so you know more than the pope?

[daydreamergurl15]

Holy Matrimony is a Sacrament in the Catholic Church...they're certainly not forbidding marriage. Not even all priests in the Church are expected not to marry - that is only a discipline in the Latin rite; priests in the Byzantine rite, for example, are allowed to marry. It is simply a discipline of the Latin rite priests, which nobody is forcing them into. If they don't want to remain celibate, they don't have to join the priesthood.

Forgetting about the fact that there is no such priesthood presented in scripture. One should not be disqualified to join said priesthood because they refuse to remain celibate, especially if that priesthood is said to be founded on Christian principles and doctrines. It's interesting, even the Priest in the Old Testament were allowed to get married.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

I would strongly recommend that everyone read Benedict's books Jesus of Nazareth and The Spirit of the Liturgy. Very edifying, and very full of Scripture.

Thank you for the recommendations.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Why do Catholic priests have to be celibate?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Why do Catholic priests have to be celibate?

I am still waiting for you to present a link to that article you saw concerning the Pope being seen sitting on a throne

http://www.christianforums.com/t7534038/#post56720292

 

[godisreal36]

Holy Matrimony is a Sacrament in the Catholic Church...they're certainly not forbidding marriage. Not even all priests in the Church are expected not to marry - that is only a discipline in the Latin rite; priests in the Byzantine rite, for example, are allowed to marry. It is simply a discipline of the Latin rite priests, which nobody is forcing them into. If they don't want to remain celibate, they don't have to join the priesthood.

I say they dont need to be single to be a priest either acording to the HS and Paul who spoke by it. And again its a part of the catholic Church isn't it? Or maybe im wrong? If it is, it is the Catholics who need to condider the words spoken my The HS through Paul. Other Churches dont seem to have this problem anywhere. But then again they dont have a pope either.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Because he thinks NO he believes he is king of this world.

And how do you know that?

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

I am still waiting for you to present a link to that article you saw concerning the Pope being seen sitting on a throne

http://www.christianforums.com/t7534038/#post56720292

Oh I'm sorry. I googled it and here are the results: Google Search.

 

[Melethiel]

Forgetting about the fact that there is no such priesthood presented in scripture. One should not be disqualified to join said priesthood because they refuse to remain celibate, especially if that priesthood is said to be founded on Christian principles and doctrines. It's interesting, even the Priest in the Old Testament were allowed to get married.

I didn't say I agree with it, I'm just pointing out that it's not like the Catholic Church is forbidding marriage. Those verses cited aren't against the future Latin rite of the Catholic Church, they're against heretical groups extant at the time that were looking for the imminent end of the world and did, indeed, forbid marriage for everyone.

 

[godisreal36]

Someone will teach this false doctrine, its the Word of God. Who will or who is teaching this false doctrine if not the Catholic Church? To deny its being taught or that it will be taught is to deny Gods own word, isn't it? Just asking, i don't think so highly of myself, i follow what i believe God directs me too, and Grace sustains me through it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus I am still waiting for you to present a link to that article you saw concerning the Pope being seen sitting on a throne

http://www.christianforums.com/t7534038/#post56720292

Oh I'm sorry. I googled it and here are the results: Google Search.

Looks more like a oversized chair to me

Christian Forums - View Single Post - Chair of Peter question
Chair of Peter question

YouTube - Raw Video: Boy Sneaks Past Papal Security

 

[godisreal36]

Has a pope ever married? Does this have anything to do with this discussion? I dont know, just posting it for discussion.

 

[Yarddog]

I say they dont need to be single to be a priest either acording to the HS and Paul who spoke by it. And again its a part of the catholic Church isn't it? Or maybe im wrong? If it is, it is the Catholics who need to condider the words spoken my The HS through Paul. Other Churches dont seem to have this problem anywhere. But then again they dont have a pope either.

The Catholic Church considers the words spoken by the Holy Spirit and every single writer of scripture. There is nothing in scripture which denies celibacy. Jesus was celibate, Paul was celibate, and many of the early Bishops and monks were celibate, and other figures of the early Church.

The rule pertaining to celibacy can be changed but that is up to those who have chosen celibacy, not Catholics or non-Catholics.

 

[godisreal36]

Doesn't the bible say something about calling no man Father? If so, Isn't the pope just a man? And isn't Jesus the Head of the Church? Why do they say the pope is the head? I know the pope is under Jesus, but why take Gods title and why call Him the Head of the church when thats Jesus title? Why do they say the Pope is the Holy Father, isn't that Gods own title?

Does he not take two titles from our God and our Lord and Savior at the same time?

Can not only God forgive sins? if so where does the pope get his authority to do so? That is if he has that authority and I'm not just mistaken in some way.

Could this be why people say the pope thinks hes King?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Looks more like a oversized chair to me

Christian Forums - View Single Post - Chair of Peter question
Chair of Peter question

YouTube - Raw Video: Boy Sneaks Past Papal Security

So what differentiates a Chair and a Throne

 

[Stryder06]

The Catholic Church considers the words spoken by the Holy Spirit and every single writer of scripture. There is nothing in scripture which denies celibacy. Jesus was celibate, Paul was celibate, and many of the early Bishops and monks were celibate, and other figures of the early Church.

The rule pertaining to celibacy can be changed but that is up to those who have chosen celibacy, not Catholics or non-Catholics.

Jesus was God and I'm pretty sure your traitions teach that Peter was celibate.

As for Paul and the other bishops, if they were like Paul, it was by choice.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Wasn't Peter married?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Doesn't the bible say something about calling no man Father?
Could this be why people say the pope thinks hes King?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7430321/
Call no man father

OP:

To play it safe, I recommend the following subsitutes:

Pops
Daddio
Old Man
Pappy
Jim Anderson

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

It may be an over sized chair, LLOJ. I thought it looked more like a throne. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

 

[Dark_Lite]

Jesus was God and I'm pretty sure your traitions teach that Peter was celibate.

As for Paul and the other bishops, if they were like Paul, it was by choice.

Peter was married.

Wasn't Peter married?

Yes.

As for why the Pope sits on a throne: all bishops sit on thrones of some kind or another. It is an ecclesiastical seat. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedra

 

[Hentenza]

Jesus was God and I'm pretty sure your traitions teach that Peter was celibate.

Paul tells us that Peter had a wife that traveled with him. Not even tradition can trump that one.