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Am I a transitional between my father and my son?There's tonnes of evidence of transition. Literally tonnes.
The Bible is demonstrably God's book. It contains information that couldn't have been known at the time that it was written and it's consistency of a period of 1,500 years or so is nothing short of astonishing. The scribes who wrote the scriptures when to extraordinary lengths to preserve the accuracy of the previous copies. I believe one of the methods they used was to count all the letters in one of the books, determine which was the middle letter (or letters if it was an even number) and then check that both copies were the same.I love science and though I am not a scientist, I have found myself doing some tests for the better sciences of things in a hobby of mine (which ironically is reptile care)
Evolution is an interesting one, and I had this discussion the other day, indivudually in sciences, (evoloution, and natural selection) (when you look at both) are not friendly with each other, AT ALL!
Even the fossil record has never once shown one species (turning into another) this is important to look at.
You will find none, what you will find is species, within species, that share similarities, but never once has a dinosaur been found to have turned into a bird in fossil records.
When-ever I refer to evolution, I am often speaking about the time frame in which a species has been on the planet, I do not deny, some species would have had to have moved, further, south, or north, in an attempt to recompensate for survival losses, after the earth has been hit with many astronomical events and natural disasters.
So to a degree I beleive it is possible (some species) may have evolved into differing habitats, and evolved to use those habitats a little better, but either way you look at it, biblically, or scientifically, there is still a big empty gap in our being here, and the fact is, the odds of us being here are the equivilent to winning the lottery, every single day, for the last how-ever billion years, I think we can all agree, that's pretty astronomical, and something else has to have driven that force.
I think I cleaned the floor with a good amount of atheists the other day.
People say there is no evidence of God, there is pleanty of evidence for God.
Heck, even the story of Noah, geological findings, will show, that there was a great flood around those biblical times, and more interestingly, skulls of giants are still found today, (even goliaths was supposedly found in the place the battle of David took place with a dint in his skull, his tomb is in israel.
So much for a book of fairy tailes eh?
Such as...?The Bible is demonstrably God's book. It contains information that couldn't have been known at the time
Our Created Solar System and Our Created Stars and Galaxies by Spike Psarris
Are you sure it's not just false interpretation? If it really occurred, why don't we see it occurring today and why do other scientists, some of whom are experts in fossils, totally reject the idea? I've lived on this planet for a tad over 60 years and I haven't come across one single creature, either around me or in a documentary, that can be said to be transitional.There's tonnes of evidence of transition. Literally tonnes.
The universe is expanding.Such as...?
I would have thought you would know have known this already as a Christian. If not, it might be a good idea to contact Peter Sparrow via the creation.com website as he is the one who told me this in a video called "Thy Word is Truth" and he could no doubt explain it better than me. By the way, the video I mentioned is basically about how you would explain to a group of people of different religions why you believed that yours was the one true religion.Such as...?
Or, you know, you could just simply answer my question.I would have thought you would know have known this already as a Christian. If not, it might be a good idea to contact Peter Sparrow via the creation.com website as he is the one who told me this in a video called "Thy Word is Truth" and he could no doubt explain it better than me. By the way, the video I mentioned is basically about how you would explain to a group of people of different religions why you believed that yours was the one true religion.
So if there is no evidence of transition in the fossil record, how can it be of any support to the evolution story? It's just a faith-based idea, another kind of religion if you will and a poorly-supported one at that.
OK, I'll give you a summary of what Peter says in his video:-Or, you know, you could just simply answer my question.
Poetic, if a bit redundant -- God knew the end since before the beginning, exactly as I said.
"Custody"? As in they were running loose before and now are safely locked away? No more harm to anyone?
There are other ways of interpreting the fossil record and the ages of the rocks which would give a different conclusion and it still doesn't explain why we don't see them today. This article is quite telling on the creation.com website and I've seen it quoted in several vidoes:-For me it's in the layers of the fossil record where we see the remains of different life forms that lived in different ages on an earth where the oldest rocks are billions of years old in a universe that's billions of years old.
There are other ways of interpreting the fossil record and the ages of the rocks which would give a different conclusion and it still doesn't explain why we don't see them today. This article is quite telling on the creation.com website and I've seen it quoted in several vidoes:-
"One of the most famous and widely circulated quotes was made a couple of decades ago by the late Dr Colin Patterson, who was at the time the senior paleontologist (fossil expert) at the prestigious British Museum of Natural History.
So damning was the quote—about the scarcity of transitional forms (the ‘in-between kinds’ anticipated by evolution) in the fossil record—that one anticreationist took it upon himself to ‘right the creationists’ wrongs’. He wrote what was intended to be a major essay showing how we had ‘misquoted’ Dr Patterson.1 This accusation still appears occasionally in anticreationist circles, so it is worth revisiting in some detail.
Dr Patterson had written a book for the British Museum simply called Evolution.2 Creationist Luther Sunderland wrote to Dr Patterson inquiring why he had not shown one single photograph of a transitional fossil in his book. Patterson then wrote back with the following amazing confession which was reproduced, in its entirety, in Sunderland’s book Darwin’s Enigma:
‘I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?’
He went on to say:
‘Yet Gould [Stephen J. Gould—the now deceased professor of paleontology from Harvard University] and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. … You say that I should at least “show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived.” I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.’3 [Emphasis added]."
Are you sure it's not just false interpretation? If it really occurred, why don't we see it occurring today and why do other scientists, some of whom are experts in fossils, totally reject the idea? I've lived on this planet for a tad over 60 years and I haven't come across one single creature, either around me or in a documentary, that can be said to be transitional.
I don't doubt that scientific speculation occurs and it's wrong just like the speculation of the authors of scripture. But basic radiometric dating of rocks on the earth is pretty straight forward stuff. The lack of transition fossils doesn't bother me when we have the fact of results everywhere. Unless creationist are prepared to argue that everything that has ever lived all lived at the same time 6,000 years ago? Besides, the only thing science proves wrong is the creation story of the priest class which never claimed to be writing the Word of God in the age of the Babylonian captivity.
Science might think it has proven the creation story wrong, but Someone is coming Who is going to prove science wrong.Besides, the only thing science proves wrong is the creation story ...
But again, why should we assume the earth is 6,000 years old when the Bible says nothing of the sort? Instead it tells us that it is from "ancient times". It tells us the earth was thriving with life and that life went extinct. I have found no one, Christian or evolutionist that can explain to me why I should interpret "hayah" as "was"?
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...ccept-evolution.7893108/page-27#post-68243045
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