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Four years after this quote you refer to in 1901; Ellen White wrote the following:

"The Lord has declared that the history of the past shall be rehearsed as we enter upon the closing work. Every truth that He has given for these last days is to be proclaimed to the world. Every pillar that He has established is to be strengthened. We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established. We cannot now enter into any new organization, for this would mean apostasy from the truth.—Manuscript 129, 1905. {CTr 367.6}

Therefore; you are the one who needs to visit this passage from the 1901 GC Bulletin and admit to the public the correct context of what was going on and being said.

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You said you had the 1901 and 1903 Bulletins and yet you can't quote from them?!!!

As to entering into another organization Mrs White in the statement you have quoted from 1905 is not saying that the organization was then according to God's blue print
Well; regardless of what you say, the quote I provided is just as clear as anything you have submitted; and when all is taken in context; she was only addressing certain individuals, not the entire church or the entire GC.

See T.M.360-365. On page 361 Mrs White speaks of this serious offense as "the high-handed power that has been developed as though position has made men gods makes me afraid and ought to cause fear."

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The same "high-handed power" is at work in some individuals, but not all; and not just in leadership.

If the truth were to be known; your out of context quotes disallow the actual intentions of Ellen White in the GCB documents. Specifically, from 1902, July 1st, we can see that her major emphasis was always in telling the church members to find ways of supporting the ministers, and telling the ministers to make their personal relationship with God a priority. Some did. Some didn't but the GCBs were never intended to be turned against the church as you have done here, and condemn us all to oblivion. No matterwhich year from the GCBs you want to look at; Ellen White did not encourage a new church or leaving the church, or any such blanket condemnations. This quote illustrates her major emphasis through all years of these GCBs...and yes; I can prove it for I have them all too. Note:
July 1, 1902 Take Time to Talk with God.
By Mrs. E. G. White.


Special instruction has been given me in regard to our ministers. It is not the will of God that they shall seek to be rich. They should not engage in worldly enterprises; for this disqualifies them for giving their best powers to spiritual things. But they are to receive wages enough to support themselves and their families. They are not to have so many burdens laid upon them that they can not give proper attention to the church in their own home. It is their duty to train their children for the Lord. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 1}

It is a great mistake to keep a minister constantly at work in business lines, going from place to place, attending board meetings and committee meetings, sitting up late at night. This brings to him weariness and discouragement. Ministers should have time to rest, to obtain from God's word the rich nourishment of the bread of life. They should have time to drink refreshing draughts of consolation from the stream of living water. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 2}

Let ministers and teachers remember that God holds them accountable to fill their office to the best of their ability, to bring into their work their very best powers. They are not to take up duties that conflict with the work that God has given them. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 3}

When ministers and teachers, pressed under the burden of financial responsibility, enter the pulpit or the schoolroom with wearied brain and over-taxed nerves, what else can be expected than that common fire will be used instead of the sacred fire of God's kindling. The strained, tattered efforts disappoint the listeners and hurt the speaker. He has had no time to seek the Lord, no time to ask in faith for the unction of the Holy Spirit. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 4}

In order for the efforts of God's workers to be successful, they must receive that grace, that efficiency, which He alone can give. "Ask, and ye shall receive," is the promise. Then why not take time to ask, to open the mind to the impressions of the Holy Spirit, that the soul may be revived by a fresh supply of life? Christ himself was much in prayer. Whenever He had opportunity, He went apart, to be alone with God. As we bow before God in humble prayer, He places a live coal from His altar on our lips, sanctifying them to the work of giving Bible truth to the people. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 5}

I am instructed to say to my fellow workers, If you would have the rich treasures of heaven, you must have secret communion with God. Unless you do this, your soul will be as destitute of the Holy Spirit as were the hills of Gilboa of dew and rain. When you hurry from one thing to another, when you have so much to do that you can not take time to talk with God, how can you expect power in your work? {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 6}

The reason so many of our ministers preach tame, lifeless discourses is that they allow a variety of things of a worldly nature to take their time and attention. Unless there is constant growth in grace, we shall be wanting in words suitable for the occasion. Commune with your own heart, and then commune with God. Unless you do this, your efforts will be fruitless, made thus by unsanctified hurry and confusion. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 7}

Ministers and teachers, let your work be fragrant with rich spiritual grace. Do not make it common by mixing it with common things. Move onward and upward. Cleanse yourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and of the spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of the Lord. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 8}

We need to be converted daily. Our prayers should be more fervent; then they will be more effectual. Stronger and stronger should be our confidence that God's Spirit will be with us, making us pure and holy, as upright and fragrant as the cedars of Lebanon. {GCB, July 1, 1902 par. 9}
 
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Here is something from 1901 that you appear to have missed in all your "studies:"
April 4, 1901 Our Supply in Christ.

Mrs. E. G. White, in Early Morning Meeting, April 3, 1901.


I thank the Lord that so many have come out to this early morning meeting to worship God. I desire that my heart shall be drawn out to God. It is our privilege to feel the deep movings of his Spirit. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 1}

We read in James: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing." This is a wonderful position. And it is our privilege to occupy this position. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 2}

"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea, driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive anything of the Lord. A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted; but the rich, in that he is made low; because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away. For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth; so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways. Blessed is the man that endureth temptation; for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 3}

Let us take in the idea of the privilege we have. There are so many who, when they are in trouble, forget the invitation God has given, and begin to look for human help. They go to human beings for aid, and this is the way in which their experience becomes feeble. In all our trials we will seek the Lord most earnestly, remembering that we are his property, his children by adoption, and we shall receive help. We are his by creation, we are his by redemption. By the cords of divine love we are bound to the Source of all power and strength. If we will only make God our dependence, asking him for what we want as a little child asks his father for what he wants, we shall obtain a rich experience. We shall learn that God is the source of all strength and power. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 4}

If, when you ask, you do not immediately feel any special exercise of feeling, do not think that your prayer is not answered. The One who says, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you; for every one that asketh receiveth, and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened," will hear and answer you. Let us, then, ask and seek, and have the privilege of finding. Christ says, "Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you,"--the yoke of restraint and obedience,--"and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and ye shall find rest unto your souls." We are to find rest by wearing his yoke and bearing his burdens. In being co-workers with Christ in the great work for which he gave his life, we shall find true rest. When we were sinners, he gave his life for us. He wants us to come to him and learn of him. Thus We are to find rest. He says he will give us rest. "Learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart." In doing this you will find in your own experience the rest that Christ gives, the rest that comes from wearing his yoke and lifting his burdens. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 5}

God has been greatly dishonored by his people leaning upon human beings. He has not told us to do this. He has told us that he will teach us, he will guide us. We may come to him and receive help. "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God." {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 6}

I can not tell you how many letters came to me across the broad Pacific when I was in Australia, asking for counsel. What did Christ promise his disciples if they would believe in him as their personal Saviour? "Lo, I am with you alway," he said, "even unto the end of the world." Again he says, "I am at thy right hand to help thee." Think of how many promises he has given us, which we may grasp by the hand of faith. When we go to the Source of power, we know that we shall receive that intelligence and wisdom which comes from a pure source, which is not mixed with anything of humanity. As we pray, it is our privilege to know that God wants us to pray, to ask him for help. He wants us to become acquainted with him, to speak to him, to tell him of our difficulties. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 7}

Christ took humanity upon himself. He laid aside his royal robe and kingly crown, and stepped down from his high command in the heavenly courts. Clothing his divinity with humanity, he encircled the race with his long human arm. He stands at the head of humanity, but not as a sinner. It is because there is no spot nor stain of sin upon him that he can stand there. Because he is sinless, he can take away our sins, and place us on vantage-ground with God. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 8}

When I open a letter beginning, "I am sorry to trouble you, Sister White, but I am in trouble, and I wish to know about something in regard to my family and in regard to myself," I feel sad at heart. When it is essential for you to know, God will let you know. He has promised that if you ask wisdom from him, he will give it to you. But it is not always essential for us to know all the why's and wherefore's. We dishonor God by striving to get some one whom we think understands our case to help us. Is not Christ close beside us, and will he not give us the help we need? His word repeats the promise over and over again. "If ye ask anything in my name, I will do it," he says. "If ye love me, keep my commandments." {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 9}

It is no marvel to me that at the present time there is so much weakness where there should be strength. The reason of this is that instead of drinking of the pure water of Lebanon, we are seeking to quench our thirst from cisterns in the lowlands, which contain not the water of life. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 10}

I want to tell you, dear friends, that we have done great dishonor to our Master. Shall we continue to cherish the sin of unbelief, which doth so easily beset us, or shall we cast away this weight of unbelief, and go to the Source of strength, believing that we shall receive pity and compassion from the One who knows our frame, who loves us so well that he gave His own life for us, who bore in His own body the strokes which fell because of our transgression of the law of God. All this He did that we might be prisoners of hope. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 11}

We are not polite to Christ. We do not recognize his presence. We do not realize that he is to be our honored guest, that we are encircled by his long human arm, while with his divine arm he grasps the throne of the Infinite. We forget that the threshold of heaven is flooded with the glory proceeding from the throne of God, that the light may fall directly on those who are seeking the help Christ alone can give. He said to the woman of Samaria, "If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldst have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. . . . Whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 12}

We are to recognize Christ. He does not want us to be as a band of mourners in a funeral train, bearing upon us the marks of care and perplexity. He wants us to commit the keeping of our souls to him. He wants us to put our trust in the naked promise. But, you say, I do not feel like it. Tell me what value there is in feeling! Is feeling stronger than the faith which it is your privilege to exercise in God? Feelings change with almost every circumstance; but the promises of the Eternal are as solid rock. Let us build our house upon the sure foundation, and rivet our souls to the eternal Rock, the Rock of Ages. If we do this, we shall find that it will become habitual for us to remember that we have a Companion. Wherever we are, we are to talk with God. This is the way Enoch walked with God. He talked with him. He recognized the Divine Presence. And in the days of Enoch the world was no more favorable for the perfection of Christian character than in 1901. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 13}

There is no dependence to be placed in humanity. Where do you get your mental food. Do you get it from the newspapers of today, which are filled with the most disgusting and horrible representations? We have something better than this, and we are to show to the world that we know the source of power and efficiency and comfort. The grace of God, which passes knowledge, is imparted to us. It is free. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 14}

The Lord can take every one of us in his embrace; for his arm encircles the race. Let us remember this, after Christ had taken the necessary steps in repentance, conversion, and faith in behalf of the human race, he went to John to be baptized of him in Jordan. "John forbade him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?" Jesus answered, "Suffer it to be so now; for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness." When he came up out of the water, he knelt down on the banks of the Jordan, and offered a prayer such as had never before entered heaven. While he was praying, the heavens opened, and the glory of God, in the form of a dove of burnished gold, rested upon him, and from the highest heaven was heard the voice of the infinite One, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 15}

Have you thought of what this means to us;-- that in this prayer is included every son and daughter of Adam, who will believe in Christ as a personal Saviour, and take the requisite steps in repentance, conversion, faith, and baptism? We are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these three great, infinite powers are unitedly pledged to work in our behalf if we will co-operate with them. We are buried with Christ in baptism as an emblem of his death. We are raised from the water as an emblem of his resurrection. We are to live as new-born souls, that we may be raised at the last great day. You are to live in newness of life; for you are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God." This is where you are to place your treasure. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 16}

Christ's prayer on the banks of the Jordan includes every one who will believe in him. The promise that you are accepted in the Beloved comes to you. God said, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." This means that through the dark shadow which Satan has thrown athwart your pathway Christ has cleaved the way for you to the throne of the infinite God. He has laid hold of almighty power, and you are accepted in the Beloved. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 17}

In every respect you are to honor God. But there is not in our experience that pleasantness and joyousness that there should be. Christ says that if he is in us, our joy will be full. Let us be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. Let us not, by living inconsistent, earthly, sensual lives, heap reproach upon Christ. Let us rise above the malarious atmosphere that pervades the world, and breathe the breath of God. Let us feed upon the bread of life. Christ declares that if we eat his flesh and drink his blood, we shall have eternal life. His word will be to us as the leaves of the tree of life. If we eat the bread that came down from heaven, we shall have a connection with God. We shall bring eternity into our reckoning. We shall live as in the presence of the whole heavenly host. The angels are watching and guarding us. God loves us, but we fail to cherish that love. God wants us to recognize his ownership in every human being. They are mine, he says. I have bought them with a price. "Ye are not your own. . . . Therefore, glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 18}

Shall we not take hold of our privileges? Let us not dwell upon the dark side of the picture, saying that we do not know how things are coming out; that everything seems to be torn up and broken to pieces. It is not so. We may place ourselves under the molding hand of God. He will make of us vessels unto honor, if we are willing to be made thus. God wants us to expect large things, to remember that the prayer which ascended to heaven at the Saviour's baptism embraces every one of us. We are accepted in the Beloved. Christ has pledged himself to keep us. Then commit the keeping of your souls to him, as unto a faithful Creator. Repeat the words aloud, "I will commit the keeping of my soul to him." We would better talk with God, even though our words are heard by others. When there are those around you who are stirred by passion, do not retaliate to their hasty words, but repeat the words of Scripture. Supposing you should do this in your dealing with your brethren and sisters. When untrue words are spoken about us, shall we flare up? Were not a great many untrue things spoken concerning the Saviour, and did He retaliate? God wants us to stand in moral dignity, recommending the divine power that enables us to possess our souls in patience. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 19}

God wants his people to show to the world that they have opened the windows of the soul heavenward, that the Sun of Righteousness is shining into the soul-temple, and that the windows are closed earthward. We need an increase of faith and confidence in God. To the poor souls who have been leaning on the broken staff of humanity I would say, O that God would show you that there is a power above the power of humanity! May God help every one of us to work on the plan of faith, believing that the Lord wants to be represented in our world, that he wants his power to be revealed in his people. He will reveal his power through you if you will only place yourselves where he can give you this power. You may have hope and joy and strength. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 20}

The love of God in your heart will lead you to love your brethren. God wants you to manifest his love, that your life may be hid with Christ in God. The Father loves you as he loves his Son, because his Son has averted the sword of justice by offering himself as a sacrifice. Christ purchased you at an infinite cost, and he wants you to show that you appreciate what has been done to place you on vantage-ground. He says to the Father. "Here is a poor sinner I have given my life for him. He is saved by my grace. Receive him as your child." Do you think the Father will refuse? {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 21}

Let us at this Conference make it an individual work to seek God with all the heart, that we may find him. Do not hunt up the sins some one else has committed. God has not made any one of you a sin-bearer. You can not even bear your own sins. Christ must take your sins and the sins of every other mortal. Let us show that we appreciate his sacrifice in our behalf. Let us reveal in our lives the fragrance of his character. Be fragrant in your words. Remember that you are either a savor of life unto life or of death unto death. Let us be as fragrant flowers. Let the love of Christ pervade your lives. Let your words be such that they will be as apples of gold in pictures of silver. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 22}

This is the work the Lord wants us to do. Can not you think of enough to praise the Lord for? Can not you praise him because he died for you, because he has spared you for so long, because you have his word, which is so full of precious promises? He offers you the bread of life. He says, "The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life." Eat his word, search it, dig deep for the hidden treasure. Do not talk. We have always had so much to say. God says, "Be still, and know that I am God." Be still long enough to know that God is God. Remember that you are to help every one around you. Forget yourself, your bruises and wounds and difficulties. Praise God, and he will receive you. Because he lives, you may live also. {GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 23}
We must follow the constant example of Ellen White to lift up people in the church to Jesus; and to point them to His Word
 
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You have had them for 25 years! All right then, can you look up page 25 of the 1901 Bulletin and give us the quote on that page from Mrs. White where she is talking about the need for a new organization.

Please thank you.

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Well here is something you forgot about in all your "careful" studies:
Shall we not take hold of our privileges? Let us not dwell upon the dark side of the picture, saying that we do not know how things are coming out; that everything seems to be torn up and broken to pieces. It is not so. We may place ourselves under the molding hand of God. He will make of us vessels unto honor, if we are willing to be made thus.
{GCB, April 4, 1901 par. 19}
See above post for full context. But note; this is from the GCB, 1901
 
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And of course, you are a meek peacemaker here, right? Every Friday night you bombast us with a bunch of denouncements and criticisms then say all this personal mantra about someone who questions you. You need to just turn those same guns you point at us on yourself.

Interesting to say bomblast which means to explode, I like that.:clap: It suddenly shakes your feather and I wonder why? :confused: What you continue you speak about does not upset me instead it sadden me to write the differents in what you state, that all. You have a beef with a lot of people my friend so if you do not agree just state why kindly and move on.:) You cannot state at anytime of my bombast episodes that I called you bad names or was rude to you at all! I got a little upset at first with you and another person but apologized and realize that I had no right. Only the HOLY SPIRIT can lead a person to accept truth not me. If you would just cool down and allow the HOLY SPIRIT to bomblast you I thing you will come out smoking.:D I love you though and I hope you love me. I do not mind that you do not agree with me but calling me a JW was a little to much with all the info I know about my own church.:doh: But it you and what should I expect so what do you have to say now good friend. I hope you would pray with me so that we can truly study together.

Happy Sabbath,
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I agree with you stin. I may not agree with everything you believe and teach but I feel the same way exactly about castaway. He does speak like a castaway. Bigotry might be another more appropriate word.

"The children of the kingdom shall be cast out." Jesus.

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rainbowinthesky:

I am not here to call anyone names but you and me and castaway have right to present our views. If it truth the HOLY SPIRIT will be Present. Castaway needs pray as we all do he just likes to stay within the box and for years I was like that but questions continue to bother me and I finally heed the call.

Have a happy Sabbath,
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Interesting to say bomblast which means to explode, I like that.:clap: It suddenly shakes your feather and I wonder why? :confused: What you continue you speak about does not upset me instead it sadden me to write the differents in what you state, that all. You have a beef with a lot of people my friend so if you do not agree just state why kindly and move on.:) You cannot state at anytime of my bombast episodes that I called you bad names or was rude to you at all! I got a little upset at first with you and another person but apologized and realize that I had no right. Only the HOLY SPIRIT can lead a person to accept truth not me. If you would just cool down and allow the HOLY SPIRIT to bomblast you I thing you will come out smoking.:D I love you though and I hope you love me. I do not mind that you do not agree with me but calling me a JW was a little to much with all the info I know about my own church.:doh: But it you and what should I expect so what do you have to say now good friend. I hope you would pray with me so that we can truly study together.

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri
LOL; I don't smoke; I don't have feathers and I am not "hot" so how can I cool down? It's amazing how much some think they can read "between the lines."
 
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rainbowinthesky:

I am not here to call anyone names but you and me and castaway have right to present our views. If it truth the HOLY SPIRIT will be Present. Castaway needs pray as we all do he just likes to stay within the box and for years I was like that but questions continue to bother me and I finally heed the call.

Have a happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri
What "box?"
 
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I don't smoke;

Who said you smoke? :confused:

I don't have feathers and I am not "hot" so how can I cool down?

I never called you a chicken or a bird aswell. However you are hot though just look at the words you say. You know I did not read everything when I first wrote back and I was happy when you apologize to rainbowinthesky. But soon as he quoted something that you did not agree with fire or words was out of your mouth.:doh: Now that's hot my friend. Why do you always say someone is not an SDA because they don't accept things the way you do???? That's hot too!​

It's amazing how much some think they can read "between the lines."

I do not read between lines but I read what people say and you my friend are caught up with SDA doctrines and traditions sad to say. But I feel ya and hope that we can get an understanding.​

What "box?"

That box that everything SDA leaders says is gospel truth. rainbow is telling you the truth about Jones; he was force out of the church so was Waggoner and Houteff. I guess now you will call me a Sheppard Rod ask some of my church friends here who I work to get them away from the Sheppard Rods. Did Brother Houteff have some truth, he did but he begins to wander off. I read both of his books and the second one was totally left field. But if I hadn't read them I would not have known what was correct or not! Jones and Waggoner were teaching the Righteousness of YAHSHUA and if the church had continue to listen to what they were teaching they would have truly understood and accepted the Feast Days. Also, there was suppose to be either two or three presidents over GC but they did not listen to EGW about that as well. The church did need reorganization but like you they did not like to see change. That my friend is staying within the box. I have never asked you to believe what I so call bomblasted you with every Sabbath not Friday. I asked you to check out what I presented and again you cannot accuse me of calling you out your name. I am peaceful but I guess I bomblast the truth with power of the HOLY SPIRIT.:) What I pray is that you would just think about things first, then ask questions, write them down, look up Scriptures or read the ones I presented, take time to look up words to find out their original meanings, check the historical facts and don't just take for granted things just because the leaders say they are true. If you still don't believe it is okay we just move on. But don't get upset if I present to others here you give your view and allow others to give theirs. Soon faith will eventually come to those who hold fast to what is peaceful, kind and loving. Remember the greatest of all is love! Blasting off! :)

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

PS: I write a lot on Sabbath evening because I am mostly busy taking care of my eighty eight year old mother. She is find but she has dementia and have suffer two strokes. I almost lost her but she is a strong spirtual minded woman. She touches everyone who comes to aid her through home health. I wish you could meet you would melt with joy because of her loving smile and cheerful hugs alway appreciating what anyone does for her.:amen:
 
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PS: I write a lot on Sabbath evening because I am mostly busy taking care of my eighty eight year old mother. She is find but she has dementia and have suffer two strokes. I almost lost her but she is a strong spirtual minded woman. She touches everyone who comes to aid her through home health. I wish you could meet you would melt with joy because of her loving smile and cheerful hugs alway appreciating what anyone does for her.:amen:
I don't mind if you think I'm "hot." or if I am packaged in the wrong "box." But I will say one thing. I would indeed enjoy meeting your mother. From what you have said about her in little bits and pieces here on the forums; she sounds like a very special lady. And she needs someone with a strong faith in Christ to help her and guide her through this trying time she is having. :)
 
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I don't mind if you think I'm "hot." or if I am packaged in the wrong "box." But I will say one thing. I would indeed enjoy meeting your mother. From what you have said about her in little bits and pieces here on the forums; she sounds like a very special lady. And she needs someone with a strong faith in Christ to help her and guide her through this trying time she is having. :)

Castaway:

She found the Sabbath on her own while she was carrying me. My father died on the Sabbath and he was not going to go to church that day. I was seven years old. My mother gave the letter she was holding that my older brother wrote. It shook him and he went to Church! When she joined the church she send my brother to oakwood academy, I also went much later. My aunt came to get my dad to show her about a refig he had, my mother asked he not to go. We had just came home from church and he stood up to be baptized the next Sabbath. He did not come back he fell to his death at my aunt's home. My mother worked three jobs to keep us in church school. I know you thing I am different but I am not. My mother taught us to study for ourselves like she did. Her baptist minister tried to change her mind about the Sabbath. When we left Atlanta and moved to New Haven my mother had Bible studies with every religion group under Protestism you could think of but she would asked them if they keep all the Commandments of ELOHIM. She said God because that's what she believed at that time. But no one could give her an answer until by a strange incident at work a man told her he recieve Bible studies from a couple. My mother also had dreams and when they brought the 20 Century Fox and we saw the Second Coming of YASHUA we all shouted this is your dream she had told us about. We always had worship even being Baptist. My mother before she became sick we were in New Orleans. She push me to speak up in Sabbath School the head minister over the Ministerial of GC was there in 2005. The subject was on Daniel and I spoke up about the errors of Uriah Smith and that Sabbath School was on fire. My mother always believe in me even when I left the church, she pray for me. I am crying now because she never gave up on me. I love her so much and even now she witness, she is not mean at all. I first pray and asked ELOHIM to heal her because she has given so many Bible Studies and worked with many Pastors and Evangelist over the years. I want her to work with me now but you know she does, by her attitude when folks come into our home. I am not here to argue with you or anyone but I present this message because I know in my heart what YAHWEH has done for me. I must go now because the tears just won't stop. Pray for me and my loving mother. Good night!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri
 
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Castaway:

I know you thing I am different but I am not. My mother taught us to study for ourselves like she did.
No. I don't think you are "different" in that sense. You seem like a very sincere christian. I enjoy your stories about your Mother, and the testimonies therein. We only have differing opinions on Bible doctrine. Thats not always so bad. :)


I know in my heart what YAHWEH has done for me. I must go now because the tears just won't stop. Pray for me and my loving mother. Good night!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri
From your posts about your Mother; it is obvious that you have given yourself to the Lord to be His wholly and altogether, and that He has taken you and has begun to mold and fashion you into a vessel unto His honor;and that your one most earnest desire is to be very pliable in His hands, and to follow Him wherever He may lead you, and I rejoice that you are trusting Him to work in you to will and to do of His good pleasure. So of course; I will pray for you & your mother. :thumbsup:
 
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