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<blockquote data-quote="Axioma" data-source="post: 54320929" data-attributes="member: 230089"><p>I don't believe in heaven. Or hell. Which is the whole point of my argument -that if you want to be a good person, you should do good things because they're the right things to do, not because God will reward you for it. And you should avoid doing bad things because they cause suffering and because they're, well, bad, not because God will punish you for it.</p><p></p><p>In fact, I'm not even sure I am a good person. </p><p></p><p> No, not really. There is no absolute standard nor a giver of such standards. Each of us can only make the best judgments we can ourselves. There is no justice. There is just us. Or, if you prefer it another way, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.</p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Century'"></span>For obvious reasons,this doesn't matter to me.</p><p></p><p>But yes, this is all completely offtopic. I'd like to state for the record that I think clirus is a horrible person, because he enjoys implying that people who are suffering or in terrible pain and in need of help deserve exactly what they're getting, since the only explanation for it is that they must have sinned and that's their punishment.</p><p></p><p>Socialism is feeding a person for a day instead of telling that person they deserve to be hungry. If money is given to a man and as a consequence that man lives when he otherwise would have died, then that money was not wasted.</p><p></p><p>Socialism is more than that, though. Socialism isn't teaching a man to fish, but it is making sure that the pond is communal property and everyone has access to it, instead of one man claiming it as his and charging money for it which ends up with the man who has learned to fish having to give the fish he catches to the man who owns the pond for the privilege of having been allowed to catch them.</p><p></p><p>There's a word for what clirus believes. It's called the Prosperity Gospel, and <em>it</em> truly is evil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Axioma, post: 54320929, member: 230089"] [FONT=Century][/FONT]I don't believe in heaven. Or hell. Which is the whole point of my argument -that if you want to be a good person, you should do good things because they're the right things to do, not because God will reward you for it. And you should avoid doing bad things because they cause suffering and because they're, well, bad, not because God will punish you for it. In fact, I'm not even sure I am a good person. [FONT=Century][/FONT][FONT=Century][/FONT] No, not really. There is no absolute standard nor a giver of such standards. Each of us can only make the best judgments we can ourselves. There is no justice. There is just us. Or, if you prefer it another way, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. [FONT=Century] [/FONT][FONT=Century][/FONT]For obvious reasons,this doesn't matter to me. But yes, this is all completely offtopic. I'd like to state for the record that I think clirus is a horrible person, because he enjoys implying that people who are suffering or in terrible pain and in need of help deserve exactly what they're getting, since the only explanation for it is that they must have sinned and that's their punishment. Socialism is feeding a person for a day instead of telling that person they deserve to be hungry. If money is given to a man and as a consequence that man lives when he otherwise would have died, then that money was not wasted. Socialism is more than that, though. Socialism isn't teaching a man to fish, but it is making sure that the pond is communal property and everyone has access to it, instead of one man claiming it as his and charging money for it which ends up with the man who has learned to fish having to give the fish he catches to the man who owns the pond for the privilege of having been allowed to catch them. There's a word for what clirus believes. It's called the Prosperity Gospel, and [I]it[/I] truly is evil. [/QUOTE]
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