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Your dedication to Godless ideals is the proof of OP's warning.
*He not she, I'm male
True Scotsman, my own thoughts test pretty much everything I see, everybody does. Its just all about what type of filter you're using for yourself.. I have already chose God and I never want to forsake him. Jesus has set me free, free from the trap which makes men dwell on only things of this earth. God bless bro.
. Yes I suppose Christianity needs to protect you from outside teachings because this world is not too good and the devil is seeking people to devour.
Maybe its because of my age I could be not open minded enough or my own beliefs, but I'm still believing in Jesus and God no matter what, which is the important thing right?
I'm dedicated to reason. Do you claim that reason is Godless? She has made a number of assertions amounting to saying it is dangerous to think for one's self. I want to know why I should accept this and I require more than someone's say so. If she thinks it is dangerous to think for one's self then how did she come to her beliefs, without any thought?
I'm not really too thrilled about the fearful spirit of the OP, it does border on cultic narrowness, fear of truths other than those one might get second hand. I also find it genuinely odd that people seem to have more faith in the Satan creature than God. On the one hand they hold steadfastly to One God, but then claim Satan is God of this world. Lots of inconsistent speculation in that.
To your questions, I think reason is a vital component to thinking but mind has the ability to correlate reason with experience and spiritual truth and arrive at a comprehensive philosophical view.
Today we are born into a ready made religion, well meaning people instruct believers to "beware" of the pitfalls, some are legitimate concerns.
You though have made your decision, now you promote a godless philosophy.
Colossians 2:8 ESV / 251 helpful votes
"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
Philosophy to me is dangerous, because its quite possible it can contradict God and makes us believe in our own understandings which is risky because Satan can munipuliate your perception if you aren't steadfast to God.
Most important advice is never close your mind, because you will be so easily entangled and trapped in views which may not be truth.
If you remain in faith to Jesus he can keep your mind open and feed you so you don't become weary.
Colossians 2:8 ESV / 251 helpful votes
"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
Philosophy to me is dangerous, because its quite possible it can contradict God and makes us believe in our own understandings which is risky because Satan can munipuliate your perception if you aren't steadfast to God.
Most important advice is never close your mind, because you will be so easily entangled and trapped in views which may not be truth.
If you remain in faith to Jesus he can keep your mind open and feed you so you don't become weary.
No that is what you have interpreted it as. I was saying if we take away the religious aspect that seems to repel people because it has "God" associated with it. It seems as soon as you mention God its like a sudden defenses up and reaction of no I'm not having that sort of bull. So I am saying if we just look at what is being said without all that we can see that there is a lot of good stuff. If you used Jesus as the role model then we would have a good example to go by. If we used the teachings of Jesus to go by then we would have a good model for life. People are quick and willing to put forward many other role models like pop and sports stars because they are cool or seem to portray success with wealth. They look like they are happy and they look good so many think, oh I wish I could be like them. But what better role model than Jesus.I really wish you could see the irony of the first two statements I quoted here in relation to the third. It's staggering. Imagine, if you will, that you said them in reverse order. You're basically saying...
Jesus made the claim that was a living embodiment of truth and life and "the way" (whatever that refers to). We have to agree with all this because...you know...he's Jesus! I don't know why people get hung up on the religious aspects of christianity...why can't they just use my religious figure as a role model?
Are you seeing the irony yet? You're basically asking people to trust a character based on his religious claims while telling them to ignore the religious aspects of Jesus and focus on him as a regular guy lol.
Please tell me.If you were serious about this though, I can actually tell you why I don't focus on his regular guy aspects...
Its a mere warning to be cautious. Philosophy sometimes can be a substitute for God's word. And it can be very tempting to believe it. I take it back If I sounded like I was totally against it.. I believe in the Holy Spirit and the idea people are helping each other to become better people is something so vital.
I don't wanna argue I just wanted to share a bible verse so people know philosophy can sometimes have the ability to trap people.
Please tell me.
If Christianity is true, it should require no protection from differing opinions. Only false beliefs require the silencing of opposition to remain widely held.
No, that's not the important thing. The important thing is to believe things which are actually true, and to not believe things which are actually false. In short, the important thing is to correlate your internal view of reality to actual reality as best as possible.
If you believe in God and Jesus, and your beliefs are in error, that can lead you to a lot of problems in your life. As such, you should take an impartial look at the arguments for both sides, and accept or reject belief based on those arguments individual merits.
"If you possess the real truth and are so certain of it, why the fear?"
I never mentioned to be fearful I said its a "mere warning to be cautious"..
Proverbs 14:16 "The wise are cautious and avoid danger; fools plunge ahead with great confidence."
"If you possess the real truth and are so certain of it, why the fear?" I never mentioned to be fearful I said its a "mere warning to be cautious" about Philosophy.. You know, ways it can give us a different view which contradicts Jesus teachings..
Proverbs 14:16 "The wise are cautious and avoid danger; fools plunge ahead with great confidence."
But what if he is right. You will never know unless you have a go. It many will reject the message before they even consider giving it a go. If it doesn't work then what harm is done.But what if Jesus was wrong?
Its directed at everyone. If we take what Jesus said at face value then we have a person who claimed to be God and that He was the way and truth. So we would either have to say He was mad or insane. So here we have a person claiming something and saying believe me. We can either believe that or not and there's no middle ground.You are already assuming without question that you have the correct answer and view anything else as a threat to making you change your mind.
So ironically, that piece of scripture is directed mostly at people like yourself.
But what if he is right. You will never know unless you have a go. It many will reject the message before they even consider giving it a go. If it doesn't work then what harm is done.
Its directed at everyone. If we take what Jesus said at face value then we have a person who claimed to be God and that He was the way and truth. So we would either have to say He was mad or insane. So here we have a person claiming something and saying believe me. We can either believe that or not and there's no middle ground.
This is a common argument, it was first put forward by C.S. Lewis in his "lunatic, liar or lord" argument.
You avoided answering my question.
That being said, I have given Christianity a go, I was a Christian at one point. I've read the bible cover to cover and I've read books from both the pro-christian side, and the anti-christian side.
Given the rather extensive research I've done over the span of many years, the case for Christianity simply does not hold any water at all.
Now that being said, answer my question.... What if Jesus was wrong?
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