I think your right. Its called
LUST that many married couples fall into mistakenly thinking it isn't really sin because its within the context of marriage. I know I did once. The cure was painful too.
Its one step away from much worse things and if the truth be known the same liberal attitude is probably held toward porn too. I can surmise that these folks who think this way also fail to temper their gaze at others and we know what Jesus said about that.
I totally agree... I think that it's possible to fall into lust within marriage too, and yea that's pretty tricky because it's relatively easy to make it look like it's not a sin in that context..
'disordered' sexuality within a marriage is still disordered.. if that makes sense..
Now everyone is going to chime in and say that it glorifies God to be with their spouse, because selfless giving is what God desires in a marriage relationship. You aren't going to get many votes in line with that thinking. ^^
lol.. yea.. I think that it does glorify God to be with one's spouse but
only in the way that He intended.
Let's remember that just as lies are often half-truths, sin is often corrupted good.
I think Jesus wants me to take my wife's desires and preferences and requests into account when we make love.
Please explain further. Which activities (presuming they are mutually desired and agreed upon) do you suppose Jesus doesn't want us doing with him present in us? The Church is clear that kissing is okay, and JPII was clear that we are to see to it that both parties are satisfied durring lovemaking and that foreplay and afterplay are okay - so why do you suppose that kissing your spouse there is going to make Jesus sad?
because the reason reproductive organs exist at all is to procreate. (lol I sound like a biology textbook..) oral sex is going outside of their intended function.
Sodomy in the OP's definition - which includes oral sex between man and wife - does not fail the test, Monica. Be careful not to confuse an irrational "ick-feeling" with a moral judgement. Face it, if we listened to our initial "ick-feelings", and did not educate ourselves away from them, we would then consider ALL sex grossly immoral. (Remember when you were first told about sex?) Let me tell you from the experience of a long and loving marriage, oral sex has an important and altogether respectable place in it - especially at times of certain types of illness or unfitness.
The Church is silent on this particular matter, it's as simple as that.
oki well I just have one reason for disagreeing with oral (and anal) sex. I do consider it "icky" lol but that's not the reason I have a problem with it. The problem is that as I said to Mike, those parts of the body are meant for something else. Those types of sex can't ever result in conception, so that seems wrong to me. It's the same reason that masturbation is considered a sin by the Church. It is my opinion that the only "right" type of sex is one that can
potentially produce a child.
That being said, it's not my place to judge what people do with their spouses, I myself an not married and never have been. So for all I know, I might be wrong. But the way I put it in the above paragraph, that makes sense to me. I've decided to be careful about these things, because in the past I haven't been as pure as I should have been; so I just don't want to continue making mistakes. I'd rather be careful.
Maybe the best thing is to just pray about it
God knows what the truth is. And as I said it's not my place to say what people should do with their wives/husbands..