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I was a young teen when I had that emabarrassing crush K?That was over 30 years ago, thats all lost on me now.
I stole his poster outside of the King of prussia PA movie theatre when I was younger, I was nuts (what can I say?)
Ever get back to Phila. area ? You must know, there's a statue of him outside the Philadelphia Art Museum (or was - haven't been there in a while).
(I am old - I was no teen 30 years ago, that's for sure)
Yeah I have seen it, as with religious statues same goes for Rocky I was not impressed. I wanted that poster advertising the realistic picture of him at the movie theatre. So much so I coveted it and the stoled it.
I have sinned sins in this area as a fiesty undiscplined teeny bopper
Here's a nightmare for you
seems the statue is still at the art museum
(it's gonna give me nightmares )
g'night, and pleasant dreams instead
God with us +
There is a key difference. There is a Tradition in both of ours, which is why there are very few divisions among us.
No different from the Eastern Orthodox churches.But the Evangelical Protestant is his own Pope.
I've been to Philly but never saw the statue.Yeah I have seen it, as with religious statues same goes for Rocky I was not impressed. I wanted that poster advertising the realistic picture of him at the movie theatre. So much so I coveted it and the stoled it.
I have sinned sins in this area as a fiesty undiscplined teeny bopper
I've been to Philly but never saw the statue.
Used to live in Allegheny Twnshp at Robert Morris!
Wait, that was moon twnshp.
Allegheny was prettier iirc lol
So now even your division is a cut above ??? LOL ~you silly
OH well then by all means, your division is better division
"not many"??
You mean zero don't you?
Oh dear. Truth is, there are far more divisions among the Traditionist churches than among the Bible-oriented ones.
Every one of the Traditionist/Catholic communions has its very own version of God's revelation and considers the ones believed by each of the other ones to be wrong. But their activists never fail to claim that they are united, undivided, etc. unlike those Protestant churches, almost all of which still hold to the essentials of the Reformation: Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, the two Sacraments of the Gospel, and one mediator only between the Father and Man, the Lord Jesus.
No different from the Eastern Orthodox churches.
If you don't need a Pope, even though human opinion, myth, custom, and legend are accepted parts of your belief system, why on Earth would you suppose that we who trust the Word of God to be sufficient for Man's guidance would need one??
2 Timothy 3:15-17: "For from thy infancy thou hast known the Sacred Writings, which are able to instruct thee unto salvation by the faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproving, for correcting, for instruction in justice, that the man of God may be perfect, equipped for every good work."Finally, while Protestants CLAIM to be Sola Scriptura, they never truly follow that doctrine. We can even start with the doctrine of Sola Scriptura itself. The Scripture never gives an EXCLUSIVE command to use only Scripture.
No. And this proves a fundamental ignorance of the doctrine of sola scriptura.We could also question the canon of Scripture with the new-found freedom of Sola Scriptura. Protestants claim that they use the New Testament to confirm the OT canon. Well, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Solomon are never quoted in the New Testament. By all logic, since they are not quoted in the New Testament, they should not be in the OT. Obviously this isn't the criteria used by most Christians, but if I really wanted to, using Sola Scriptura, I could say whatever I wanted to concerning those books, because it is ultimately me, myself, and I who decides what God was saying. Oh yes, and I have the catch-all defense that the Holy Spirit told me to remove those books.
Hey, way to cherry pick the tired, out of context, stand by from James.The phrase "Faith alone" is also a tradition, as the only time the phrase is found in Scripture is as a NEGATIVE:
So you see, brothers, that a man is justified by works, and NOT by faith alone.
No.See, in the end, Evangelical Protestants have their own traditions that they follow, under the guise of interpretations and exegesis. If you get right down to the meat of it, it is all tradition. We are not discussing your interpretation versus Tradition. We are discussing Tradition versus traditions.
I'm officially bored to tears, so unsubscribing
Really, you mean there are more than 20'000 Catholic divisions? I'd like to see this one.
Also, we are not our own popes. We are led by the whole of the Church in past and present.
Well, you're the one who thought it so cute to make that claim. I just pointed out that if we don't have one, you don't either.It is a lie at worst to state that we are our own popes.
Actually, they do. Unfortunately, members of the unreformed churches are taught that they don't adhere to it. But that is just propaganda IMO. My advice always is to try to rise above it.Finally, while Protestants CLAIM to be Sola Scriptura, they never truly follow that doctrine.
Tradition says Mary was assumed into heaven.
Tradition says Jesus is sacrificed again and again in the mass.
Tradition says Mary was sinless.
Tradition says the pope is the head of the church.
Tradition says infant baptism imparts grace.
Tradition says priests must remain unmarried.
Tradition says...etc, etc, etc....ad infinitum.
The scriptures do not say any of this. Sola scriptura means the scriptures are the last word (no pun intended) on doctrine and practice. I think in the end, all that's been highlighted is your lack of understanding when it comes to sola scriptura.
I was a young teen when I had that emabarrassing crush K?That was over 30 years ago, thats all lost on me now.
I stole his poster outside of the King of prussia PA movie theatre when I was younger, I was nuts (what can I say?)
I know a woman in our area who is friends with the Stallones.Yeah I have seen it, as with religious statues same goes for Rocky I was not impressed. I wanted that poster advertising the realistic picture of him at the movie theatre. So much so I coveted it and the stoled it.
I have sinned sins in this area as a fiesty undiscplined teeny bopper
Ahhhh - so you are or were my neighbor?I've been to Philly but never saw the statue.
Used to live in Allegheny Twnshp at Robert Morris!
Wait, that was moon twnshp.
Allegheny was prettier iirc lol
You misunderstand the priesthood of the EO.Quite right. Those are all doctrines derived from Tradition rather than from Scripture. HOWEVER, it's not as though the Tradition/Catholic denominations agree on most of them, despite what their members say!
Eastern Orthodox priests almost MUST be married, while Roman Catholic ones are prohibited from it. The assumption of Mary is a Roman doctrine but the EO say that's wrong--yet both claim that it's the same "Tradition" that they are working from. As we know, one has the Pope; the other reviles the idea. And so it goes.
You misunderstand the priesthood of the EO.
They are not required to be married.
The point is that the two churches have different stories about what happened to Mary or her body, yet they both claim to have followed "Tradition."Assumption of Mary derived from tradition - tho the name is different - it is also the Dormition that the EC call it.
Did I say that they are "required to be married?" No, I did not.
But in practice, it is expected. Even if it were not, their priests ARE customarily married while yours in the Latin rite are prohibited from being married.
The point is that the two churches have different stories about what happened to Mary or her body, yet they both claim to have followed "Tradition."
Or we could take the matter of the Immaculate Conception. The EO have one teaching, the RC another, and the Old Catholics have no position on it at all.
There is only one church.No. I mean the true visible Body of Christ has zero divisions.
Not according to Scripture.The Church was established without division, and the Church continued in that unity in perfect doctrinal agreement with all its true members.
He did!I am not the one that said there is only one Church. God did. I am not the one that said there is one Doctrine. God did.
You're free to believe whatever you like, but when Paul calls them ALLThe Church is the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth. If the Church is a nebulous group of "all people who truly believe in Christ, then the Church cannot be what Scripture calls it. The only way that the Church can be that is if she is of one mind with one confession.
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