So they are burning churches now?

[chevyontheriver]

Florida man lights Catholic Church on fire with parishioners inside

A definite arson in Ocala FL. Motive is not yet known. The arsonist has been apprehended.

Mission founded by St. Junípero Serra burns in overnight fire

In California Mission San Gabriel burns. It isn't safe for fire investigators yet to enter the ruins to investigate. So it's possible that it was not arson. But we'll see. This is one of the churches founded by Junipero Serra, whose statues are defaced, toppled, and destroyed with increasing frequency.

 

[Gnarwhal]

Florida man lights Catholic Church on fire with parishioners inside

A definite arson in Ocala FL. Motive is not yet known. The arsonist has been apprehended.

Mission founded by St. Junípero Serra burns in overnight fire

In California Mission San Gabriel burns. It isn't safe for fire investigators yet to enter the ruins to investigate. So it's possible that it was not arson. But we'll see. This is one of the churches founded by Junipero Serra, whose statues are defaced, topples, and destroyed with increasing frequency.

Yep, just like they said they would. I'm still waiting to see what they say about the Florida incident, some are saying he's just a crazy guy. But the fact that Saint Serra founded the Mission makes it pretty obvious that it's burning was an organized and intentional act, likely perpetrated by BLM guerrilla terrorists. For that I hope retribution is swift, righteous, and without mercy.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Yep, just like they said they would. I'm still waiting to see what they say about the Florida incident, some are saying he's just a crazy guy. But the fact that Saint Serra founded the Mission makes it pretty obvious that it's burning was an organized and intentional act, likely perpetrated by BLM guerrilla terrorists. For that I hope retribution is swift, righteous, and without mercy.

Retribution is up to God. The civil authorities now have to pursue justice or show themselves as just an adjunct to the mobs.

 

[A_Thinker]

Florida man lights Catholic Church on fire with parishioners inside

A definite arson in Ocala FL. Motive is not yet known. The arsonist has been apprehended.

Mission founded by St. Junípero Serra burns in overnight fire

In California Mission San Gabriel burns. It isn't safe for fire investigators yet to enter the ruins to investigate. So it's possible that it was not arson. But we'll see. This is one of the churches founded by Junipero Serra, whose statues are defaced, toppled, and destroyed with increasing frequency.

Sounds like you may be jumping to conclusions.

Why not wait for the facts to be discovered ?

 

[Michie]

Archbishop Gomez Asks For Prayers After Fire at Mission Founded by St. Junípero Serra

Local firefighters said they responded to an initial alarm at 4:24 a.m. and by the time they arrived, smoke and flames were visible from outside the church with more than 50 firefighters needed to bring the flames under control.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Yep, just like they said they would.

They have attacked and defaced numerous churches and synagogues already all over the place.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Sounds like you may be jumping to conclusions.

Why not wait for the facts to be discovered ?

The Ocala FL case is an arson. The perp has been apprehended. Motive is not apparent yet. But the conclusion of deliberate arson is not 'jumping' to any conclusion.

As far as the San Gabriel Mission fire I did note that there is no conclusion yet as to arson or something else as the building isn't safe enough yet for inspectors to enter.

I think you jumped to a conclusion about my jumping to a conclusion.

 

[Hank77]

I see that they did catch him.

 

[Gnarwhal]

Retribution is up to God.

Then let us arrange the meeting.

They have attacked and defaced numerous churches and synagogues already all over the place.

Indeed they have. They are instruments of the diabolical, this is merely a phase in a larger plan that wants to evict Christendom from every nook and cranny of the Earth to advance it's intention of world governance.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I hope the authorities catch them but I'm not going to assume who "they" are. The Mission is a perfect cover for any arsonist individual or any group who wants to cause mayhem.

Maybe it will become clear who 'they' are. Or maybe the California fire was accidental. I do consider it suspicious though.

 

[A_Thinker]

The Ocala FL case is an arson. The perp has been apprehended. Motive is not apparent yet. But the conclusion of deliberate arson is not 'jumping' to any conclusion.

So ... you've presumed a connection between that perp ... and the "they" that you refer to in your OP title ?

 

[Michie]

 

[chevyontheriver]

So ... you've presumed a connection between that perp ... and the "they" that you refer to in your OP title ?

Who did I identify as 'they'? It might be antifa. It might be nobody in particular. For now we have one definite arson and one suspicious fire overnight.

 

[Hank77]

Maybe it will become clear who 'they' are. Or maybe the California fire was accidental. I do consider it suspicious though.

I edited my post because I didn't realize they had actually caught the man who did it in FL.
Wasn't it Native American people who were protesting against honoring the Catholic priest who founded the Mission in CA?

 

[chevyontheriver]

I edited my post because I didn't realize they had actually caught the man who did it in FL.

A suspect has been apprehended. No motive is yet known. Maybe later.

Wasn't it Native American people who were protesting against honoring the Catholic priest who founded the Mission in CA?

I'm not sure who all actually is dissing Junipero Serra and has defaced or destroyed statues of him. There are many statues toppled and I don't know who all have taken responsibility. Anyone who knows anything about Junipero Serra would find it odd.

Stay tuned for anything about the cause of the fire, and if anyone is either apprehended or takes responsibility for the fire.

 

[thecolorsblend]

Why not wait for the facts to be discovered ?

This is usually a sensible policy.

However, considering how often the "news" media bury relevant facts or even sometimes entire stories, I don't see the harm in stating the obvious here in this thread. Specifically, that this was likely an anti-religious hate crime perpetrated by BLM and antifa terrorists.

Nobody has explained to me why Catholics shouldn't defend their buildings and statues from attack by hostile parties.

 

[A_Thinker]

This is usually a sensible policy.

However, considering how often the "news" media bury relevant facts or even sometimes entire stories, I don't see the harm in stating the obvious here in this thread. Specifically, that this was likely an anti-religious hate crime perpetrated by BLM and antifa terrorists.

Waiting for the facts ... can save one from having to apologize for being presumptive later ...

 

[thecolorsblend]

Waiting for the facts ... can save one from having to apologize for being presumptive later ...

Okay, so let’s try this again.

I don’t trust the media to ever deliver the straight forward facts in an honest way.

 

[Michie]

OCALA, Florida — A man accused of setting a Florida church on fire was being held without bail Sunday on charges that include attempted second-degree murder and arson.

The Marion County Sheriff’s Office charged Steven Shields, 23, on Saturday, hours after detectives say he plowed a minivan through the front door of Queen of Peace Catholic Church in Ocala, doused the foyer with gasoline and set it on fire, causing extensive damage.

Several people were inside preparing for Mass when the attack occurred early Saturday, but no one was hurt.


According to court documents, Shields told detectives he is mentally ill but had stopped taking his medication, the Ocala Star-Banner reported.

Shields told detectives what he did was “awesome,” and he smiled and laughed, the affidavit said. He told detectives he was “on a mission,” called himself “king” and that he has problems with the Catholic Church and referenced passages in the Bible’s Book of Revelations.

Services were being held Sunday in another part of the church.

The Marion County Public Defender’s Office was closed Sunday and not accepting phone messages.

Man charged in arson attack on Catholic Church in Florida

 

[thecolorsblend]

OCALA, Florida — A man accused of setting a Florida church on fire was being held without bail Sunday on charges that include attempted second-degree murder and arson.

The Marion County Sheriff’s Office charged Steven Shields, 23, on Saturday, hours after detectives say he plowed a minivan through the front door of Queen of Peace Catholic Church in Ocala, doused the foyer with gasoline and set it on fire, causing extensive damage.

Several people were inside preparing for Mass when the attack occurred early Saturday, but no one was hurt.


According to court documents, Shields told detectives he is mentally ill but had stopped taking his medication, the Ocala Star-Banner reported.

Shields told detectives what he did was “awesome,” and he smiled and laughed, the affidavit said. He told detectives he was “on a mission,” called himself “king” and that he has problems with the Catholic Church and referenced passages in the Bible’s Book of Revelations.

Services were being held Sunday in another part of the church.

The Marion County Public Defender’s Office was closed Sunday and not accepting phone messages.

Man charged in arson attack on Catholic Church in Florida

The facts seem to be that this was an act of arson done while the perp knew people were inside the building.

We got any legal beagles in the thread? Charges of arson seem obvious but is there something here too about attempted homicide or something?