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Every person is created by God. Every person is different. Every person is attracted to sin. There is nothing different about a gay person, who are all the same beautiful, beloved children of God that you are. And, surprisingly enough, even me. We are a called to holiness through the mortification of earthly desire. We all have different forms of that challenge.
Homosexual attraction is disordered. God created Adam and made Eve for his mate. God didn't create the world disordered. He created it with perfect order and perfect harmony. The sin of Adam and Eve caused sin to enter the world, and that's what brought sin and disorder into the world. But just to make sure no one thinks I'm bashing gays. Although homosexual attraction is disordered, it's not a sin unless it's acted upon. People with same sex attraction can make it to Heaven, but they are called to a celibate life.
Homosexual attraction is disordered
All I was saying is that God did not create us disordered. Therefore homosexual attraction, which is a disordered attraction (it says this in the Catechism of the Catholic Church), is not something that was created by God. God created the world with order, not disorder. Although we all have a tendency to sin, God didn't originally create humans with sin or with disordered attractions or behavior. Disorder came when sin entered into the world after the fall of Adam and Eve.So is the tendency to lie, cheat and steal. But it is not a disorder of a human, it is a disorder to the spirit.
God created Adam and made Eve for his mate.
Some animals sometimes demonstrate what is mistaken for homosexual behavior when one male mounts another such as when wolves do this is to establish dominance in the pack. It's symbolic, not homosexual. Or if one were to put two male animals together in captivity and not have any females around one animal might rape the other but only because they are put in an unnatural environment. If a female were to be introduced, the male would prefer the female.God did not set us down like Ken and Barbie in the Mattel plastic Paradise, read the Catechism, the language is SYMBOLIC. Here is the world, you can decide whatever you want about what God has and has not done, but the fact is every single species of vertebrate animal ever studied from fish to chickens to monkeys has a predictable population of individuals with same gender attraction. As do humans.
No, this is just uneducated wishful thinking. SCIENCE - you know - those people with all the letters after their names that actually study this stuff- has observed again and again, especially in social species, what is simply nothing else than same-sex attraction and behavior, and in a natural environment. It's not "dominance" or "unnatural" or whatever you tell yourself to pretend this is not perfectly natural.Some animals sometimes demonstrate what is mistaken for homosexual behavior ....
Saint Paul warns many times about sexual sins of the flesh.And, appropriate to Lent fast-approaching, those not so "fleshly" but of the state of being in the flesh such as greed, judgement, self-righteousness, indifference, control. The temptation to despair.
Nevertheless, even if there was any real proof of exclusive homosexual preference in animals (which you have not provided), humans are not called to act like animals. Animals greet each other by smelling each others butts, and they sometimes fling feces at each other. But God expects more of humans. Like I said, the world we see today has disorder in it, but God didn't create it that way.No, this is just uneducated wishful thinking. SCIENCE - you know - those people with all the letters after their names that actually study this stuff- has observed again and again, especially in social species, what is simply nothing else than same-sex attraction and behavior, and in a natural environment. It's not "dominance" or "unnatural" or whatever you tell yourself to pretend this is not perfectly natural.
Read up on the life of bonobos. They are your closest animal relatives and quite the frisky sexaholics with gay sex abounding in every stray branch.
Yes, God made everything this way.
Nevertheless, even if there was any real proof of exclusive homosexual preference in animals (which you have not provided), humans are not called to act like animals. Animals greet each other by smelling each others butts, and they sometimes fling feces at each other. But God expects more of humans. Like I said, the world we see today has disorder in it, but God didn't create it that way.
Not all animals smell each other's butts, as it were, but they all have some equivalent. Not all fling feces, but we certainly do, we are trained out of it as children and then started flinging verbal feces at one another. As Antigone said, we are animals.Nevertheless, even if there was any real proof of exclusive homosexual preference in animals (which you have not provided), humans are not called to act like animals. Animals greet each other by smelling each others butts, and they sometimes fling feces at each other. But God expects more of humans. Like I said, the world we see today has disorder in it, but God didn't create it that way.
No, this is just uneducated wishful thinking. SCIENCE - you know - those people with all the letters after their names that actually study this stuff- has observed again and again, especially in social species, what is simply nothing else than same-sex attraction and behavior, and in a natural environment. It's not "dominance" or "unnatural" or whatever you tell yourself to pretend this is not perfectly natural.
Read up on the life of bonobos. They are your closest animal relatives and quite the frisky sexaholics with gay sex abounding in every stray branch.
Yes, God made everything this way.
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
God did not create homosexuality or any sinful inclinations. Our disordered passions are a result of the Fall. Do you agree with the teaching of the Catholic Church that homosexual attraction is an intrinsically disordered passion?
So God didn't create Creation? Or He only created part of it?God did not create homosexuality ...
or any sinful inclinations.
You forgot to add that the act itself is GRAVE.
God did not create homosexuality or any sinful inclinations. Our disordered passions are a result of the Fall. Do you agree with the teaching of the Catholic Church that homosexual attraction is an intrinsically disordered passion?
God never said "let there be sin" when he created the world. And actually, sin isn't a creation. Sin is an absence of a good virtue. For example, sexual sin is the absence of the virtue of chastity.So God didn't create Creation? Or He only created part of it?
So which is it? First you compare people to animals by claiming there is no such thing as homosexuality in animals and therefore not in humans, then, when confronted with evidence, you say it doesn't matter since God doesn't 'call us to act like animals'.
Guess what, Baby? We are animals.
God never said "let there be sin" when he created the world. And actually, sin isn't a creation. Sin is an absence of a good virtue. For example, sexual sin is the absence of the virtue of chastity.
You really always do like reminding everyone about the ACT, don't you? You can hardly go three posts without thinking about it, writing about it, drawing attention to it. I think they have pics online of it, maybe you can go find a few and post them with a big sign that says "DON'T DO THIS" - after you look at enough of them to find exactly the right ones to convey the true depravity that so fascinates you.
Who's the disordered one, again?
2 Peter 1:4
His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence, by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, that through these you may escape from the corruption that is in the world because of passion, and become partakers of the divine nature.
You forgot to add that the act itself is GRAVE.
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