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Some games are against god

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You're not making any sense. If your first instincts were to harm your fellow man then that would explain why you don't believe in God.

Ever try to imagine killing another person? Lets get real. You feel all icky inside just thinking about such a horrible act. Not because you've been conditioned to feel that way, you just do.

I don't know what child soldiers have to do with the innate knowledge of killing being wrong. If the parent/s and society brainwashed those children then that innate knowledge doesn't go away, they just override it. Something is telling them it is wrong throughout the entire act I'm sure. Everyone has sinned and there is that tugging on their heart, that second guessing thought. Yet they commit the sin anyway.

Of course if you would read the New Testament all of this is explained.
Your speaking to a christian here, and I feel that kids are not innately kind, and have no qualms about mutilating and killing their fellows. They're just small, so they look cute. How many bullies were there when you were in kindergarten, 1st grade, 2nd grade...? If it was like my school then no few. They were out to hurt me, they thought it was funny, they had no compassion. I refuse to believe that they were born with some innate instinct for good. Heck, I would have happily watched them die at age 6. I wouldn't have missed them at all. Look back at your own life - how much did you care about the people you hated at age 6?
 
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It's absurd to blame video games, where did you get your statistics? Crime rate has NOT gone up over the years, in fact... it has gone down, they just seem to show about 3 times more on the news. All of this is too scare us and keep us in line. Keep us thinking that things are only getting worse... so they can take more rights, in forms of Patriot Acts, etc. :p

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If games are just games and entertainment would it be ok if a situation came up where in order for your character to go the next lvl, complete a quest,or obtain a new weapon etc.. that your character had to bow down and worship the devil or some other god? If by saying it is just a game there should be no problem with anyone doing this because it is just a game correct?? I am not aware of any game where this is requred but this is to prove a point about rpg.

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iggy said:
It's absurd to blame video games, where did you get your statistics? Crime rate has NOT gone up over the years, in fact... it has gone down, they just seem to show about 3 times more on the news. All of this is too scare us and keep us in line. Keep us thinking that things are only getting worse... so they can take more rights, in forms of Patriot Acts, etc. :p

-IGGY
No thats just the news trying to make money. They would put up anything that would atract veiwers, this in return atracts commercials so they can make money. Its just a business.
 
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No thats just the news trying to make money. They would put up anything that would atract veiwers, this in return atracts commercials so they can make money. Its just a business.
How does it attract viewers for the news to say crime has gone DOWN? Wouldnt it be better to say crime has gone UP, therefore keeping people inside because they want to stay safe, and watch their news broadcasts as they show all the new crimewaves?
 
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So wait... you mean to tell me that if we read the New Testament we'll automatically understand why it is that mankind doesn't wish to kill? Because it seems to me that people during the Crusades were well aware of what the New Testament was telling them (or at least the church-who supported them.) Also, you can't really make a solid relation between crime and gaming. Gamers in general (at least from my experience) are much less apt to partake in criminal activites. Do the inner city kids shooting at each other own computers with a fast enough connection to run any of today's games? And if you try relating suicides and stuff to gaming, just look at the number of high school students who kill themselves because they couldn't win the big football game, or if they broke up with their boy/girlfriend. Are you saying we should ban high school sports and dating in our youth population?
 
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I never actually got what the religious community had against D&D :scratch: The only game I ever played that was anti-religious (or at least could be perceived as being that) is Xenogears, which sports one of the deepest (and most controversial) storylines in the video-gaming world.

As for the actual violence in games teaching kids to kill each other or whatnot, it's just people looking for something to blame this on. The times of blaming everything on the devil have passed, now you can blame it on games and movies. I don't know about the other gamers, but I've always rated video games on storyline first and everything else second. To me it's like a book or a movie that you take part in. And, after playing video games for almost 15 years I'm still one of those people who can't even kill an insect.

All of this violence comes from parents not talking enough with their kids. Or censoring too much of the outside world. Personally, I think that cartoons like Tom & Jerry with their "shoot the kitty and nothing happens" plots are far more dangerous to the child's psyche than any film/game/cartoon which shows what happens if you shoot somebody. Of course, the parents have to be there, in order to talk to their child and explain. I may be wrong on that one of course, but that's just my opinion.

I really do hope that none of the anti-magic-in-games people ever decide to go into making video games because those would be some visually boring RPGs to play. You can't have the "Fantasy" genre without magic :)
 
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armed2010 said:
How does it attract viewers for the news to say crime has gone DOWN? Wouldnt it be better to say crime has gone UP, therefore keeping people inside because they want to stay safe, and watch their news broadcasts as they show all the new crimewaves?
I thought you were talking about bad news, meaning to scare us into doing right.
 
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To quote a website that I can't link to due to lack of blessings:


With all of the concern over the content of video games, it's natural to question whether your child should be allowed to play them at all. Lobbyists have linked games to numerous negative side effects in children, including violent behavior, lacking social skills, and an inability to discern between what's real and what is fantasy. They have tried to push the idea that video games have been a key motivation for incidents like the Columbine school shootings of 1999. They theorize that games that teach children how to shoot a weapon may even trigger violent, even deadly, behaviors.


Interestingly, no scholarly studies have been done to prove this, and a Washington court recently blocked a ruling that would make it illegal to sell a game depicting violence against law enforcement officials to minors. In essence, this law protects the First Amendment rights already granted to other forms of entertainment.


Many stories are done on the potential negatives of video games, even if research on that topic has been minor at best, so how about we take a look at some of the positives? Professor Henry Jenkins is an MIT instructor of Comparative Media who has done extensive research on the positive effects of video gaming. His findings indicate that children (especially males) naturally possess a great deal of pent-up energy and aggression. His studies have found that video games provide children with an outlet for their aggression, suggesting that gaming is a healthy alternative to playground fighting or contact sports.

"Gamers confronting a challenging level draw on their full intelligence, often rehearsing alternative approaches, working through complex challenges well into the night," said Professor Jenkins in a recent interview. "Games push learners forward, forcing them to stretch in order to respond to problems just on the outer limits of their current mastery."


To further validate the points presented by Professor Jenkins, a 2002 BBC report sheds light on a UK study by Teachers Evaluating Educational Multimedia (TEEM), which found that games "develop children's strategic thinking and planning skills." Parents and teachers whose children participated in the study also noticed that there were improvements in their children's math, spelling and reading.


There also seems to be physical benefits to video games. According to a study earlier this year, researchers at the University of Rochester found that young adults who regularly play action-packed video games have much better perception than those who have never touched a controller. Gamers showed that they kept better track of objects appearing simultaneously and processed fast-changing visual information more efficiently.


Now while these recent studies have been showing the benefits of video gaming, it takes a good parent with solid guidance to make the most out of your family's gaming experiences. The video game industry is growing faster than it ever has before, and the field is only going to get larger. By utilizing tools like the ESRB ratings and the Gamesville guide to PC & video games, and by keeping in mind the positive effects that the right games can have on your child, you as a parent are now empowered to purchase games that will both entertain and intellectually stimulate your child.

 
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Most of these games are really antiChristian in my opinion. My brother has some that revolve around graveyards; another with zombies; another with alot of weapons and killing in a military zone that looks like the inside of a submarine with alot of "steel". It is senseless killing. The music is scary too.

I don't like them at all. The graphics are very advanced and interesting and the music is very stimulating in a fearful way, but I do not like this at all.
 
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Sunbeam said:
Most of these games are really antiChristian in my opinion. My brother has some that revolve around graveyards; another with zombies; another with alot of weapons and killing in a military zone that looks like the inside of a submarine with alot of "steel".
My guess is

Resident Evil

and um...Half Life?
 
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My guess is

Resident Evil

and um...Half Life?


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Resident Evil sounds familiar.

I was playing some of these once, yeah, read ONCE lol, and it was late at night and cold and dark outside, I got really paranoid to say the least. I declared they were not of God.
 
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Sunbeam said:
My guess is

Resident Evil

and um...Half Life?


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Resident Evil sounds familiar.

I was playing some of these once, yeah, read ONCE lol, and it was late at night and cold and dark outside, I got really paranoid to say the least. I declared they were not of God.
so you got scared, while playing a horror game, and decided they were not of god?
 
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