So You Lutheran??

[theologia crucis]

Calm down! I just knew two quick ways of getting to the Lutheran confessions. I haven't searched www.elca.org in a while to see where y'all have 'em posted...

I bet www.wels.net has 'em somewhere, too! I don't want to short change our Wisconsin brethren!

And they're also here: http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/wittenberg-luther.html#sw-lc

 

[Phoebe]

Calm down! I just knew two quick ways of getting to the Lutheran confessions. I haven't searched www.elca.org in a while to see where y'all have 'em posted...

I bet www.wels.net has 'em somewhere, too! I don't want to short change our Wisconsin brethren!

And they're also here: http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/wittenberg-luther.html#sw-lc[/QUOTE]

 

[Filia Mariae]

One of the differences between Mass and Lutheran is that you won't find the wine witheld from Lutheran laity.

Nor is it witheld from the Catholic laity.

The Lord's Prayer recited in the Lutheran church is the longer version. (Catholics stop with 'but deliver us from evil.'

No we don't, we pause for the priest to recite a short prayer and then conclude with the rest of the Our Father.

 

[Phoebe]

No we don't, we pause for the priest to recite a short prayer and then conclude with the rest of the Our Father.

Really? I don't remember that.


Go back one page. I admitted to my being wrong about the Communion.

 

[Flipper]

Carly is right. At least that's how I remember saying it when I was Catholic.

When the Methodists say the Lord's Prayer, they say it the same as Lutherans, but they break the sentences in different places. When I go to my husband's former church (where the in-laws go), I just don't say anything at the end of it, or I will embarass myself.

Re the OP: I go to one of the few LCMS churches that has all contemporary services. The Pastor doesn't even wear robes (anymore, he used to). We have a rock band style praise team (pastor plays lead guitar) and most of the music is popular contemporary Christian. However, we do traditional hymns once in a while, and sometimes, they are rocked up to more contemporary music, giving it a whole new spin. There's also three services on Sunday and the smallest service has over 400 people.

Kim (Phoebe) visited it once at the smaller service and I think it freaked her out.

 

[Phoebe]

I freak out easily.

My memory must be shot. I don't even remember finishing the prayer in RCIA, and it isn't printed with the rosary instructions.

 

[ByzantineDixie]

Nah, your memory is not shot yet (give it a few years though and some kind of cruel pre-menopausal thing happens--they tell me it goes away but I don't know how much time I'll get from the time it disappears and senility sets it!!!)

In the RCC the Lord's Prayer for things like the rosary and general prayer does stop before "for thine is....", but during the mass the priest says something after "deliver us from evil" and the congregational response is on the order of "for the kingdom and the power and the glory are yours, now and forever".

Since my brother and his family have stayed in the RCC...I get a chance to worship with them periodically and I ALWAYS mess up by going on ahead...then, of course, I fell like there is this flashing sign over my head saying "token protestant here"!

What is RCIA?

Rose

 

[Filia Mariae]

"May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands for the praise and glory of his name, for our good, and the good of all his Church." This might go right past a person...but this refers to what theologia crucis identified as the re-sacrifice of Christ...which Catholics believe and Lutherans do not. And the whole transubstantiation thing is not at all transparent in the liturgy alone.

Catholics do NOT believe that Jesus is re-sacrificed in the Eucharist. Please, if you do not know what we believe do not attempt to explain it to others.

What is RCIA?

Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults. It is the way adults are brought into the Church.

 

[I can eat 50 eggs]

ROTFLOL!


One of the differences between Mass and Lutheran is that you won't find the wine witheld from Lutheran laity.
The Lord's Prayer recited in the Lutheran church is the longer version. (Catholics stop with 'but deliver us from evil.'
The Lutheran church teaches that we are saved by faith. (in Jesus)
There are more, and I will let my Lutheran brethren come along and answer more of this.

you won't find the wine withheld in the RCC church either!

And the the Catholics finish the Lord's prayer , just with an interuption in between.

 

[I can eat 50 eggs]

oh geez, I thought I might have something to add, but I see TC is on this thread, and he always knows more than me!

 

[ByzantineDixie]

Catholics do NOT believe that Jesus is re-sacrificed in the Eucharist. Please, if you do not know what we believe do not attempt to explain it to others.

Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults. It is the way adults are brought into the Church.

Please know I had no intention of typing an inaccuracy or misleading anyone. I have to admit I defaulted to a teaching I once heard on the subject (which surprised me at the time because I spent 30 years in the RCC and never heard such a thing!). I have since done some additional study and realize "re-" was an inappropriate modifier.

Carly...as I indicated I grew up in the Catholic church, 8 years of Catholic grade school, played my guitar for folk masses in the 70's, and periodically I still try to get in a Life Teen mass every now and then. I may not always get things right when I type about the Catholic church but I have some very valid history, experiences and memories (as best as that works these days!!!) that on occasion may be appropriate to post. I will do my best to be completely accurate but I may make mistakes. I welcome a gentle hand of correction but not censorship. Deal?

Christ's Peace

Rose

 

[Filia Mariae]

Rose,

I realize your intent was not to be deceitful, and I sincerely apologize if my post implied that.

This particular issue is sensitive because time and time again anti-Catholic sources claim we believe that we "re-sacrifice" Jesus in the Mass, when in fact we proclaim the once and for all sacrifice of Jesus for our salvation.

Again, I apologize if I made it seem like I thought your mistake was intentional.

 

[PuppyforChrist]

Also the wine looked clear.....anybody know what that was about?

Most Lutheran churches that I know of (at least mine does) serves two drinks at communion, wine and grape juice. It sounds to me like you saw the grape juice. It's just for people who can't have wine or prefer something else. For me the alcohol burns my chest so I take grape juice. No biggy, just thought I'd throw that in.