just reinforces the observation that creationists don't take objection to evolution based on evidence, but on perceived theological grounds.LittleNipper said:Evolution is not true. True science and Biblical investigations get along very well. It is when one tries to establish a theory which cannot be proven that a struggle begins. Evolution is entirely contray to eveything the Bible has to say or offer. And the human by-products of evolution have always been evil.
LittleNipper said:Evolution is not true. True science and Biblical investigations get along very well. It is when one tries to establish a theory which cannot be proven that a struggle begins. Evolution is entirely contray to eveything the Bible has to say or offer. And the human by-products of evolution have always been evil.
MrGoodBytes said:And what "by-products" would that be?
LittleNipper said:The summation of why evolutionists are against Bible innerancy is because they cannot bear the thought that their actions and behavior will be judged one day, and without CHRIST will be found to be nothing but filthy rags.... The very idea of GOD passing judgment on them disgusts them. and so they ignore GOD with the hope that if one does not believe in GOD hard enough, GOD will simply vanish. At the very least they might try to say, "We just didn't know because we were not contemplating GOD."
awesome liver said:creation doesn't explain anything. it says something and you form what you want to believe based on your own feelings and no outside influences other than what inspired your own imagination.
evolution does not try to explain the origins of the universe. once again, thank you for displaying to the world your ignorance on a subject you neither have the patience nor desire to ever learn.
creationism is the on that tries to explain the origins of the universe, not of the transforamation of species through the eons.
you say god created the universe? fine. but you can basically change the word god with anything else like frank the hotdog vendor and you will still have changed nothing. you're just talking for the sake of talking. if you have anything intelligent to say, do so but don't antagonize the enlightened crowd by arguing something out of ignorance instead of curiosity.
Want me to take this up with "the LORD"? Fine. Bring him here. I'm sure Erwin would accept him openly to every segment of the forum. Though I seriously doubt you wouldn't find just as many Christians arguing with him as non-Christians.LittleNipper said:You'll have to take this all up with the LORD. If you have to whine to make your points perhaps you might look up the word "lie" first. The only malice I hear seems to be coming from you.....
LittleNipper said:Yeah, right, whatever-------------
Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of GOD.
Creationism -> Evolution
A more appropriate analogy would be that you do not look in a driving instruction manual for instructions on how to build a car.Liquefied said:Scientists do not look to the Theory of Evolution for an explanation of the origin of life in just the same way as you would not look to the Bible for instructions on how to change a clutch in a '91 Honda Civic.
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