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Some Questions.

Van

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Hi Lutherin, the step that I would suggest would be to review every verse that mentions "hell."


  1. Matthew 5:22 (Gehenna)
  2. Matthew 5:29 (Gehenna)
  3. Matthew 5:30 (Gehenna)
  4. Matthew 10:28 (Gehenna)
  5. Matthew 16:18 (Hades)
  6. Matthew 18:9 (Gehenna)
  7. Matthew 23:15 (Gehenna)
  8. Matthew 23:33 (Gehenna)
  9. Mark 9:43 (Gehenna)
  10. Mark 9:45 (Gehenna)
  11. Mark 9:47 (Gehenna)
  12. Luke 12:5 (Gehenna)
  13. Luke 16:23 (Hades)
  14. James 3:6 (Gehenna)
  15. 2 Peter 2:4 (Tartaroo)
  16. Revelation 1:18 (Hades)
  17. Revelation 6:8 (Hades)
  18. Revelation 20:13 (Hades)
  19. Revelation 20:14 (Hades)
You might write a little "h" next to "hell" and read it
as saying Hades for the verses where the Greek reads
Hades, and you might write a little "g" next to hell and
read it Gehenna for the verses where the Greek reads Gehenna.
This helped me to understand what the Bible actually says
about the afterlife of the lost. One last point, Tartaroo (2 Peter
2:4) is a Greek word referring the the lowest abyss in Hades.
 
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seashale76

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I post this a lot
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I'm swiping this from here http://www.christianforums.com/t2642...ox-church.html as it says it better than I could:
The Orthodox teaching is that Heaven and Hell are the same "place" , standing in front of God. The Judgment is individual perception, determined by one's relationship to God. This perception will determine whether or not one experiences it as paradise (Heaven) or agony (Hell) eternally .
Here is a quote from an old Wikipedia article on the topic (that doesn’t seem to be around anymore) that I thought explained it pretty well: "For many ancient Christians, Hell was the same "place" as Heaven: living in the presence of God and directly experiencing God's love. Whether this was experienced as pleasure or torment depended on one's disposition towards God. St. Isaac of Syria wrote in Mystic Treatises: "... those who find themselves in Hell will be chastised by the scourge of love. How cruel and bitter this torment of love will be! For those who understand that they have sinned against love, undergo greater suffering than those produced by the most fearful tortures. The sorrow which takes hold of the heart, which has sinned against love, is more piercing than any other pain. It is not right to say that the sinners in Hell are deprived of the love of God ... But love acts in two ways, as suffering of the reproved, and as joy in the blessed!" This ancient view is still the doctrine of the Eastern Orthodox Church."
 
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ebia

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:) Just want to know from you, too many different versions to look through.

1st Question: Did your God create everything?
Everything that could be said to be created.
Also when I mean everything, I mean EVERYTHING. The most important being hell, is hell a direct bi-product of your Gods plans? Was it a mistake, or was it Satan that made it, without Gods interference?
"Hell" isn't thing to be created, but a rather unfortunate and misleading label for self-exclusion from the Kingdom of God, whatever that looks like.

As someone else has said, the word 'hell' is a translation into English of a variety of ideas in the original language, none of which correspond to what the word means in the popular modern imagination.
 
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