Sola Scriptura

[CaliforniaJosiah]

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[homewardbound]

Sola Scriptura cannot be what Christ wanted. The Bible was given by the authority of the Catholic Church. We should not follow the bible ALONE but also the teachings of the Church.

If your church (or mine for that matter) starts teaching that it's ok to steal, are you going to follow their teaching?

If any church teaching can't withstand scriptural scrutiny, then what good is it? That's all sola scriptura is saying.

 

[IamAdopted]

No we should not follow the teachings of the church if they do not line up with the bible.. We are to follow Christ. Not a church.. Christ is the alpha and the omega.. He is eternal and has the words to life.. Him alone should be adhered to.. Not teachings of what men have said is true.. Line up what men say to the scriptures to make sure that these men are teaching truth and not leading you into error.. This can be a fatal consequence/.

 

[Jerrysch]

Also, it makes no sense to say that Scripture is the only thing given inspired by God when Scripture itself makes reference to teachings not explicitly contained within.

Your statement doesn't follow, indeed many things were referred to in Scripture, that doesn't make them inspired of God, it is God who deciedes what is Inspired and what is not. Even if the Scriptures make a reference to teachings, that hardly is an endorsement of those teachings.

 

[Jerrysch]

He was referring to the Old Testament because there was no New yet.

Personal notes of Paul are not Scripture because the Church did not put them into the canon.

You have got it backward, It is the Holy Spirit who makes anything Scripture, the church does not make Scripture.

 

[Jerrysch]

You shouldn't trust the traditions of men. The only authority you need is Bible. It is God's word. All you need to know is in that book. To follow a church tradition is to follow a man when instead we should all be following Jesus Christ.

But there are many traditions that are good, we shouldn't neglect them just becasue they are traditions, the trouble is when men supplant the Scripture in favor of thier man made traditions.

 

[Jerrysch]

No we should not follow the teachings of the church if they do not line up with the bible.. We are to follow Christ. Not a church.. Christ is the alpha and the omega.. He is eternal and has the words to life.. Him alone should be adhered to.. Not teachings of what men have said is true.. Line up what men say to the scriptures to make sure that these men are teaching truth and not leading you into error.. This can be a fatal consequence/.

 

[AngCath]

You have got it backward, It is the Holy Spirit who makes anything Scripture, the church does not make Scripture.

It is an historical fact that the Church acted to make certain epistles Scripture and others not.

 

[Jerrysch]

It is an historical fact that the Church acted to make certain epistles Scripture and others not.

Men do not make Scripture God makes Scripture, it is done by the work of the Holy Spirit. He by His own authority, inspires what He will and that then is Scripture, mortal men have nothing to do with the making of Scripture, no matter what you are being taught.

 

[AngCath]

if men have nothing to do with it, why did men have to physically write it?

 

[Jerrysch]

if men have nothing to do with it, why did men have to physically write it?

Scripture is written text that has been inspired by the Holy Spirit. He determines what He will inspire. A man might to intend to write something, but the Holy Spirit causes it to be Scripture by inspiring it. No inspiration, no Scripture. Just that simple

 

[AngCath]

which brings me back to the question, how can we discern a text's inspiration if not by the Church?

 

[Bound]

which brings me back to the question, how can we discern a text's inspiration if not by the Church?

Grace and Peace be with you,

By the guidance of the indwelling Spirit would be my guess. No institution is bound to the guidance of the indwelling Spirit, which I would argue, means that no institution can be an infallible guide of the Word of God. We, as individuals, need to discern the truth through the guidance of the indwelling Spirit within us.

I don't think it's all that easy but I believe that it is what we, as Christians, are called to do.

God Bless!

 

[Jerrysch]

which brings me back to the question, how can we discern a text's inspiration if not by the Church?

Evaluating it myself Here are my texts;

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArchives/theological-dictionary/TD1W0402.pdf

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArchives/theological-dictionary/TD3W0402.pdf

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArchives/theological-dictionary/TD1W0502.pdf


His statements need to be understood within the context in which he presents them.