So Triggered

[Lady Bug]

I had a bad religion argument with my dad over Islam, it lasted only 5 minutes then we calmed down but it was painful. I hate the way I talked about my own mom, I chastised her bitterly (not to her face) for accepting Islam when she got married to my dad and my dad said how she did the right thing and that is why I uttered a stream of profanities and called my mom names. Not to her face though, but I hate what these religion arguments do to me - they tarnish my heart, they turn me into a mean person against my parents, turn me into a person who uses detestable swear words, they make me suicidal, you name it...I will try to calm down now but I wouldn't wish this crap on anyone. This stuff makes me want to eat so much too.

 

[emilie mayer]

We have all been there. What you need to do is ask God for forgiveness for getting upset,using bad words. God is faithful and just to forgive us when we confess our sin. Next time the topic comes up just walk away. Pray for your parents thats all you can do. Give it to God

 

[RuthD]

Praying that you feel better soon. Forgive yourself, you are human. I've used bad words too in arguments but am trying not to any more. Sometimes people can really upset us to no end. Forgive yourself for Jesus understands.

 

[Jeshu]

The best is to hand this all over to Jesus, all your frustrations, your anger and your weaknesses with regard to this.

Keep giving it - until you calm down and taste His peace.

Jesus will forgive you and help you in your battles with the Islam, know that He is King of kings and Lord of lords it really helps to understand that.

 

[Philothei]

hugs and prayers friend
It is a hard spot to be at for sure

That too will pass just think that life will give you opportunity to make up for what you felt that you were doing wrong. We all get out of line sometimes please know that you are valuable to your family and to God and He is there for you with open arms !

 

[Krissy Cakes]

Praying for you.

 

[ahava777]

I had a bad religion argument with my dad over Islam, it lasted only 5 minutes then we calmed down but it was painful. I hate the way I talked about my own mom, I chastised her bitterly (not to her face) for accepting Islam when she got married to my dad and my dad said how she did the right thing and that is why I uttered a stream of profanities and called my mom names. Not to her face though, but I hate what these religion arguments do to me - they tarnish my heart, they turn me into a mean person against my parents, turn me into a person who uses detestable swear words, they make me suicidal, you name it...I will try to calm down now but I wouldn't wish this crap on anyone. This stuff makes me want to eat so much too.

Hello my dear, having religious arguments are really terrible. Imagine, the Word of God is a sword (of the Holy Spirit), right? It cuts right through our souls and it's so painful. It's good to not get involved in them. I heard a lot of apologists say that they DON'T enjoy defending their faith because telling the truth is after all, offensive to most people. So we should really expect that conflicts would emerge.

I pray that the Lord will lead you to greater wisdom and knowledge on how to deal with your parents. But I do pray more that you would remember who the REAL ENEMY is. The Lord hates sin, but loves the sinner, and we are called to do the same. No matter how embittered we would feel after a terrible argument, we need to remember, what/who are we really up against? What is our goal in having those arguments? Is it within our power? If it is, is it the right time? All of those things will be clear in God's perfect timing. We can rest in the fact that it is His desire that no one would perish. As a Christian, our job is to keep praying for those who do not believe, with expectant hope that He hears our hearts. At the end of the day, what's important is we remember who we are in Christ. We tend to forget this when things are tough. Hold on to your identity in Christ. No one can take it away from you. Remember that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus.

 

[Noxot]

if it is not fruits of the Holy Spirit then you don't need it. consider what kind of fruits are coming from the things that happen. what is giving birth to the arguments? what is the root cause of all of the problems that are happening?

 

[Lady Bug]

if it is not fruits of the Holy Spirit then you don't need it. consider what kind of fruits are coming from the things that happen. what is giving birth to the arguments? what is the root cause of all of the problems that are happening?

well he doesn't like that I'm a Christian. I started wanting to be Christian when I was in my early 20s and it caused a lot of fights in the house. My mom used to be a Christian but not anymore. She became a Muslim when she got married to my Muslim dad but I never liked the notion of being a Muslim, I preferred the Christian faith but they wouldn't have any of it.

Deep down my dad blames Christianity for "taking away his daughter."

 

[Noxot]

why are you a christian and not a muslim?

 

[Lady Bug]

why should that matter? this is a Christian site, not a Muslim site.

 

[Noxot]

why should that matter? this is a Christian site, not a Muslim site.

why should it matter... hmm good question. I don't get what you mean by "this is a Christian site, not a Muslim site." what does that have to do with anything? what do you mean by that reasoning because I don't know what you are trying to say by it.

I wonder if your dad thinks it matters why you are a christian and not a muslim? now I would guess you have a strong reason why you have chosen what you have chosen and why you are not what you are not. do you think it matters to Jesus why you have chosen to be a christian and not a muslim?

I don't know the mindsets of muslims at all so i will use christian examples of different motivations or parts of motivations of why someone might have chosen to be a christan and not to be a muslim and how those driving reasons might affect what someone is on the inside which is super important:

i'm a christian because I was raised to be christian.

i'm a christian because I love Christ and what he teaches me to do and be.

i'm a christian because if I don't do what i am told i'm going to burn in hell for all eternity.

i'm a christian because it seems and feels right and i'm not a muslim because it seems to contradict what being a christian is.

i'm a christian because there were other good Christians in my life that made me think "hey they are loving, I shall be like they are"

i'm a christian because it seems to often offer woman more freedom in various things while being a muslim puts more restrictions on certain things.

i'm not a muslim and one reason that is is because when i heard and listened to the words of Jesus they rang so true to my heart, my heart was burning with something that i can not quite understand and when i read and learn about the muslim religion I just don't get that same feeling and so there is no way i would pick something cold over something hot when i so desire that hot and do not desire that cold.

people won't like me if I am not a christian, therefore I am a christian.

I won't know who i am anymore if I change what i am and I do not like not knowing what i am.

i'm a christian so that my father will not constantly be upset with me and now that i changed my religion from muslim to christian i feel accepted by my father and we fight and argue less.

i'm a christian because everyone around me is a muslim.



I honestly don't get at all why a father would want his daughter to be something unless the father thought it was either bad for him or his daughter. maybe he is one of those types that will not change no matter what you say or reason and so maybe there is no point at all to even discussing such things with him. there are so many different reasons why you and your dad could be arguing. i just want you and your dad to be able to come to some kind of better state but it truly does take God for good to happen and God freely gives to whoever wants so as long as you are receptive to Gods light you shall indeed be walking in the light. so no matter what happens, as long as you have God inside of you, everything will be okay even if they look bad at times.

humanity is so complex and confusing >.<

 

[turkle]

why should it matter... hmm good question. I don't get what you mean by "this is a Christian site, not a Muslim site." what does that have to do with anything? what do you mean by that reasoning because I don't know what you are trying to say by it.

I wonder if your dad thinks it matters why you are a christian and not a muslim? now I would guess you have a strong reason why you have chosen what you have chosen and why you are not what you are not. do you think it matters to Jesus why you have chosen to be a christian and not a muslim?

I don't know the mindsets of muslims at all so i will use christian examples of different motivations or parts of motivations of why someone might have chosen to be a christan and not to be a muslim and how those driving reasons might affect what someone is on the inside which is super important:

i'm a christian because I was raised to be christian.

i'm a christian because I love Christ and what he teaches me to do and be.

i'm a christian because if I don't do what i am told i'm going to burn in hell for all eternity.

i'm a christian because it seems and feels right and i'm not a muslim because it seems to contradict what being a christian is.

i'm a christian because there were other good Christians in my life that made me think "hey they are loving, I shall be like they are"

i'm a christian because it seems to often offer woman more freedom in various things while being a muslim puts more restrictions on certain things.

i'm not a muslim and one reason that is is because when i heard and listened to the words of Jesus they rang so true to my heart, my heart was burning with something that i can not quite understand and when i read and learn about the muslim religion I just don't get that same feeling and so there is no way i would pick something cold over something hot when i so desire that hot and do not desire that cold.

people won't like me if I am not a christian, therefore I am a christian.

I won't know who i am anymore if I change what i am and I do not like not knowing what i am.

i'm a christian so that my father will not constantly be upset with me and now that i changed my religion from muslim to christian i feel accepted by my father and we fight and argue less.

i'm a christian because everyone around me is a muslim.



I honestly don't get at all why a father would want his daughter to be something unless the father thought it was either bad for him or his daughter. maybe he is one of those types that will not change no matter what you say or reason and so maybe there is no point at all to even discussing such things with him. there are so many different reasons why you and your dad could be arguing. i just want you and your dad to be able to come to some kind of better state but it truly does take God for good to happen and God freely gives to whoever wants so as long as you are receptive to Gods light you shall indeed be walking in the light. so no matter what happens, as long as you have God inside of you, everything will be okay even if they look bad at times.

humanity is so complex and confusing >.<

Noxot, I know your heart is in the right place and I applaud that. And the self-centered reasons you listed can certainly be part of the motivation to be a Christian, but the most important, very central reason to be a Christian is not on your list: God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son so that whoever believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. With that is the motivation to serve God out of gratitude, and to serve others.

I am sure that your father believes with all his heart that you are doing the wrong thing, LB. He is trying his best to save you the best way he knows how. But you have given your heart and life to the Lord, so it is important that you communicate that to your father not with an argumentative spirit, but in love. Fighting accomplishes nothing, other than giving your father more ammunition to use against you. Instead, let your father see Jesus in you by the fruits of the spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. When he sees Jesus in your attitude and life, he will start to understand. But as long as you scream profanities to him, he wins.

Your dad may never see your point of view, and you need to accept that. But the best witness you can give him is to take on the attitude of love that the Lord gives us, and care for him and honor him as we are commanded.
There's nothing easy about that (I have lots of personal experience), but ultimately it is the most rewarding, because by honoring your dad and reflecting Jesus, you honor the Lord and bring Him glory.

The choice is yours, and I pray that you will choose wisely.

 

[Lady Bug]

I don't like Islam because I believe Muhammad was a false prophet and the religion explicitly denies in plain words that Jesus was not the Son of God, He was not crucified, and was not resurrected. The religion teaches that the Bible is corrupted, that He is not the Savior of the world or the Messiah/Prophet as predicted in Deuteronomy and Isaiah, for example. I'm sure I could think of more reasons, well, there are, but first off, it's these reasons that I don't want to undertake Islam.

 

[rturner76]

Lady Bug-

Your reasons for being a Christian are your own and you do not have to justify yourself to anybody. I think you are here because this situation makes you depressed and you are seeking assistance with that depression. I too suffer from depression. I have different triggers but the result is still the same. Sadness and feelings of not being content in your situation. Here are some things I have done that have helped me cope with my depression....

I went to my doctor and spoke with him about my feelings and he set me up with a therapist and a Psychiatrist. Once I had those, I got involved with a group that was set up by my local clinic for people that have depression where I could talk to others about my feelings. Also, these people helped me get started on an exercise program to help relieve my stress and it helps release endorphin in your brain that can help you feel better. The doctors also put me on some medication that helped with my depression but I don't want to act like I know if that is something you need. It was something I needed. Now I am not trying to tell you what to do, only what has helped me, and give you some things to think about. I also joined a group at church where I learn about the church and we meet once a week and talk about the church and sit together on Sundays. It helped me feel connected to other Christians more than just seeing each other once a week and saying goodbye until next week. My church set me up with a sponsor I can talk to about things if I need to. I don't talk to him that much but it's nice to know he is there. Becoming more active in your church will strengthen your relationship with Christ and give you peace when the arguments come up. You can "Be still and know that I am God"

I hope this is of some help and I will be praying for you and your family.

 

[jimbattle]

Don't get angry. Just calmly speak the word of God on the subject and explain what it means and let God take over from there.

 

[Noxot]

I don't like Islam because I believe Muhammad was a false prophet and the religion explicitly denies in plain words that Jesus was not the Son of God, He was not crucified, and was not resurrected. The religion teaches that the Bible is corrupted, that He is not the Savior of the world or the Messiah/Prophet as predicted in Deuteronomy and Isaiah, for example. I'm sure I could think of more reasons, well, there are, but first off, it's these reasons that I don't want to undertake Islam.

certainly if one book is saying one thing and another claims it is not true then it has to be one or the other. well i don't even know what the two of you could even argue about, you believe the bible and he believes his bible. like everyone keeps saying I do suppose this comes down to who you are... rather than what kind of information you believe, for information and believing it is true is not a very solid foundation ( information is more like the house, the solid thing we need is the rock who is Christ who never leaves us and constantly leads us into all truth )

I think a main problem with the muslim religion vs christian religion is that they are sometimes so frighteningly familiar to each other in how the believers perceive God to be, certainly not one you could call father and love him for it, more like one you call master as you cower and call him merciful for not destroying you as the demons so expect God to do to them. so in part it is our fault, the Christians, for falling short of that great height we are called to ( that height being the life Jesus desires of us when he said "follow me" ).

when we fail, what can the muslim do if we so believe that we have the truth and they are deceived? certainly it becomes greatly important to us to be the best light we can be for them. it often is more of living in love rather than proving our point of what we believe. the Holy Spirit transcends mere beliefs with a foundation of truth that is more solid than what we can perceive with our fleshly eyes and our cold souls. if we can practice being humble it will be a great help with anger. passionately defending what you believe can be such a nuisance at times ( and other times it becomes a life saver ), especially when we so deeply believe what we believe, and that it is right and good and morally correct. but we get plenty of chances I suppose. God makes us perfect, everything we go through is spiritual growth for us. he never fails to teach us and help us. transformation in and by God is the nuclear bomb that wins the wars of religion.

thanks for sharing part of your walk with God with us, I certainly see a christian walking with God through trials and tribulations in you. you can do it, because Christ will get you through it.