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<blockquote data-quote="TheUndecided" data-source="post: 69994100" data-attributes="member: 389947"><p>I agree that things like this do seem quite miraculous but it wouldn't necessarily lead me to believing in God , it could certainly make me wonder if a higher power was at work but then at the same time i'm not to sure it sits to well with me , if God shows the ability to intervene in one case over ignoring another such cases. .</p><p></p><p>I have heard of cases where a cancer can disappear and i'm perfectly happy to accept on rare occasions it happens. But rather than accept it was purely through prayer and God i would want to find a more natural reason if that's the correct way of saying it for why it happened so that we could possibly find a cure for the disease and help others , i would want to exhaust other possible reasons first before making such a leap of faith.</p><p></p><p>Also i have often wondered how people of faith perceive medical intervention . No one in their right mind would ever tell someone not to seek medical help if they needed it and tell them if it's gods will they should die it cant be helped. Let's say for example you seek medical help for a disease like cancer aren't you telling God hold on a second your plan for me is wrong. How can it be said that death is Gods plan or will when at the same time we do everything in our powers while alive to avoid his plan for us the two things seem contradictory to each other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How is it possible to genuinely want God to show himself to you before belief ? wanting this suggests to me that i would already need to believe in his existence to be wanting such a thing from God.</p><p></p><p>Don't most people of no or little faith have their eureka moment without prayer and the want or need for God to show himself . I'm quite sure anyone who doesn't have any real faith would be more than happy to learn God exists and life is eternal , i mean who wouldn't want such a thing.</p><p></p><p>Personally speaking i have asked during my life many times for a sign of some kind or for help . I'm sure anyone without faith would also testify to that and my guess would be that the majority of those people do so in times of distress or despair. I find it hard to think that even the most sceptic person would not pray if a loved one fell ill.</p><p></p><p>I'm not suggesting God should answer those prayers in the way someone wishes them to be answered. But surely if he exists it would be a pretty good time to reveal his existence in some way to those people who are praying in what is likely the lowest moments of their lives . Even if it's only to let them have peace of mind over whatever the situation or circumstances they are praying for, and even if that prayer cant be answered.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for taking the time to read and reply Greg.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheUndecided, post: 69994100, member: 389947"] I agree that things like this do seem quite miraculous but it wouldn't necessarily lead me to believing in God , it could certainly make me wonder if a higher power was at work but then at the same time i'm not to sure it sits to well with me , if God shows the ability to intervene in one case over ignoring another such cases. . I have heard of cases where a cancer can disappear and i'm perfectly happy to accept on rare occasions it happens. But rather than accept it was purely through prayer and God i would want to find a more natural reason if that's the correct way of saying it for why it happened so that we could possibly find a cure for the disease and help others , i would want to exhaust other possible reasons first before making such a leap of faith. Also i have often wondered how people of faith perceive medical intervention . No one in their right mind would ever tell someone not to seek medical help if they needed it and tell them if it's gods will they should die it cant be helped. Let's say for example you seek medical help for a disease like cancer aren't you telling God hold on a second your plan for me is wrong. How can it be said that death is Gods plan or will when at the same time we do everything in our powers while alive to avoid his plan for us the two things seem contradictory to each other. How is it possible to genuinely want God to show himself to you before belief ? wanting this suggests to me that i would already need to believe in his existence to be wanting such a thing from God. Don't most people of no or little faith have their eureka moment without prayer and the want or need for God to show himself . I'm quite sure anyone who doesn't have any real faith would be more than happy to learn God exists and life is eternal , i mean who wouldn't want such a thing. Personally speaking i have asked during my life many times for a sign of some kind or for help . I'm sure anyone without faith would also testify to that and my guess would be that the majority of those people do so in times of distress or despair. I find it hard to think that even the most sceptic person would not pray if a loved one fell ill. I'm not suggesting God should answer those prayers in the way someone wishes them to be answered. But surely if he exists it would be a pretty good time to reveal his existence in some way to those people who are praying in what is likely the lowest moments of their lives . Even if it's only to let them have peace of mind over whatever the situation or circumstances they are praying for, and even if that prayer cant be answered. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply Greg. [/QUOTE]
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